Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Nair-ji , YES! YES! an amorous man who turned a yogi in the evening of his life !! Nothing contradictory about these things ... FROM A BHOGI ONE BECOMES A YOGI -this is transcendence ! >From a small 'love' for a woman, you turn towrds a big love for the beloved of all beloveds, lord Krishna-THE SUPREME LOVER!!! Bhatruhari ( also spelled as Bhatrihari) was a versatile being ... He was a king , a poet who in his later life became a Yogi. It is believed he was King Vikramaditya's brother ... When i was in HAridwar in the Winter of 2004 , i was told by a tour guide that Raja Vikramaditya constructed A sacred Ghat in memory of his brother Bhatrihari who it is believed had come to Haridwar to meditate on the banks of the Ganga. This ghat later came to be known as Har-Ki-Pauri (also called Brahamakund). BHATRUHARI WROTE MANY WORKS He has written three Shatakas or "centuries of verses", called: 1)Shringara Shatakam, on amatory matters 2) Niti Shatakam, on polity and ethics 3) Vairagya Shatakam, on religious austerity. an oft quoted verse from Shringara shatakam goes like this ... woman talks to one man, looks at a second, and thinks of a third - Bhatrihari shows the fickleminded and amorous qualities of a woman ! in his vairaghya shatakam, Bhatruhari sings Uniquely great is Shiva among the sensuous, for he shares half the body with His beloved; among the dispassionate no one excels Him in detachment from women. Rest of the people, stunned in infatuation by Cupid's irresistible arrows tipped with serpent poison, can neither enjoy their desires nor give them up at will. to read the entire Vairaghya shatakam , go to http://skrit.bhaarat.com/Doc_Project/doc_z_misc_major_works/vairagya here is another famous verse of Bhatruhari's BE FEARLESS dhairya yasya pita, ksama ca janani santi cira gehini satyam ca suta daya ca bhagini bhrata manah samyama sajya bhumitala diso `pi vasana jnanamrtam bhojanam yasya ete kutumbinah vada sakhe bhayamkasmad yoginah "Oh my friend, if a man has a family with patience as father, forgiveness as the mother, continuous peace as his wife, truthfulness as his son, compassion as sister and mind-control as the brother, whose bed is the earth, whose clothes are the infinity of space and whose food is the nectar of knowledge, where is the cause for fear?" and a verse from Niti shatakam ... A fire can be extinguished with water; an umbrella protects one from the heat of the sun; a frenzied elephant can be tamed by a mahout's sharp iron-goad, and so can a cow and a donkey with a stick; diseases can be cured by an assortment of medicines, and the incantation of various mantras is an antidote to toxicants. The scriptures contain remedies for all, but there is none for a conceited fool. (home.earthlink.net/~tyag/NitiShatakam-Text.doc - 65k - View as html ) ********************************************************************** WELL, NAIR-JI., i still feel there is nothing inconruous about Bhatruhari, the pleasure-seeking king, becoming a yogi in the evening of his life... after all, history abounds with such examples ... King Janaka who became SAGE ASHTAVAKRA;S DISCIPLE Emperor Ashoka who turned to BUDDHISM Prince siddhartha who became GAUTAMA Buddha and then our beloved poet Kalidasa who himself wrote many works of 'amorous' nature ( malavikaagnimitram, shakuntalam, Ritusamhara etc) and also composed the devotional verse "shymala dandakam" on devi!!! Bhatruhari's renunciation is total and real.... Being a king, he was surrounded by wealth , riches and a palce full of beautiful women at his beck and call .... but , later on in his life, he realized such carnal pleasures are transcient and impermanent and from a full fledged Bhogi, he became a realized Yogi!!! that is why , Bhatruhari loudly proclaims Sensual pleasures will surely leave us sometime, even if they stay with us for a long time. Then, what difference does it make if the people discard them by their own choice? The mind is sorely afflicted if pleasures leave us of their own accord. However, if people renounce them voluntarily, such self-control gives infinite bliss. Thank you, nair-ji for giving me an opportunity to be 'controversial'? love and regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Namaste Adiji. You seem to be really well-read on Bhartrihari! Well, the information I have suggests that he wrote his philosophical works while he was still a bhOgi. That was my bafflement. In the case of Kalidasa (Courtesy: Krishnanji) and VAtmIki, wisdom started pouring out after crucial milestones in their lives. There is no documented evidence in the case of Bhartrihari that this is so. Yet, we can grant him the benefit of doubt. If I am not adding fuel to controversy, another bafflement is the case of our much-reverred Shri Nisargadatta Maharajji. I have