Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Harsha wrote: Sri Ramana: Everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state. So long as daily life Dear Sri Harshaji, IMHO, everdaylife is a state and "Eternal" is not a state, and if it is also a state, it is subject to change. "Eternal" is permanent, i.e. anadi,madhya, antha, with no beginning, and end, and everyday life appears to be a manifestatation of that. Warm regards advaitin/ advaitin Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Namaste. Maniji, with your words, we seem to be back on the three states and turIyA. I believe Harshaji meant turIyA by 'eternal state' although it is not a state. Actually, wakefulness, dreaming and deep sleep - the three states - are actually turIyA as gold ornaments are really gold. But, we don't simply understand them as such. Admitting this misunderstanding of ours, Harshaji is quite right in saying that 'everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state'. One who has 'realized' himself is 'always AWAKE' whether in wakefulness, dream or deep sleep. One who hasn't simply doesn't know that he really is 'always AWAKE'. PraNAms. Madathil Nair ___________________ > > Harsha wrote: > Sri Ramana: > > Everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state. So long as daily life _____________________ advaitin, "R.S.MANI" <r_s_mani> wrote: .... > IMHO, everdaylife is a state and "Eternal" is not a state, and if it is also a state, it is subject to change. "Eternal" is permanent, i.e. anadi,madhya, antha, with no beginning, and end, and everyday life appears to be a manifestatation of that. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 advaitin, "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair> wrote: > > Namaste. > > Maniji, with your words, we seem to be back on the three states and > turIyA. Namaste, The verse to contemplate on this is Gita 2:69: yaa nishaa sarvabhuutaanaaM tasyaa.n jaagarti sa.nyamii . yasyaa.n jaagrati bhuutaani saa nishaa pashyato muneH .. 2\-69.. 69. That which is night to all beings, in that the self-controlled man keeps awake; where all beings are awake, that is the night for the Sage (MUNI) who sees. Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Namaste, hope to celebrate marriage with the Eternal "State" so one day.... with love Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Namaste, Sri Nairji, and Sri Harshaji, Madathil Rajendran Nair <madathilnair wrote: <<<I believe Harshaji meant turIyA by 'eternal state' although it is not a state. Actually, wakefulness, dreaming and deep sleep - the three states - are actually turIyA as gold ornaments are really gold. But, we don't simply understand them as such. Admitting this misunderstanding of ours, Harshaji is quite right in saying that 'everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state'. >>> Yes, now I understand. I hope my earlier post was not taken as an attempt to question anyody, but more for getting my own understanding clear. Hari Om advaitin/ advaitin vote. - Register online to vote today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Sri Ramana: Everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state. So long as daily life is imagined to be different from the spiritual life these difficulties arise. If the spiritual life is rightly understood the active life will be found to be not different from it. Can the mind be got at the mind on looking for it as an object. The source of mental functions must be sought and gained. That is the Reality. March 21, 1937 - Talks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Dear Madathil Ji and Maniji: I was actually quoting Sri Ramana from the "Talks". Madathil Ji, however, has further explained it very well. Will pass this on to HS. Words, concepts, and thoughts cannot fully capture or contain That which is prior to them. Self is always Self-Awake and presents It Self to It Self as Self Presence-Existence. Sri Ramana was probably saying that since Self is never absent, it is not in conflict with any perception or perceived state including the everyday life state. Self is always Here, but mysteriously not recognized or reflected in the intellect of all equally due to karma- samskaras, etc. When through spiritual practice, the mind is thinned out and becomes transparent, the Self becomes spontaneously evident and asserts itself as Pure Sat-Chit-Ananda, devoid of all qualities and sorrow. Since the mind itself arises out of the Self, it carries with it the quality of the Self as consciousness permeates it like water permeates a sponge. This makes it possible for the introverted mind through its own self-consciousness to trace the route back to its Source and merge with it. Meditation on the nature of the Self as pure consciousness and pure being that is not different than our own consciousness and our own being contains the essence of all beauty and emerges from reflecting on the Mahavakyas or hearing the words of Bhagavan with faith. Love to all Harsha - "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair <advaitin> Monday, October 11, 2004 12:17 AM Re: Everyday Life and the Eternal State > > Namaste. > > Maniji, with your words, we seem to be back on the three states and > turIyA. > > I believe Harshaji meant turIyA by 'eternal state' although it is not > a state. Actually, wakefulness, dreaming and deep sleep - the three > states - are actually turIyA as gold ornaments are really gold. But, > we don't simply understand them as such. Admitting this > misunderstanding of ours, Harshaji is quite right in saying > that 'everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state'. One who > has 'realized' himself is 'always AWAKE' whether in wakefulness, > dream or deep sleep. One who hasn't simply doesn't know that he > really is 'always AWAKE'. > > PraNAms. > > Madathil Nair > ___________________ > > > > > Harsha wrote: > > Sri Ramana: > > > > Everyday life is not divorced from the Eternal state. So long as > daily life > _____________________ > > advaitin, "R.S.MANI" <r_s_mani> wrote: > ... > > IMHO, everdaylife is a state and "Eternal" is not a state, and if > it is also a state, it is subject to change. "Eternal" is permanent, > i.e. anadi,madhya, antha, with no beginning, and end, and everyday > life appears to be a manifestatation of that. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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