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Dear friends

 

I am delighted to see your helpful replies and I thank you all

for giving me guidance. Here I want to share how I meditate. If you can suggest

some better ways then please tell me.

 

I meditate that all this world is full of krishna and every person and being I

see is Krishna. and I try to say to myself that i am nobody and only krishna is

there.

 

But sometimes the feeling comes that how can krishna be so sad and miserable and

at other places how can he be cruel and wicked.

 

Though I literally know that its all maya superposition on brahma but i am not

able to convince myself.

 

So what should i do and how should I meditate so that I can realize that all is

krishna or brahma.

 

some people say that this world is Lord's play (leela) and He himself is the

efficient and material cause of it. so it's just fun for him and that we are

just playing with him.

 

so I request you to help me organize my thoughts in meditation and what should

be the line in which I should think.

 

Regards

 

Samant Saurabh

 

 

 

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Namaste Sri Saurabh Ananda:

 

More than one thought is the biggest obstacles to meditation. We all

try hard to focus our thought on the Ishta Devata - Krishna, Rama,

Shiva, Sakthi, Ganesa, Narayana. But our focus is disturbed by the "I

thouhgt - Why I am not happy?, Why me? etc., etc." The I thought is

the identification thought or the thought of being a separate entity

from the Brahaman. Bhagavad Gita's medicine for the cure of " I

thought" is to conduct our duties with the yagna spirit - Karma

Yoga. By doing our work spontaneously without looking for rewards

for our actions, we can cultivate the prasada buddhi. Essentially

Karma Yoga is meditation - doing our work without having the thought

that "I am the doer." These technical details for attaining "pure

meditation" are spelled out clearly in the various chapters of Gita

but we are very skeptical about this medicine. Consequently we suffer

because we want to be a proud DOER and get ourselves tangled in the

ocean of Samsara. In conclusion, the 'I thought' that - "I am the

doer; I am a separate entity from the Lord; and I win, lose and

suffer" is responsible for the failure of our meditation.

 

Warmest regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

advaitin, saurabh ananda <saurabh_ananda>

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> Dear friends

>

> I am delighted to see your helpful replies and I

thank you all for giving me guidance. Here I want to share how I

meditate. If you can suggest some better ways then please tell me.

>

> I meditate that all this world is full of krishna and every person

and being I see is Krishna. and I try to say to myself that i am

nobody and only krishna is there.

>

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the human mind through the senses is too distracted with the objects

it experiences in the external world. for the normal man due to this

distraction, over the years, he loses touch with his inner self.

 

meditation is nothing but the process of turning away from the

external and focusing the mind internally back to its source.

 

thus also the equation between jnaanis and small children.

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Namaste Saurabh ! I am equally perplexed by Prakriti/Leela but I

suggest you read Papaji's interview on realization.org. Constant

"Bhagwat Chintan" will develop your ability to be thoughtless without

much "effort". When thoughtless, you can draw upon the "infinite

reservoir of bliss" (to quote Prof VK).

 

Hari OM !

Shailendra

 

advaitin, saurabh ananda <saurabh_ananda> w

> some people say that this world is Lord's play (leela) and He

himself is the efficient and material cause of it. so it's just fun

for him and that we are just playing with him.

>

> so I request you to help me organize my thoughts in meditation and

what should be the line in which I should think.

>

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The message has been edited and only the barest essentials included.

Those who wish to pursue this may visit the links given in the message.

 

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SIMPLIFIED KUNDALINI YOGA :MY EXPERIENCE

Iam 50 now

 

 

Vedathri Maharishi, who is living in Tamilnadu, India

is my GURU.

 

WORLD COMMUNITY SERVICE

CENTERS.

 

I joined one of the centers in chennai, Tamilnadu.

 

 

Hence my Guru had conducted various

research on this spiritual field,

 

eventually found a new system of yoga meditation

called Simplified Kundalini Yoga.

 

To know more about SKY plz visit

www.vethathiri.org

 

Service Center of my Guru:

 

I want to share my experiences with people who are in

need of spiritual quest.

 

That is why I have started a group in the and

MSN

 

I have presented some of my visuals as drawings and

cosmic communication

 

as messages

 

my url

spiritualneed/

 

and

 

http://groups.msn.com/spiritualneed

 

 

namasivayam

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- saurabh ananda <saurabh_ananda wrote:

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> Dear friends

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Namaste Samant Saurabh,

 

meditation is a "very fast" waking up....(i remember this definition

by Osho...)

if your meditation is realy deep....you make direct experience of

yourSelf....

the Self has no more "moving mind"...no more thoughts....

you are "absorbed" in your real Self...and by your Self....