great admiration for his enlightening teachings. He was a chain-smoker right to the end. Well, there is this explanation. You can have anything. But don't feel miserable if you don't get it. Probably, this was the case with Maharaj. Honestly, I don't know how he behaved when beedies were not immediately available. In all certainty, Maharaj would have been fine with or without beedies. But, a teacher's chain-smoking an addictive like tobacco can certainly unsettle his disciples, particularly in the context of stressing the need to control the senses. Do you have any thoughts? Do we have to dilute the emphasis on sense-control to suit modern situations? A sacrilegious thought, indeed! Yet, let us not fight shy. Let us discuss. PraNAms. Madathil Nair ________________________ advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: .....> YES! YES! an amorous man who turned a yogi in the evening of his > life !! > > Nothing contradictory about these things ... > > FROM A BHOGI ONE BECOMES A YOGI -this is transcendence ! >........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Namaste Nair-ji! As you may already know from my posts, i am a great 'lover' of poetry . Also, once i read swami vivekananda quoting a verse from Vairagya shatakam by Bhatruhari - then i made it my business to know who Bhatruhari is .... unfortunately, not much information is readily available on this great Mystic... btw, did you know that he was also a great grammarian like Panini? This is the verse Swami Vivekananda was fond of quoting from Bhatruhari's Vairaghya Shatakam Vairagya-Shatakam (31) In wealth is the fear of poverty, in knowledge the fear of ignorance, in beauty the fear of age, in fame the fear of backbiters, in success the fear of jealousy, even in body is the fear of death. Everything in this earth is fraught with fear. He alone is fearless who has given up everything. Don't think this is an ultimate vedantic thought? one of total renunciation and detatchment ? well, honestly, i do not know when Bhatruhari wrote his Vairagya Shatakam BEFORE OR AFTER enlightenment!!! I know one thing for sure! He was a RASIKA-SIDDHA just like Poet KALIDASA! In Shringaara Shatakam , The Rasika in BHATRUHARI is fully manifested ... He writes... VISHWAMITRAPARAASHAR PRABHRITYO VAATAAMBUPARANAASHANAASTEAPI STREEMUKHAPANKAJAM SULALITAM DRISHTVAIV MOHAM GATAAH| SHAALYANNAM SAGHRITAM PAYODADHIYUTAM BHUNJATI YE MAANVAASTESHAAMINDRIYANIGRAHO YADI BHAVEDVINDHYASRESAAGARAM|| (verse 26 -shringara shatakam) Even the great sages like Vishwamitra, and Parashar who lived on plain food, water and air, could not contain their urges when they saw the beautiful faces of pretty young women. It is not surprising then if an ordinary person who lives on milk and cereals falls in love with young women. Control of sense organs by an ordinary person is as surprising as a mountain floating on the sea. In verse 36, the poet says ... KAANTETYUTPALALOCHANETI VIPULA SHRONIBHARETYUTSUKAH PINOTUNGPAYODHARETI SUMUKHAANBHOJETI SUBHRURITI| DHRISTVAA MAADYATI MOHATEABHIRAMATE PRASTAUTI JAANANNAPI PRATAKSHYAASUCHI PUTRIKAAM STREEYAMAHO MOHASYA DUSHCHESHTITAM|| Learned people regard a woman as a statue of impurity. Still such learned people come to rut when they see a pretty woman. Mere sight of an amorous pretty woman causes tremendous joy to these learned people who fall instantly in love with her and appreciate her beauty. They compare her eyes with lotus, her breasts with domes and her eyebrows with the bow of Kamadeva. Nair-ji! i am not in the least surprised about these outpourings of Passion from a so called Jnani saint? do you know why? I have already mentioned in this group about Tantrik Guru Dattatreya , the avadhoota ! He created a scandal in his times when he was seen 'swimming' naked in the company of 'prostitutes' and other beautiful women! In the Srimad BHAGVATAM, Dattatreya listed 24 upagurus when KING Yadu asked this great sage who his GURU was! This upagurus were "the earth, air, ether, water, fire, the moon, the sun, dove, python, sea, moth, honeybee and apiarist, elephant, deer, fish, *prostitute Pingala,* osprey, infant, maid, arrow smith, serpent, spider, insect, and wasp. " Sage Dattatreya tells this story of Pingala the prostitute and her search for a paramour "In the city of Mithila, there once was a prostitute, Pingala, who spent her days beautifying herself for the night. As the sun dipped down, the dusk whisked in and the night fell, the night walker ventured out to sell her services to the ogling paramours and dandies. As men walked the streets, no one came to use her services. She greeted, accosted and displayed her assets discreetly. She was waiting for a wealthy man (a sugardaddy) to come along and make her waiting and loitering worthwhile. She waited all night with no client in sight; she lost her sleep; she was