Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Sunder-ji writes "I do not believe in treating vratas so casually, that is all." Yes! You are absolutelt right! i am Guilty as charged!! sorry! However, may i quote a verse from SRIMAD BHAGVATAM on this subject of Vratas? Mauna -vrata -sruta -tapo -adhyayana- sva-dharma - vyakhya- rahah- japa- samadhyah- apavargyah ̣ prayah -param -purusha -te -tu -ajitaindriyanam varta -bhavanty- -uta- na-vatra -tu -dambhikanam O supreme Personality of Godhead, there are ten prescribed methods on the path to liberation — to remain silent, not to speak to anyone, to observe vows, to amass all kinds of Vedic knowledge, to undergo austerities, to study the Vedas and other Vedic literatures, to execute the duties of Varnashrama dharma , to explain the sastras , to stay in a solitary place, to chant mantras silently, and to be absorbed in trance. These different methods for liberation are generally only a professional practice and means of livelihood for those who have not conquered their senses. Because such persons are falsely proud, these procedures may not be successful. Srila prabhupada further explains "Mauna, for example, does not mean that one should just stop speaking. The tongue is meant for speaking, although sometimes, to make a big show, a person remains silent. There are many who observe silence some day in a week. Vaishnavas , however, do not observe such silence. Silence means not speaking foolishly. Speakers at assemblies, conferences and meetings generally speak foolishly like toads. This is described by Srila RUPA GOSWAMI as vaco vegam. One who wants to say something can show himself to be a big orator, but rather than go on speaking nonsense, better to remain silent. This method of silence, therefore, is recommended for persons very attached to speaking nonsense. One who is not a devotee must speak nonsensically because he does not have the power to speak about the glories of Krishna . . Thus whatever he says is influenced by the illusory energy and is compared to the croaking of a frog. One who speaks about the glories of the Lord, however, has no need to be silent. Caitanya Mahaprabhu recommends, kirtanyah sada harih&! one should go on chanting the glories of the Lord twenty- four hours a day. There is no question of becoming mauna, or silent. The ten processes for liberation or improvement on the path of liberation are not meant for the devotees. " http://www.srimadbhagavatam.com/7/9/46 - 11k - Cached Harihi Aum! WISHING YOU ALL A HAPPY VIJAYADASHAMI! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Adiji! Shut up! Listen to what the captain says and obey him. You may be a very good swimmer. Others may not be. We need the captain. So, may Sunderji stay at the mast with his commands - the captain of the Advaintin ship - and let us follow his advice so that we don't sink. So complete your mauna and come back. As a penance, I suggest you extend it for one more week. Then we may have lots to talk. PraNAms. Madathil Nair ___________________ advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > > Sunder-ji writes > > "I do not believe in treating vratas so casually, that is all." > > Yes! You are absolutelt right! i am Guilty as charged!! sorry! > > However, may i quote a verse from SRIMAD BHAGVATAM on this subject of > Vratas? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 nair-ji! now, i really feel 'ecstatically' kicked ! i guess one good Kick deserves another !! smiles!!( remember ?) you are just returning me the compliment!!! only thing is , a woman's feet are worshippable as Guru's feet says Kubjika Tantra !!! i never for once doubted Sunderji's anchorship of Advaitin ship!did you? i always have the highest regard for him as is so obvious from all my posts. Your wish is my command! why only one week? why not two weeks? may be a month? smiles!!! anyway!!! just returned from attending Diwali Mela and was so happy to see the students of Chinmaya Mission performing so well!! missed seeing Sadaji, Ram-ji! love and take care!! -- In advaitin, "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair> wrote: > > Adiji! > > Shut up! Listen to what the captain says and obey him. You may be > a very good swimmer. Others may not be. We need the captain. So, > may Sunderji stay at the mast with his commands - the captain of the > Advaintin ship - and let us follow his advice so that we don't sink. > So complete your mauna and come back. As a penance, I suggest you > extend it for one more week. Then we may have lots to talk. > > PraNAms. > > Madathil Nair > ___________________ > > advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" > <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > > > > Sunder-ji writes > > > > "I do not believe in treating vratas so casually, that is all." > > > > Yes! You are absolutelt right! i am Guilty as charged!! sorry! > > > > However, may i quote a verse from SRIMAD BHAGVATAM on this subject > of > > Vratas? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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