Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 namaste sri.jayaram, here is one of my earlier posts in this regard. a.v.krshnan. --- av krshnan <avkrshnan wrote: > Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:56:08 +0100 (BST) > av krshnan <avkrshnan > Re: On Karma Yoga and apologies > Chittaranjan Naik <chittaranjan_naik > > most respected shri. chittaranjan ji, > you have compounded my > apachaaram > by making YOU apologise to me. > i am indeed sorry i have caused > this to happen. > with your kind permission, i > would > now like to reopen my stated views on " > karmanya > eva adhikarasate------". [ the views are not > mine,as > you will see] > ============================ > > like never before in its history > of > a million years of sanatana dharma, hinduism is now > under extreme threat. in the last 50 years after > independence, the proportion of hindus in india has > decreased alarmingly. the north east is beyond > redemption. soon it will reach zero % hindus. that > has > been the scale of success of the concerted and > rabid > conversions there. > the ratio of hindus:minorities is > hovering on the 50: 50 brink in six other > states.chhattisgarh has gone the north east way. it > was 50:50 in kerala after the last census. we wd > have > reached minority status by now, in kerala. > tamil nadu had been preaching the > DK-DMK ism for fifty yrs now. > of the land mass, 70 % of the land > mass and real estate is in the hands of 30% of the > minoroties. most of the wealth and cash flow is > with > the minorities. > ===================================== > when aadi shankara took up cudgels > to > restore sanatana dharma, the competing faiths were > all > sister-religions of hinduism, mainly budhhism and > jainism, which are no more than branches of the > tree > of hinduism. they too are dharmic. the yuddham was > dharma yudhham. > the situation is comprehensively > different today. the two faiths vying with each > other > to gobble up india are both products of a totally > different philosophy[ rather, they are yet to > develop > any philosophy!!!]. > it is open war, grossly ADHARMIC, > with the " secular"government solidly behind the > aliens. > ============================== > seeing this situation developing, > decades ago, our swamijis and gurus felt the need > for > a comprehensive " text" on hinduism. > as you know, the other faiths all > have > a very handy, diary size " black book" which is > every > thing for them, and in secular india, this book is > memorised by every child and adult of those faiths. > and our vedas , upanishds and > scriptures are being given to us thro the > interpretations of macaulay, max mueller and other > western " masters". we have been made to be ashamed > of our own heritage. as you have seen during the > last > six years, the govt is absolutely impotent if it > wants to revive the almost dead sanskrit, or to > teach > the vedas, sastras and upanishads in the regular > curricula. > our children clear 12 yrs of schooling, 4 > to > 6 yrs of college without ever getting a whiff of > what > our faith is. remember, our families are becoming > unitary too at break-neck speed. so there are no > more > grand parents and grand uncles to fill the vacuum. > ================================ > as i said, decades ago, seeing this > situation > developing, our acharyas beginning with > vivekanada,sivananda, dayanada,chinmayananda, > prabhupada and others arrived at the idea of having > bhagavad gita as a " secular"ly acceptable " handy > book" for the hindus. > ============================== > you will readily agree with me that bhagavad > gita cannot be a common man's " black book" on our > dharma. BG is distilled philosophy. philosophy of > the > highest order. no other work on philosophy can come > anywhere near it in contents , reach, and > interpretations. it is sublime, inimitable. > such a grand , concise thesis on the loftiness > of the human mind cannot be used as a basic text > book > on our vast dharmic edifice which is additionally > coated with endless layers of rust and solidified > moss > gathered over eons of time. > [ as a matter of fact, BG is the only work that > is prescribed as a "must read" and practice text > for the sannyaasies. they have no other " karma" to > > " perform" other than reading the BG daily.] > ================================= > on a scale of intellectual evolution, say, > of > 100, if you are at a level of 90 , and i am at a > level > of abt 01, the common hindu on the streets is > somewhere at minus 10 to minus 50. > for this common hindu, what the BG says is > very simply " do your duty without expecting any > returns". > " karmayevaashikarasthe > maa phaleshu kadaachana ". > just imagine countering the uncontrolled > conversionists who promise the uninitiated > innocenti > that " you follow our god, and presto, you get the > > bounties of whatever you can ask!!". > ============================== > > it is in this context that SWAMI DAYANANDA > SARASWATI has clarified thus.. > according to the interpretation of swami > dayananda, lord krishna has not said that you > should > perform your actions without expecting anything > in return. > what krishna has said is that > " you have CONTROL only over what you do. > you have NO CONTROL over the returns > thereon". > > " karmanya eva ADHIKAARA HA, > TE [THAT ADHIKAARAM] > MAA PHALESHU KADACHANA." > > the interpretation would then become : > you do you duty. > you can do that as you wish. > but, remember. > it is i who will control the fruits > thereon. > who knows, the returns may be > hundred-fold!!! > > =================================== > > AS you have so rightly pointed out to your > reply to my mail, krishna himself qualifies this > statement in the following sections of BG. you > and > i can very well understand HIS intentions, and we > will continue to perform our actions in the > serene > contentment that HE knows what, how , when, and how > much returns we deserve. > but for this common , rudderless man on the > street, chased by unprincipled " child > catchers"---? > and "cattle chasers"??----. > ========================== > > as an aside to this, we do need a concise " > practice book " on hinduism for the sake of our > gen-next who have not even a whiff of what our > religion stands for! > RENEWING MY APOLOGIES, > respectfully yours, > a.v.krshnan. > --- Chittaranjan Naik <chittaranjan_naik > wrote: > > Dear Shri Krishnanji, > > > > You have nothing to be apologetic about. You saw > > something amiss in > > what I said, and I would have liked to know what > it > > was. But it is > > okay, let the matter rest. > > > > Perhaps, my words were spoken in a pontifical > manner > > which might not > > have been to your liking. I am aware that this is > a > > failing of mine. > > Maybe it is my pride that comes across like that. > My > > apologies if I > > offended you by seeming to talk with undue > authority > > on the topic. > > > > Pranams, > > Chittaranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________ALL-NEW > Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > http://uk.messenger. > _________ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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