tired and hungry; she did not make any money. She began to ruminate on her life. She was disgusted with her lifestyle. The pain she felt came down like a sword cutting asunder the attachment to material things. There were beginning signs of dispassion. She broke into a song which essentially said the following: "I am an ignorant fool. My pain springs from an unrestrained mind. I have been a fool thinking that happiness comes from my clients. I have been a fool while I ignored the immortal Self that lives in my heart, ready to give me happiness. The precious Self gives me true and eternal wealth. These base lechers bring me only pain and suffering, fears and phobia and fatuous passion. This prostitution did not bring me health, wealth or happiness. Selling my body to the amorists did not improve my lot. His body has nine gates constantly discharging waste. It has skin and bones and hair and nails and exudes foul smell. Who would consider it precious other than me? I expected Bliss from my prostitution not knowing that Self is the only Bliss. I surrender myself to the Great Self and live in Bliss in the company of the Supreme. Time is a greater devourer of men and gods. Can any woman depend on men and gods to pay off the inexorable Time? Paramatman smiled on me; in an instant, my despair vanished; my heart is detached from all that the world has to offer me. This unhappiness is a blessing in disguise and enables me to trounce my expectations and gain inner peace. With love and devotion, I accept this gift of Paramatman (the Supreme Self), shun worldly things and drop my pursuit of the ephemeral. My faith rests in the Supreme; I will lead a life of contentment with the Self as my soul guide. I will consider the Lord, who is my own Self, as my husband from now on and enjoy his company. Only the Supreme can save us when we are down and out, our senses lost their direction and Serpent Time engulfs us. When we see Time devouring everything in its path, we begin to realize what this world is made of; we renounce it knowing that the Supreme is the only savior." Pingla, walking the streets in such thoughts, knew what she wanted out of her remaining life, gave up her worldly hopes and expectations, and returned home. She rose above the expectations of the world and its people which caused her untold misery, let them go and retreated in peace. " http://www.bhagavadgitausa.com/AVADHUTA.HTM - 33k - Cached TO ME, it appears that Poet-philosophers like Bhatruhari are the real non-dualists who have transcended duality - "they are in the world but not of the world" In VAIRAGHYA SHATAKAM, bHATRUHARI SAYS 15)BHOGA MEGHA VITANA MADHYA VILASATSAUDAMINI CHANCHALA AYURVAYUVI GHATTITABJA PATA LILINAMBUVANGURAM| LILA YAUVAN LALASASTANUBHRITA MITYA KALAYYA DRUTAM YOGE DHAIRYA SAMADHI SIDDHI SULABHE BUDDHI VI DADHVAM BUDHAHA|| O, intelligent people amongst. The clouds of pleasure of humans lightening is going to strike i.e. pleasures shall soon cease to exist. Our life is transitory and momentary just as a drop of water over the lotuses. The passions created out of youthhood are also unstable. Realizing this engage in meditation and contemplation and attainment of super natural powers so that one can make the mind stable and calm. One should also contemplate on the supreme cosmic soul. PLEASE VISIT-Bhatruhar's shatakams http://urday.com/shringar.htm [with meaning] http://sanskrit.gde.to/ [major works] in devanagari (THANK YOU SUNDER-JI for these wonderful links) Yes, Nair-ji! is this not Adi sankara Bhagavadapada also say in the Baja Govindam stotra? naliniidalagata jalamatitaralaM tadvajjiivitamatishayachapalam.h . viddhi vyaadhyabhimaanagrastaM lokaM shokahataM cha samastam.h (verse 4) The life of a man is as uncertain as rain drops trembling on a lotus leaf. Know that the whole world remains a prey to disease, ego and grief. well, i do not think there is therefore anything contradictory about an Ordinary man who turns into a Yogi after realizing that wine, women and wealth are all 'transitory' pleasures and the only thing that is 'permanent' and 'eternal' is the SELF .... Atma-Gyana!!! our most respected Ananda-ji has furnished a wonderful explanation on BHATRUHARI'S PHILOSOPHY AND I CANNOT MATCH THAT! thank you , aAnanda- ji ! You are so versatile! i luv Shakespeare ! as far as SHRI Nisargadatta Maharajji'S 'SMOKING' ADDICTION IS CONCERNED , I CANNOT COMMENT ON THAT ! but, i know for sure ,that our most beloved saint SHRI Ramakrishna Pparamahamsa used to smoke 'tobacco' via the Hookah ... but being a paramahamsa he could do that because he had transcended all duality ! He was a true Tantrik-Advaitin who had transceded all pain and pleasure ! Hope i was not too 'brazen' IN MY RESPONSE!!! SMILES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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