....without "moving mind"....you become what you realy ARE.....and

ever have been...

 

as i wrote in the past email concerning meditation....it's necessary

to learn a "technique" to enter in meditation....

 

meditation is not the mind...."imagine something"...

 

i know...it's difficult to concentrate...and to keep on being

concentrated....

and also....concentrated on "what"....?...

 

once i learned the "kriya yoga meditation technique"....it's an

effectif technique to enter more and more in meditation...

Paramahamsa Yogananda used this technique.....and i learned it by my

Guru Paramahamsa Hariharananda.....(www.kriya.org)

 

don't worry what "some people" tell.....

endless different opinions concerning "what is meditation" and if

it's necessary...and so on....

 

listen to your heart....and if you feel to practice....do it...

 

Regards and love

 

Marc

 

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin, saurabh ananda <saurabh_ananda>

wrote:

>

>

> Dear friends

>

> I am delighted to see your helpful replies and I

thank you all for giving me guidance. Here I want to share how I

meditate. If you can suggest some better ways then please tell me.

>

> I meditate that all this world is full of krishna and every person

and being I see is Krishna. and I try to say to myself that i am

nobody and only krishna is there.

>

> But sometimes the feeling comes that how can krishna be so sad and

miserable and at other places how can he be cruel and wicked.

>

> Though I literally know that its all maya superposition on brahma

but i am not able to convince myself.

>

> So what should i do and how should I meditate so that I can realize

that all is krishna or brahma.

>

> some people say that this world is Lord's play (leela) and He

himself is the efficient and material cause of it. so it's just fun

for him and that we are just playing with him.

>

> so I request you to help me organize my thoughts in meditation and

what should be the line in which I should think.

>

> Regards

>

> Samant Saurabh

>

>

>

> India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

>

>

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Namaste

 

Dear Saurabh and all, I have been away from the advaitin postings

for long and I thought I should catch up. I opened the postings and

the first thing that struck me was Saurabh's question on

meditation: "How to meditate and arrive at the conviction that all

is brahman". Ramchandranji, Dennisji and others have replied

appropriately.

 

I would like to add the following for Saurabh's attention.

 

"na kimcid-api cintayet" says the Lord ( Gita VI-25). It

means `Don't think about anything'. Recall the vedic

passage `yasmAt paraM naaparam-asti kimcit'; and recall the words of

the Gita: `mattaH para-taraM nAnyat kimcid-asti dhananjaya'.

 

So "na kimcid-api cintayet" does not mean that you think about the

void. It appears therefore that one has to think about the Atman.

But it does not make sense to say `Think about the Atman';

for `Atman' is not an object to be thought about. The purport is to

say that the thinking process should stop. You be what you are. You

are different from your thoughts. Don't be your thoughts. Be

yourself. That is the meaning of `na kimcid-api cintayet'. If you

are sufficiently patient and just keep watching the thoughts come by

and disappear one by one, and if you are careful not to get involved

in any of those thoughts, that is what is meant by the usual

Vedantic expression: `Be a witness only of your thoughts'. This

path-breaking shloka of Krishna says this in the form of a

combination of two expressions: `na kimcid-api cintayet' and `Atma-

samstham manaH kRtvA'. Resting the mind in the Atman should not be

mistaken as implying a physical transposition of something in space

of two spatial objects. Atman is everywhere; placing the mind in

the Atman simply means recognising only the Atman as present and not

the mind. When such a negation of the mind takes place, that is when

we are what we are. That is the real `I'.

 

Question: Still the concept of `Not thinking about anything' seems

to be an impossibility. How would it ever occur?

 

That is where the artifice of a mantra-japa comes in. It is japa

that anchors the mind. It is japa that can prevent the mind from

wandering. All ascetics recommend ......

 

The discussion goes on like this. The above is only an extract from

the following web page:

 

 

http://www.geocities.com/profvk/livehappily_4.html

 

This chapter (Chapter 4) in the book "Live happily the Gita Way"

(under publication) attempts to answer some of your elementary

questions on meditation.

 

PraNAms to all advaitins.

profvk

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