Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 Namaste, Sri Ranjeet and Others, In the Prakarana Grandha “Sarva Vedanta Siddhantha Sara Sangraham” authored by Adi Shankara, (verses 810 to 818) the following appear as Gnana Sadhana, the means for Gnana: (Commentary on Malayalam by Swami Agamananda, of R.K. Ashramam, Kaladi) ---Sravanat mananat dhaynat, talparyena nirantaram budhe; sookshmatwam ayaati, thato vastu upalabhate-- Concentrating on Brahman, if one practices continuous Sravana, Manana and Dhyana, his intellect slowly becomes one-pointed and in due course it will lead to Brahma anubhooti. --Manda prajgnavatam tasmat, karaneeyam puna: puna: sravanam mananm dhyanam, samyag vastu upalabdhaye-- Those who are dull for Brahmagnana, i.e. self-knowledge, must do sravana, manana and dhyana continuously again and again. --Sarva Vedanta vakyaanaam, shadbhi: lingai: sat adwaye, pare brahmani talparya, nischayam sravanam vidu-- Through the six lingas, six means, for analyzing veda vakyas, all Vedanta vakyas have the purpose to establish the one-without-second-Brahman, and hearing this is called Sravanam. --Srutasai va adviteeyasai, vastun: pratyag atmana: vedanta vakya anuguna, yuktibhi: tu anuchintanam Mananam tat shurta arthasya,sakshatkarana kaaranam-- Analyzing through proper logic (yukti) the already heard Vedanta vakyas, leads to conviction of the meaning of the Truth as one-without-a-second which is shining as the Self of everything. --Vijatheeya shareeradi, pratyaya tyaga poorvakam, sajatheeya atmavrutheenam, pravaha karanam yadha thailadhaaravad achhinna vruthyaa tat dhyanam ishyate-- Negating the thoughts of body, etc. which have different swabhava as compared to Atma, and the mind and intellect concentrating on thoughts on Atma, like flowing of oil without any breaks, is called Dhyanam or meditation. --tavatkalam prayatnena, kartavyam sravanam sada pramana samshaya: yavad, swa budhe: na nivartate-- Till the time one’s intellect is free from doubt, one should again and again and always do Sravanam, i.e. hearing. -Atma yaadharthya nishitai kartavyam manam muhu: Vipareetha atma dhee: yavad na vinashyati chetasi Tavat nirantharam dhyanam kartavyam moksham icchata- Till the time there is doubt about the Knowledge that jeeva is Brahman, through Sruti, i.e. Upanishad vakyas and proper yukti, i.e. logic, to get conviction about the Truth of Atma, Mananam should continue. Till there is total freedom from ignorance of Atmani anatmabudhi and Anatmani atma budhi, (i.e. mithyagnanam due to mutual superimposition of atma’s swaroopa in anatma and anatma’s swabhava in atma), who desire moksha should continue to do meditation. -yavad na tarkena niraasitaa api, drushya prapancha: tu aparoksha bodhat, vileeyate tavad amushyabhiksho: dhyanadi samyag karanayeem eva- Though through logic, reasoning, one is able to negate the world, i.e. prapancham which is seen and experienced, till one is able to totally negate that knowledge rather notion through conviction of the meaning of Brahman, that one, who is after Moksha, should continue Sravanam, Mananam and Dhyaanam in the proper manner. There are many verses appear in Aparoksha Anubhooti, again authored by Adi Shankara, on Sadhana. I quote some of the relevant verses only: (Commentary by Swami Vimuktananda, Advaita Ashrama) 121-Vishayeshu atmatam drushtwa manasa: cha it manjanam, pratyahara: sa vigneya: abhysaneeya: mumukshubhi- The absorption of the mind in the supreme Consciousness by realizing Atma in all objects is known as Prayahara (withdrawal of the mind), which should be practiced by the seekers after liberation. 123-Brahma eva asmi iti sad vruthya niraalambataya sthithi: dhyana shabedena vikhyata paramaananda dayenee- Remaining independent, rather indifferent, of everything as a result of the unassailable thought “I am verily Brahman” is well known by the word Dhyana (meditation) and it is productive of parama ananda, the greatest happiness. 124-Nirvikarataya vrutthaya bramha akaarataya puna: vruthi vismaranam samyak gnana samgnaka:- The complete forgetfulness of all thoughts by first making it changeless and then identifying it with Braham is called Samadhi, also known as Knowledge. 125-Imam cha akrutim Anandam tavat sadhu samabhyaset, vashya: yavad kshanaat pumsa: pratyukta: san bhavet swayam- The aspirant should carefully practice the meditation that reveals his natural bliss until, being under his full control, it arises spontaneously, in an instant when called into action. 126-Tata: Sadhana nirmukta: sidha: bhavati yogirat tat swaroopam na etatasya vishaya: manasa: giraam- Then, he the best among Yogis having attained to perfection, becomes free from all “practices” The real nature of such a man never becomes an object of mind or speech. 