Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Thank You Sunder-ji for posting these verses from Gita! Verse 3:9 gives a powerful message Detatched Action is preferable to Inaction ... Earlier i had posted a verse from Gita -2:47 and this was the interpretation that was quoted by me You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you're not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself to be the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty. (2:47) as usual, there were objections from some members ...one member objected to the phrase 'entitled to the fruits of action' ... and then introduced another factor in the equation about God's will etc... WE members here love to engaze in 'Tarka' and KuTarka' and 'Vithanda- vada' ! After all it is all about 'Style' and not substance. is not it? and then we want to bring Politics into Religion and Religion into politics ! One member even blamed the British for PERPETUATING The Caste System in INDIA IN A PRIVATE EMAIL TO ME! ? Anyone who knows about the Great Kurukshetra yuddha knows that Arjuna, although a Kshatriya ( a warrior) was reluctant to fight because on the other side of the battle were his cousins , the kauravas and uncles like Bishma pitamah etc! Arjuna was reluctant to shed 'blood' for the sake of acquring the Pandavas rightful share of the Kingdom. Lord Krishna was simply urging Arjuna to give up all se delusional thinking and perform arjuna's swadharma as a WARRIOR WHICH IS TO FIGHT !!! so, may be a better translation would be - 2:47 (bg) Your right is in regard to action , never in the Outcome . Do not have the Outcome of Action as your motive, nor should you be attached to inaction. Is this tranlation better and less controversial? There are many elements involved In practicing Karma Yoga ... 1) You are not the Performer of any action .... You are only the 'instrument ' in the hands of the Divine ! He /she is the operator , you are the Machine . ( Remember that famous words when Krishna tells Arjuna " Don't think your arrows killed Karna, he had died before that! Krishna here is referring to the famous 'Parasurama curse') 2) Action may be 'detatched' but it is still your duty to perform it ... Can you imagine if a patriot like Gandhiji did not motivate, inspire and lead his countrymen in their march for swaraj and simply hid behind Prison cells , what would have happened? A gandhiji in Prison was more dangerous than a Gandhiji on the March in the streets of Delhi ! a FASTING GANDHI was a continous threat to the British ! hE WAS PERFORMING HIS ROLE AS A PATRIOT WHETHER HE WAS SPINNING THE CHARKA, LEADING THE DANDI MARCH, CONDUCTING HIS PRAYER MEETINGS OR EDITING HIS NEWSPAPER YOUNG INDIA! 3)Also , i have seen some so called social workers even though they are not attached to the fruits of their actions are 'egoistically'attached to Action ITSELF. THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE EITHER ! Intention behind the Action- avoid 'selfish' actions consequences of the action - we have no control over that as well ! i leave you with this ... Disciple -If I am not the body why am I responsible for the consequences of my good and bad actions? Bhagwan Ramana- If you are not the body and do not have the idea "I am the doer," the consequences of your good or bad actions will not affect you. Why do you say about the actions the body performs "I do this" or "I did that"? As long as you identify yourself with the body like that you are affected by the consequences of the actions, that is to say, while you identify with the body you accumulate good and bad karma. Hari AUM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Namaste, Here is an opportunity to practise Gita 3:25-26! The word adhikAra does have many nuances: right, prerogative, qualifications, control. What is crucial is how our understanding gets translated into practice rather than into words! Regards, Sunder advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > Earlier i had posted a verse from Gita -2:47 > > and this was the interpretation that was quoted by me > as usual, there were objections from some members ...one member > objected to the phrase 'entitled to the fruits of action' ... and > then introduced another factor in the equation about God's will > etc... > > WE members here love to engaze in 'Tarka' and KuTarka' and 'Vithanda- > vada' ! After all it is all about 'Style' and not substance. is not > it? and then we want to bring Politics into Religion and Religion > into politics ! One member even blamed the British for PERPETUATING > The Caste System in INDIA IN A PRIVATE EMAIL TO ME! ? > > so, may be a better translation would be - 2:47 (bg) > > Your right is in regard to action , never in the Outcome . > Do not have the Outcome of Action as your motive, > nor should you be attached to inaction. > > Is this tranlation better and less controversial? > Also , i have seen some so called social workers even though they > are not attached to the fruits of their actions > are 'egoistically'attached to Action ITSELF. THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE > EITHER ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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