Intellectual understanding vs direct realization? All-encompassing advaita

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Namaste All.

 

If we pick a blade of grass or a piece of dirt

lying on the street and look thru it thru a

microscope, we will be amazed at the beauty and wonder

it would exhibit.

All its internal wonderful details at a micro level

cloning the macro worlds, would seem to

suggest what Einstein stated that after all,

God does not play dice...that these may not be

random phenomena but well and meticulously

crafted universe to the minutest detail.

 

Why the dirt piece exhibits so much beauty ?

It is because it proceeded from God alone...

 

gita 8:18

In the beginning(at the approach of Brahma's day),

all the manifestations proceed

from the unmanifested and at the approach of

Brahma's night, they merge into the unmanifested.

 

For the energy transformation within the manifested

domain, we have E=mc**2.

 

We do not yet have a similar mathematical

quantification

for the energy transformation from the unmanifested

to the manifested to address 8:18 above.

.. ...may be some day in future it will be clear..

 

whether there is such an equation...?

 

gita 9:4

All this world is pervaded by Me in My

unmanifested form: all beings exist in Me,

but I do not dwell in them...

 

15:7

An eternal portion of Myself having

become a living soul in the world of life,

draws (to itself) the (5) senses with mind

for the sixth, abiding in Prakriti.

 

The formula, if any, must address all of above

and many more from gita, of course.

9:4, 15:7 will be very tricky to address.

 

Advaita taking into its folds, everything as

one undivided unity with internal transformations,

suggests that the formula may come some day.

 

4:24

Offering is brahman,

oblation as clarified butter is brahman,

offered by brahman in the fire of brahman,

by seeing brahman in action,he reaches brahman alone.

 

11:20

This space between heaven & earth and all quarters

are filled by Thee alone.

 

Why all-encompassing?

11:20 thru a single atom of a blade of grass forms

one undivided unity;

Like a dreamer's dream, the castles in the dream along

with the dreamer and mind are all one undivided whole

although they are swapna-tulyam and

non-existent worth negating by neti-neti or worth

the divinity by iti-iti...they all form one undivided

whole.

- and hence all-encompassing.

 

The above is posted in general and in specific to

clarify Shree BhaskarJi previous query for

completeness-

>Kindly clarify what exactly is this

>*all encompassing advaita*

 

Love and Kind regards,

Raghava

 

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The above is posted in general and in specific to

clarify Shree BhaskarJi previous query for

completeness-

 

praNAms Sri Raghava prabhuji

Hare Krishna

 

Thanks a lot for taking time to clarify my doubts...

 

Raghava prabhuji:

 

Like a dreamer's dream, the castles in the dream along

with the dreamer and mind are all one undivided whole

although they are swapna-tulyam and

non-existent worth negating by neti-neti or worth

the divinity by iti-iti...they all form one undivided

whole.

 

bhaskar :

 

Thanks again for bringing in the avasthA traya prakriya here...it clearly

shows that Atman is avasthAtIta ..all the three states are svapna-s only

from the paramArthika view point..Hence shruti's assertion *tasya traya

avasthA trayi svapnAH*..

 

Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!

bhaskar

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Namaste All.

 

Raghava:-

Like a dreamer's dream, the castles in the dream along

with the dreamer and mind are all one undivided whole

although they are swapna-tulyam and non-existent worth

negating by neti-neti or worth the divinity by

iti-iti...they all form one undivided whole.

 

Shree Bhaskar replied:-

Thanks again for bringing in the avasthA traya

prakriya here...it clearly shows that Atman is

avasthAtIta ..all the three states are svapna-s only

from the paramArthika view point..

Hence shruti's asssertion

*tasya traya avasthA trayi svapnAH*..

 

 

Raghava:-

Thanks Bhaskar prabhuji for clarification about the

paramArthika view in this context.

 

Regards,

Raghava

 

 

 

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Namaste All.

 

References:

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>Hence shruti's asssertion from the paramArthika

>view point *tasya traya avasthA trayi svapnAH*..

 

Please refer Shree Frank-Ji's post:-

http://www.escribe.com/culture/advaitin/m24405.html

 

I have extracted portions I liked very much:-

 

"anirvachaniya and thus, parabrahmam is a mystery"

 

"It is not at all correct to say that advaitins or

shankara deny the existence of the world or that they

call it unreal. On the other hand, it is more real to

them than to others. Their world will always

exist, whereas to others the world will have origin,

growth and decay, and as such cannot be real. All is

Brahman, nothing exists but Brahman, and the world as

Brahman is real. [...] "

 

"'mayavadin' doesn't mean he teaches that maya is

mithya; quite the contrary, he is a *supporter* of the

phenomenon of maya! maya, according to sankara, is

equally anirvachaniya as well

as nir-adi and nir-anta (without beginning or end). "

 

"the solution of the Mystery would spell the

existential death of Love, Beauty, and Truth Itself.

truly (as the theosophists say) the Mind is the slayer

of the Real! "

 

Love & Regards,

Raghava

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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