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to that. Swamiji's answer is quite thoughtful and most importantly humorous:

He commented the person for asking a very good question. He further said the

following: First type this question neatly and safely fold the paper and keep it

in your pocket. Then when you get the occasion to meet the God, ask him the same

question. The God will applaud you and will provide you with the right answer.

Until then, you may have to wait! I certainly don't pretend to say that I have

an answer! The person who asked this question along with the audience were

totally stunned and become speechless. We don't want to repeat what Swamiji

said and we stop right here!

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Pranam, I read on Sri Ramesh Balsekar's website that

 

"You never need fear God.No human object ever had the

power to do anything against God's will."

 

One cannot help wondering how to explain Hiroshima,

Nagasaki and the genocide of 6 million Jews in this

perspective. Can the more enlightened please help me

with this. Is it nature's ways of cleansing things or

is it really God's will but my questions become

material since God means saguna brahman but Guru

Shankar says Brahman is really Nirguna. Prof VK says

that the very concept of Maya brings the reference of

time and space and both are non-existent in reality.

Can someone please elaborate on this.

 

With best regards,

Shailendra

 

 

 

 

 

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advaitin, Shailendra Bhatnagar

<bhatnagar_shailendra> wrote:

....I read on Sri Ramesh Balsekar's website that

>

> "You never need fear God.No human object ever had the

> power to do anything against God's will."

>

> One cannot help wondering how to explain Hiroshima,

> Nagasaki and the genocide of 6 million Jews in this

> perspective. Can the more enlightened please help me

> with this. Is it nature's ways of cleansing things or

> is it really God's will but my questions become

> material since God means saguna brahman but Guru

> Shankar says Brahman is really Nirguna. Prof VK says

> that the very concept of Maya brings the reference of

> time and space and both are non-existent in reality.

> Can someone please elaborate on this.

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Namaste Shailendraji.

 

Your post generated the following thoughts in me:

 

Hiroshima, Nagasaki and genocides weigh us down because we feel that

we have wronged.

 

We are not bothered by good acts performed for world peace because we

feel that they are the right things to do.

 

Remorse and virtuous satisfaction can occur only to one who feels

that he has a role or agency in actions or to one who differentiates

between good and bad.

 

One without a sense of role takes all that happening around him as

God's will – I would put it slightly differently – as Consciousness

unraveling.

 

This is not to say that he is a fatalist and doesn't act. He does

his mite to bring about positive changes but is not carried away by

what he does and the results thereof. He has the right knowledge

that the actions are not his. The actions are only Consciousness

unraveling. He witnesses his `own' actions. How can he act against

Consciousness when he doesn't even have the ownership of his `own'

actions and where is the need for fear of that Consciousness when he

knows that his real nature is Consciousness? I think this is what

Shri Balsekar meant.

 

A catastrophe that a nightmare unraveled last night doesn't bother me

when I awake because I know that it happened in me and am still a

homogeneous whole despite the distressing dream. Similarly, an

advaitin, who constantly knows that he is homogeneously the whole

universe without an outside or inside recognizes that Hiroshima,

Nagasaki etc. are *apparently* within him and he is one whole despite

the *apparent* suffering that bombings at these places wrought.

 

Suffering in calamities and happiness in good acts are thus

*apparent* in reference to an advaitin's wholeness. Well, from the

point of view of values (this month's topic), we vote for good acts

because they cleanse and prepare us for advaitic knowledge. But,

once the knowledge has dawned, good and bad are both *apparent*

without any difference. An advaitin then becomes a spontaneous

performer of right acts without any feeling of agency or conflicts.

He is then verily Consciousness that is Wholeness.

 

Since there cannot be divisions in Wholeness, the *apparence*

mentioned above is to be understood as the enactment of mAyA on the

fabric of space and time.

 

PraNAms.

 

Madathil Nair

 

P.S.: Don't look for the word `apparence' in standard dictionaries.

You will most certainly not find it except in a not much known one.

That itself is the meaning of the word – it is not there on earnest

enquiry (Smiles).