Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Hello, Glad to see the erudition of the members in the subject matters. I am a beginner to spiritual education and been looking into the Bhagavad Gita. The questions I have could appear rudimentary or trite, in which case I'd appreciate some pointers to refer. I wanted some clarifications on the term Bhakthi. I understand that there are the fours yogas viz; Karma Yoga, Gyana yoga, Dyana yoga and Bhakthi yoga. And the definition of yoga, I take it as per verse 2.48 BG. My questions are as below: 1. When there is a mention of "Yoga" in Gita, does it refer to Bhakthi Yoga? 2. Does Bhakthi Yoga encompass the other three yogas? 3. What is the difference between Bhakthi and Bhakthi yoga, if any? 4. Is it possible to attain/pursue Bhakthi Yoga without the other three? 5. Is Bhakthi Yoga considered superior to the other forms of yoga? 6. Does it at all matter what yoga you choose to perfect? Regards Narayanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 BG teaches only one path to liberation viz. knowledge. However to gain that knowledge, mind is required to be prepared through a life-style of yoga. Bhagwan teaches two such life-styles i.e. of a karmi-- karma yoga; and of a sannyaasi-- jnana yoga. Note that both these life-styles are just for preparing the mind for knowledge. They do not liberate in and through themselves. Ultimately it is knowledge that liberates-- be it for a karmi or a sannyasi. This was the cause of initial confusion of Arjuna. Since Bhagwaan praised jnana as the liberator, Arjuna jumped to the conclusion that it is better to be a sannyasi. In the later verses Bhagwan elaborates that either life-style is good for preparation of mind, however sannyasa is difficult for someone who is not yet ready for it. Bhagwan does not describe Bhakthi and Dhyana as independent yogas. This confusion might arise due to naming of specific chapters as Bhakthi Yoga and Dhyana yoga, but then every chapter in BG is named as yoga and there are certainly not 18 type of yogas! Bhakthi and Dhyana are supposed to be practiced by a karmi as well as a sannyasi. What does a Bhakthi Yogi supposed to do? Does he engage in Bhakthi all the time excluding everything else-- no other duties or responsibilities? Then he is actually a sannyasi. Or he takes care of his worldly duties while simultaneously recognizing the play of lord in all his actions? Then he is a karma yogi. There is no separate Bhakthi Yogi or Dhyana Yogi. Narada Bhakthi Sutra defines Bhakthi as "parama prema swaroopa" i.e. of the nature of absolute love. In love you establish partial identity with the object of love. You start seeing your wife, your children, your hose, your nation as part of "I". In case of absolute love, this identity is absolute i.e. I and Lord are one and the same. There is absolutely no difference between I and God. This realization is same as knowledge of advaita. It does matter which yoga or life-style you chose for pursuing this knowledge. The life-style of sannyasa or jnana yoga is the royal path if you are ready for it. Otherwise as Bhagwan has pointed out at several places that it could be a life of frustrations and suppressed desires if you have not matured to that stage. The other alternative is the life-style of Karma Yoga, where you follow your worldly duties in the spirit of bhagvad-arpana buddhi and prasada-buddhi to prepare your mind for the knowledge of advaita. Just my 2 cents. Regards, ----Original Message Follows---- "Narayanan Veeraraghavan" <nuv104> advaitin advaitin On Bhakthi Sun, 12 Dec 2004 05:38:22 -0000 I wanted some clarifications on the term Bhakthi. I understand that there are the fours yogas viz; Karma Yoga, Gyana yoga, Dyana yoga and Bhakthi yoga. And the definition of yoga, I take it as per verse 2.48 BG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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