127-128-Samadhou kriyamane tu vighnani ayanti balat, anusandhana raahathyam aalasyam bhogalalasam, laya: tama: cha vikshepa: rasa aaswada: cha shuunyataa, evam yad vighna baahulyam tyajyam brahmavida shanai:- While practicing Samadhi, meditation, there appear unavoidablymany obstacles, such as lack of inquiry, idleness, desire for sense pleasure, sleep, dullness, distraction, tasting of joy, the sense of blankness. One desiring knowledge should slowly get rid of such innumerable obstacles. Again Verse 17 of “Laghu Vakya Vruthi” (published by Advaita Ashrama) yet another P.G. by Adi Shankara, he says: --Tat chintanam tat kadhanam tat parasparabodhanam etat eka paratwam cha bramha abhyaasam vidu: budha:-- Meditating upon That, talking about That, enlightening mutually about That, and in a way getting oneself absorbed in That, all these have been known and taught by the wise one as CONSTITUTING THE PRACTICE OF BRAHMAN. The nature and practice is described here in this verse as “Meditating upon That”. To meditate upon It, i.e. Brahman, to speak on the same (in the light of the teachings of Vedanta), to enlighten one another on the same in accordance with the teachings of Vedanta, to cherish the idea of one’s own identity with pure Consciousness as the Supreme End in view – as it is said in the scriptures also thus “Know Him alone, the unique Atman and discard all other vain talks, this is the Bridge of Immortality” (Mu.Up.2.25) – all these have been mentioned by the teachers as CONSTITUTING THE PRACTICE OF BRAHAMAN. Kindly excuse me for my incompetence in transliteration of the Sanskrit verses. Hari Om Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Dear Maniji, Namaste. The verses you had quoted from aparokshAnubhUti (verse 121-onwards)is the subject of much controversy in the advaitic circles. It is very much accepted by everyone that verses till 101(or 102..Sorry I forgot the right verse) is definitely from achArya's pen. However the rest of the verses which teaches us more of 'yoga' is still under the cloud of mystery to all seekers of the true teachings. Shri Panoli's "Adi sha~Nkara's vision of Reality" or his Malayalam book titled "ariyappedAtha Adisha~Nkaran" touches this issue. I am sorry for the digression. Hari Om --- "R.S.MANI" <r_s_mani wrote: > There are many verses appear in Aparoksha Anubhooti, > again authored by Adi Shankara, on Sadhana. I quote > some of the relevant verses only: (Commentary by > Swami Vimuktananda, Advaita Ashrama) _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Ranjeet-ji! You write ... ( The verses you had quoted from aparokshAnubhUti (verse 121-onwards)is the subject of much controversy in the advaitic circles. It is very much accepted by everyone that verses till 101(or 102..Sorry I forgot the right verse) is definitely from achArya's pen. However the rest of the verses which teaches us more of 'yoga' is still under the cloud of mystery to all seekers of the true teachings.) with all due respects, does it really matter - who authors what ? as long as it contains GEMS OF WISDOM... i have heard it said that adi _sankara was not the author of Saundarya Lahari. it is also said that the Baja govindam stotra , although originally started by Sankara, was completed by his disciples. Stigi ( where are you, dear one? i miss your scholarly posts) also hinted that the Viveka chudamani may not have been authored by Sankaea as per some western scholars. I have also seen doubts being raised as to the authorship of Dakshna murthi stotra? then our beloved Bhaskar-ji said about five Sankaras besides the Original one!! My point is "knowledge comes from all sides." and whoever wrote or completed these works are obviously men of knowledge and wisdom? When i look at a 'flower' do i wonder which Garden it comes from? i simply enjoy the beauty and the fragrance of the Flower!!! so, the only source we should all wonder and marvel at is the Original source from which we all come - be it Sankara , you me or anyone else!!! love and regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Note from List Moderators: While replying, please do not include the tails of the previous messages. Paste the part of message that is most relevant. Welcome to the list and feel free to post your insights without hesitation. Other members who continue to include all the tail ends with their messages are also requested not include unnecessary tails. Thanks for your cooperation and understanding. (In this message, the tail is cut to the necessary