Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

Karma, Akarma and Vikarma

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Namaste, Since I am referring to Karma, obviously I am

talking about the material plane of existence. Krishna

says that he who sees inaction in action and action

in inaction is the wise man. We should offer the

results of all actions back to society, country, God

since we did not bring anything to this world. How

will the poor, the needy, the hungry, the homeless,

the famine stricken, the jobless follow this path ?

Is this path only for a fortunate few ? Who will teach

self-knowledge and spirituality to these people ? How

will they attain Moksha ? The other way to look at it

is that if the haves do their part sincerely, it will

help alleviate the state of the have-nots and improve

society. I would appreciate a response from the more

enlightened folks.

 

thanks for your patience,

Shailendra

 

 

 

 

 

Check out the new Front Page.

www.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Namaste Shailendraji.

 

My two cents are in .

 

Shailendraji wrote:

> Krishna

> says that he who sees inaction in action and action

> in inaction is the wise man. We should offer the

> results of all actions back to society, country, God

> since we did not bring anything to this world. How

> will the poor, the needy, the hungry, the homeless,

> the famine stricken, the jobless follow this path ?

> Is this path only for a fortunate few ? Who will teach

> self-knowledge and spirituality to these people ? How

> will they attain Moksha ?

 

[The verse in question had been discussed here before. Please see my

post # 24433. Others have also commented on it in detail. You can

see their views if you follow the thread. Both the rich and poor can

do what Krishna advised. Your questions perhaps arise from a

misunderstanding of karma yoga. Please read Sw. Dayananda Saraswathi

in posts # 4692 to 4698 and see if your doubts still persist.]

 

Shailendraji continued:

>The other way to look at it

> is that if the haves do their part sincerely, it will

> help alleviate the state of the have-nots and improve

> society. I would appreciate a response from the more

> enlightened folks.

 

[unless the so-called 'haves' understand themselves, they won't be

able to be of any help to anybody. How can one who thinks that he is

bound free another one from imagined bondage? I should be full

before I can think of filling others. Then I don't have to fill at

all. My fullness fills spontaneously. That is the differnece

between spirituality and socialistic altruism. Your concern fo

destitute humanity, I am afraid, belongs to the latter category.]

 

PraNAms.

 

Madathil Nair

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Namaste Madathilji

Though I haven't been through the references quoted, I thooroughly

enjoyed the simplicity and directness with which you present the right

perspective. No wonder we hear, ever so often, saints telling us that

the biggest favor we can do to 'suffering' humanity is to find out who

we are first.

 

Leaves me with another thought.

We could have a series on 'beginners- questions' or 'questions from

silent members' where it should be stipulated that the answers or

responses be provided in not more than 3 lines and preferably without

quotes.

 

Many namaskarams to all

Sridhar

 

 

advaitin, "Madathil Rajendran Nair"

<madathilnair> wrote:

>

> Namaste Shailendraji.

>

> My two cents are in .

>

> Shailendraji wrote:

> > Krishna

> > says that he who sees inaction in action and action

> > in inaction is the wise man. We should offer the

> > results of all actions back to society, country, God

> > since we did not bring anything to this world. How

> > will the poor, the needy, the hungry, the homeless,

> > the famine stricken, the jobless follow this path ?

> > Is this path only for a fortunate few ? Who will teach

> > self-knowledge and spirituality to these people ? How

> > will they attain Moksha ?

>

> [The verse in question had been discussed here before. Please see my

> post # 24433. Others have also commented on it in detail. You can

> see their views if you follow the thread. Both the rich and poor can

> do what Krishna advised. Your questions perhaps arise from a

> misunderstanding of karma yoga. Please read Sw. Dayananda Saraswathi

> in posts # 4692 to 4698 and see if your doubts still persist.]

>

> Shailendraji continued:

>

> >The other way to look at it

> > is that if the haves do their part sincerely, it will

> > help alleviate the state of the have-nots and improve

> > society. I would appreciate a response from the more

> > enlightened folks.

>

> [unless the so-called 'haves' understand themselves, they won't be

> able to be of any help to anybody. How can one who thinks that he is

> bound free another one from imagined bondage? I should be full

> before I can think of filling others. Then I don't have to fill at

> all. My fullness fills spontaneously. That is the differnece

> between spirituality and socialistic altruism. Your concern fo

> destitute humanity, I am afraid, belongs to the latter category.]

>

> PraNAms.

>

> Madathil Nair

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nairji, Thanks for responding to my email. I will read

the threads you have pointed me to. By the way, I

was'nt thinking about socialism when I wrote this

email but was guided by the translation I heard on the

Gita audio cassette. Perhaps, I should read Mahadev

Alladi Sastryji's translation of Bhagwan

Shankaracharya's commentary on Gita.

 

regards,

Shailendra

 

>

> Namaste Shailendraji.

>

> My two cents are in .

>

> Shailendraji wrote:

> > Krishna

> > says that he who sees inaction in action and

> action

> > in inaction is the wise man. We should offer the

> > results of all actions back to society, country,

> God

> > since we did not bring anything to this world. How

> > will the poor, the needy, the hungry, the

> homeless,

> > the famine stricken, the jobless follow this path

> ?

> > Is this path only for a fortunate few ? Who will

> teach

> > self-knowledge and spirituality to these people ?

> How

> > will they attain Moksha ?

>

> [The verse in question had been discussed here

> before. Please see my

> post # 24433. Others have also commented on it in

> detail. You can

> see their views if you follow the thread. Both the

> rich and poor can

> do what Krishna advised. Your questions perhaps

> arise from a

> misunderstanding of karma yoga. Please read Sw.

> Dayananda Saraswathi

> in posts # 4692 to 4698 and see if your doubts still

> persist.]

>

> Shailendraji continued:

>

> >The other way to look at it

> > is that if the haves do their part sincerely, it

> will

> > help alleviate the state of the have-nots and

> improve

> > society. I would appreciate a response from the

> more

> > enlightened folks.

>

> [unless the so-called 'haves' understand themselves,

> they won't be

> able to be of any help to anybody. How can one who

> thinks that he is

> bound free another one from imagined bondage? I

> should be full

> before I can think of filling others. Then I don't

> have to fill at

> all. My fullness fills spontaneously. That is the

> differnece

> between spirituality and socialistic altruism. Your

> concern fo

> destitute humanity, I am afraid, belongs to the

> latter category.]

>

> PraNAms.

>

> Madathil Nair

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Check out the new Front Page.

www.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

advaitin, Shailendra Bhatnagar

<bhatnagar_shailendra> wrote:

>

> ? How

> will they attain Moksha ? The other way to look at it

> is that if the haves do their part sincerely, it will

> help alleviate the state of the have-nots and improve

> society. I would appreciate a response from the more

> enlightened folks.

>

> thanks for your patience,

> Shailendra

>

> Namasthe Shri Shailendra Ji!

 

Its an excellant and thought provoking thought....

 

One of the ways that I follow is whenever I get a chance , i share

many such feelings of godliness..(ie..the law of karma and its fruits

and how to attain moksha ) with my servants who i feel are better

than me in many ways and i also in turn learn from them...

 

regards..

jayshree

>

>

>

> Check out the new Front Page.

> www.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

<<We could have a series on 'beginners- questions' or 'questions from silent

members' where it should be stipulated that the answers or responses be

provided in not more than 3 lines and preferably without quotes.>>

 

Excellent idea, Sridhar-ji, and I agree - very clear and appropriate

response from Sri Nair.

 

Best wishes,

 

Dennis

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...