Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Dear Divine Souls, I humbly request the learned people here to make me understand whether Einstein's Theory of Relativity is similar to Lord Shankara's Advaita Philosophy. Because according to Shri Shankar Jagam Mithya. Every vision depends on Drishti and Drashta. For example if we see a wall at normal eye sight it is just wall and not quite big. But at the same time if we see the same wall at micron level wall seems almost all infinite. Then what is the wall size? Naturally answer comes it depends on the Drashta who sees it. In this way everything is based on Theory of Relativity. It directly means it is all our Bhranti what we are feeling that this world is existing. It takes 9 minutes for sun's rays to reach the earth (If I am wrong pls correct). That means even if there is a major change or catastrophe in sun, it will take 9 mts to know for us. Similarly there are some Nakshatras from where it takes 4 and half years for light travelling. Suppose if we assume there are Budhijeevis who can watch earth with powerful scientific instruments then they will see our 4 and half years past life. My personal opinion is that it is Shankara's Advaita philosophy only which can answer any kind of scientific challenge about the existence of Parabrahman which is spread all over universe. Even scientists are saying the same theory which is told by Adi Shankar centuries back that "Energy and Material cannot be created and cannot be destroyed." I am not fit to write anything in this group, but out of my anxiety I am writing this. Sarve Jana: Sukhinobhavantu!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Namaste Vasuji. Your thoughts are exactly the ones that propel scientists to Sankara. But, let me say something about your equating E=MC2 to Advaita. When Newton propounded the *Lord's* Laws of Gravitation, everyone thought that was the last word. Then came in Einstein who overhauled our concepts. Although, Einstein has not yet been effectively refuted, we have to see both him and Newton as only milestones in our exploration of the universe. It is an unending journey which has only just begun. Those who know that it is unending would naturally turn back to themselves. This is where Sankara has triumphed. He knew that the Truth lay very much in the explorer (drashtA) and not in the explored (drisyA). E=MC2 belongs to the latter and, therefore, is in the danger of being upturned any time. We can already see the birth-pangs of future theories that may possibly question Einstein. Advaita covers the former - the one that doesn't change and is the constant substratum for all that changes. There, therefore, is no danger of it being upturned. And that is a big difference. In conclusion, therefore, the knowledge E=MC2 is, because VASUJI IS. PraNAms. Madathil Nair _________________________advaitin, "vasu145" <vasu145> wrote: ......... > I humbly request the learned people here to make me understand > whether Einstein's Theory of Relativity is similar to Lord Shankara's > Advaita Philosophy................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 My profound Namaskarams to Madathil Nair ji, Thanks for clarifying me on the above theory. "Thowse who know that exploration of universe is unending would naturally turn back to themselves". I am very much satisfied with this statement. This difference we can see in Indian history and other countries' history and epics etc. Personaly I feel nobody can point out Advaita Theory which is the Ultimate truth. Sarve Jana: Sukhinobhavantu Lok:Samastaa Sukhinobhavantu <madathilnair> wrote: > Namaste Vasuji. > > Your thoughts are exactly the ones that propel scientists to Sankara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 dear mr vasuji, during his research work on relativity he must have come across things beyond his reasoning and one might be enlightenment. This can be because, "Although Einstein was not associated with any orthodox religion, his nature was deeply religious. Merely to come into his presence was always a profoundly Spiritual Experience. Although he felt that belief in a parallel God was too specific a concept to be applicable to the being at work in this universe, he never believed that universe was one of chance or chaos. The universe to him was one of absolute law and order". The dictionary meaning of infinite is " absolute, bottomless, boundless. Fathomless, immeasurable, stupendous, untold, vast and vide". I think when we say about god, we assume him to be beyond our scientific estimations. That is why no definite figure has been or can be given to infinity in our mathematical calculations. Since it can't be given a definite number it is given a figure closer to that of infinity. Like absolute zero as per scientific terms is -273 degree cel.since no one has gone beyond that we accepted it as the correct and final figure. When it comes to realization of God, he can be realized absolutely with out any doubt, if we are sincere and our sadhana is pure. We should consider him as the figure we should realize then we will be clear of all other terms like infinite etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Namaste Vasuji, For a good primer into that try reading 'Advaita Vedanta and Modern Science' by John Dobson. http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/9535/Vedanta/index.html and other articles by John Dobson: http://www.johndobson.org/ with love Mira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2004 Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 Namaste Miraji, Hv seen the links sent by you. It looks it will take days to read the links. But I appreciate they are really informative. Please let me know if you have similar kind of links. Sarve: Jana: Sukhinobhavantu advaitin, "mi_ra_gu" <mi_ra_gu> wrote: > Namaste Vasuji, > > For a good primer into that try reading 'Advaita Vedanta and Modern > Science' by John Dobson. > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/9535/Vedanta/index.html > > and other articles by John Dobson: > http://www.johndobson.org/ > > with love > > Mira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 respeted advaitins, it is high time we understood that our rishies were/are scientists incomaparable. it is "science after newton" we and our children have been studying in schools. " science before newton" is being buried under "secular" politics, and we must try to see beyond that. gravitation was known to aryabhatta and bhaskara raya centuries before newton. so also every other aspect of science. nobody in aryavarta ever said the earth was flat or that the universe was limited to any particular constellation. we can go on in this manner in every discipline of science. respectfully yours, a.v.krshnan. --- Madathil Rajendran Nair <madathilnair wrote: > Namaste Vasuji. > > Your thoughts are exactly the ones that propel > scientists to Sankara. > But, let me say something about your equating E=MC2 > to Advaita. > > When Newton propounded the *Lord's* Laws of > Gravitation, everyone > thought that was the last word. > > Then came in Einstein who overhauled our concepts. > > Although, Einstein has not yet been effectively > refuted, we have to > see both him and Newton as only milestones in our > exploration of the > universe. It is an unending journey which has only > just begun. > Those who know that it is unending would naturally > turn back to > themselves. > > This is where Sankara has triumphed. He knew that > the Truth lay very > much in the explorer (drashtA) and not in the > explored (drisyA). > > E=MC2 belongs to the latter and, therefore, is in > the danger of being > upturned any time. We can already see the > birth-pangs of future > theories that may possibly question Einstein. > > Advaita covers the former - the one that doesn't > change and is the > constant substratum for all that changes. There, > therefore, is no > danger of it being upturned. And that is a big > difference. > > In conclusion, therefore, the knowledge E=MC2 is, > because VASUJI IS. > > PraNAms. > > Madathil Nair > _________________________--- In > advaitin, "vasu145" > <vasu145> wrote: > > ........ > > I humbly request the learned people here to make > me understand > > whether Einstein's Theory of Relativity is similar > to Lord > Shankara's > > Advaita Philosophy................. > > _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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