Guest guest Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 namaste. During the interlude between the discussions of the monthly topics, may I bring up this query. While studying the kAmakalA vilAsa (shoDasAkharI mantra vivaraNa), I came across the following mantra which is said to be from the shruti. parokshaMcA paroksheti vidyAdvedhA vicArajA tatrAparokshavidyAptau vicAro'yam samApyataH The meaning is clear (I think). Through vicAraNa (analysis), we get paroksha jnAnam and aparoksha jnAnam. Of that, getting (or having) that aparoksha jnAna is the culmination of the analysis. I would be most grateful if shri Sunder-ji or any other member let me know from which shruti is this mantra and the reference there to. Thanking you in advance. Regards Gummuluru Murthy --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Namaste Murthy-ji, I have not been able to locate this mantra in the Upanishad or Vedic Concordance books. There are some passing references to the tantra book, but no complete translation or cross-referencing to shrutis. (Sometimes one has to wonder, if mention of 'shruti' is made just to give 'authority' to the quotation!! else the original source could easily have been given). These references are excellent: http://web.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/tantra/index.html http://www.shivashakti.com/ http://harsha16.topcities.com/index.htm Regards, Sunder advaitin, Gummuluru Murthy <gmurthy@m...> wrote: > > namaste. > > During the interlude between the discussions of the monthly topics, > may I bring up this query. > > While studying the kAmakalA vilAsa (shoDasAkharI mantra vivaraNa), > I came across the following mantra which is said to be from the > shruti. > > parokshaMcA paroksheti vidyAdvedhA vicArajA > tatrAparokshavidyAptau vicAro'yam samApyataH > > The meaning is clear (I think). Through vicAraNa (analysis), we > get paroksha jnAnam and aparoksha jnAnam. Of that, getting (or > having) that aparoksha jnAna is the culmination of the analysis. > > I would be most grateful if shri Sunder-ji or any other member > let me know from which shruti is this mantra and the reference > there to. > > Thanking you in advance. > > Regards > Gummuluru Murthy > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Namaste Murthy-ji, The quotation is from Sw. Vidyaranya's Panchadashi 6:15 [Chitra Dipa adhyaya] Panchadashi 6:15 parokShA cha aparokShA iti vidyA dvedhA vichAra-jA | tatra aparokSha-vidyAptau vichAraH ayaM samApyate || "The Knowledge arising from enquiry and reflection is of two kinds, Indirect and Direct. Enquiry ends on the achievement of the Direct Knowledge of the Self." [Tr. Hari Prasad Shastri; Publ. Shanti Sadan 1965] Regards, Sunder advaitin, Gummuluru Murthy <gmurthy@m...> wrote: > While studying the kAmakalA vilAsa (shoDasAkharI mantra vivaraNa), > I came across the following mantra which is said to be from the > shruti. > > parokshaMcA paroksheti vidyAdvedhA vicArajA > tatrAparokshavidyAptau vicAro'yam samApyataH > > The meaning is clear (I think). Through vicAraNa (analysis), we > get paroksha jnAnam and aparoksha jnAnam. Of that, getting (or > having) that aparoksha jnAna is the culmination of the analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 namaste shri Sunder-ji, Thanks very much for the information. It is amazing how you can get to the source and the reference so quickly so many times in response to request by members. The recent reference you provided to shri Dennis Waite is another example. In my Telugu book on kAmakalA vilAsa, the reference is given as shruti. May be, as you said, the reference is given as shruti to give it an 'authority'. Or, the author considered pancadashi discussions as shruti (because of his reverence to that text). Thanks again for clarifying the origin of this verse. Regards Gummuluru Murthy ------------------------------ advaitin, "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh> wrote: > > Namaste Murthy-ji, > > The quotation is from Sw. Vidyaranya's Panchadashi > 6:15 [Chitra Dipa adhyaya] > > Panchadashi 6:15 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 advaitin, "gmurthy_99" <gmurthy@m...> wrote: > > Thanks very much for the information. It is amazing how > you can get to the source and the reference so quickly > so many times in response to request by members. Thanks to 'Google', and some luck with the 'key words' entries!! Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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