minimum) ============================================== "RS" Dear all namaskar first time I am writing to the group without any useful contribution But actually it matters a lot who is authoring what I mean we all are generally ignorant ..truth is hidden from us at that time we follow what our GURU says we may not understand many thing but follow it blindly believing in the GURU We follow various rites and rituals mentioned in Vedas ,,many we don't understand but we follow Ofcourse good words don't loose property whoever speaks so but it so happens we are often trapped in flowery and attractive language of bad literature this happens because of our contaminated mind sets so it is essential to know the source of literature especially for us we have such a level of faith that many time faith not knowledge leads to salvation I may offend many ,sorry for that truly yours devashish joyguru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Dear Ranjeet, I am not aware of any controversy amongst Advaitic circles with regard to the authorship of any texts or portions of tests, particularly by Sri Adi Shankara. However, personally, I think giving thought to such controversies, can be a serious obstacle in reaching the goal. Advaita is supposed to swallow all controversies. A person is worshipped not as a person, but for what he has done to the humanity. I have not read the book of Sri Panoli on Adi Shankara about which you mentioned. I shall try to get a copy when I visit Kerala next time. I have seen some references about Yoga in the Upanishads, Shankara Bhashya etc. which I mention below : My very poor transliteration may be excused. Katha Upanishad: “Yada panchavathishtanthe gnani manasa saha Budhincha na vicheshtathi tamahuhu paramamgatim Tam yogim iti manyante sthiramindriya dharanam” The seers call that the highest state, wherein the five senses of knowledge rest together with the mind and the intellect too does not function. They consider firm restraint of the senses as Yoga. Adi Shankaracharya on Meditation etc: “Upaasanam nama samanapratyayapravahakaranam” Upasana or meditation consists in making a current of similar ideas to flow continuously. “Upasanam cha yathaashastram tulyapratyayasantati: asamkeernam cha atatpratyaihi sastrokta alambanavishayaa cha,” By Upasana is meant continuous flow of similar ideas as prescribed by sastras unmixed with any dissimilar ideas. The prop for the mind is the object as described by sastras. “Upasanam nama yathaa sastram upasyaarthasya vishayeekaranena sameepyam upagamya, tailadharavat samaana pratyaya pravehana deerghakalam yadaasanam” Upasana, meditation consists in approaching the object of worship as instructed by the sastras by visualizing it dwelling on it for a long time steadily in a current of the same idea, like a flowing thread of oil. “Upasanam nidhidhyasanam cha iti antarneetavruthiguna eva kriya abhidheeyate. Loke ‘gurum upaste, rajanam upaste’ iti yaha tatparyena gurvaadeenam anuvartate, sa evam uchyate. Tatha dhyayati proshithanadha patimiti. Ya nirantatarasnaraba patim prati sotkanta sa evam adyeeyate.” Such terms as ‘meditation’ ‘being devoted to’, and ‘reflecting’ denote actions conducted within (in the mind) in which repletion is implied as a quality. Thus we say in ordinary life that a person is devoted to a teacher or a king if he follows him with a mind steadily set on him and of a wife whose husband has gone on a journey that she thinks of him, only if she steadily remembers him with great longing. In “Bhruguvalli” (Tai.Up) regarding knowledge of Brtahman it is said: “tapasa brahma vijigjnasaswa” Here ‘tapas’ is explained as follows: “manascheendriyanam cha hi akagryam paramam tapaha, tatjjyayaha sarvadharmebhyaha sa dharmaha para uchyate” The one-pointedness of the indriyas and mind is the greatest tapas. (This is nothing but meditation or Dharana) “Tapa alochana” Tapas also means analysis. “anwayavyathirekadtichinthanam va tapaha bhvet, aham brahma iti vakyarta bodhayaalam idam yataha” Lord Parameshwara in Sootha Samhita says: “koham muktihi katham, kena samsaram pratipannavan, iti anochanamarthajnaha tapa samshanti panditaha” Who am I, How to attain Lioneration, How did I come into Samsara, etc. such thinking is called as tapas knowledgeable people. - - - - - - Thank you for your response. Hari Om Ranjeet Sankar <thefinalsearch wrote:Dear Maniji, Namaste. The verses you had quoted from aparokshAnubhUti (verse 121-onwards)is the subject of much controversy in the advaitic circles. It is very much accepted by everyone advaitin/ advaitin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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