Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Jai Jai Ram Krshna Hari Vithal Pandurang, Pranam and deep gratitude to all members on this website where I have learned sruti from all of you.There is a marathi abhang apt here,"Dhanya aji din jale santache darshan",_I am blessed to have seen/been in the company of great sages.Namaste Dr.RaviShivdeji, I joined this website only after hearing about it from you, in Trasi's emails. Apologies for using terminology of physics and neurology,but hope this helps. Here is my ignorant ant's eye view from the lotus at the feet of My Guru looking up, hoping for sharanagati . This is only a theoretical construct to describe vivarta process.It is enough to understand that false is false_ to see that everything is a dream( for how can a part of a theory do any seeing or theorising about Aja or vivarta process?).Suppose in an incorrect approximation we describe everything satasat as surreal, as that which does not have real quantum values when measured i.e they have complex valued observables. Yet, what we perceive appears to have real values in quantum and classical measurements.Moving the surreal quantum protoself detector A at the instant of it's unfolding to a location at asymptotic infinity from the surreal quantum system B, gives a conscious coreself (Perceiver) who assigns real eigenvalues to system B (Perceived)_ using the quantum blackhole information paradox approach of t'Hooft and Suskind. In Suddhavidya [or the lower self independent ] interpretation of a separate metaobserver called Higher Self (Satchitanand observer dependent interpretation) where the hamiltonian is:Subsystem 1 consisting nonintegrable action for satasat objects appearing(W1SS1) + nonintegrable action for W2( bulk degrees of satasat quantum blackholes) +Subsystem 2 consists of nonintegrable action for satasat microtubule/neuron switching network in our brain W1SS2 +The satasat environment is everything else written as nonintegrable quantum gravity action.To describe what a 'lower self or separated i sees' the metaobserver (Higher Self) must identify and become a part of the environment.This is the observer dependent transformation where Self reaches out thru' the senses and identifies with a part of environment and becomes B, resulting in Crane_Rovelli many perspective interpretation of quantum mechanics( or Zeilinger loss of information gage).Due to this transformation a part of subsystem 1 i.e W1SS1 becomes a part of environment.W2 also becomes a part of environment. It appears as if Samvit shakti uniquely selects this gage transformation in which observers mutually agree _known as Chaitanya gage in Vedanta Paribhasa, because this unfolding is the illusionary leela of Isvara, which instantaneously becomes the perceiver and perceived.In quant-phy/9512021,'A 2d noncritical string(Liouville) approach to brain microtubule state vector reduction', describes the 'effective mental world' consisting of global (non-local) stringy states, where there is a coupling of global blackhole W2 modes to propagating modes W1SS1 and W1SS2 ( effective dimmer states of microtubules), but science is just an approximation here and there is need for apavada.Please refer to Vedanta Paribhasa interpretation (BinaGupta), delightful masterpieces AdvaitManjari(KSji), CNji's essay, appearance in Consciousness by Goodeji et al, on this list and elsewhere Journal Of Cognitive Science(protoself/coreself),.Apologies for using this difficult langauge and may Gurudev and advaitins forgive any errors and correct them. And now to silence.. aum namah shivaya guru satchitanandmuthaye Parijnanashram SriGuru Shankar Parjnanashram Shankar Sadguru Keshav Vaman Krsna Pandurang Anand Parijnan Sadyojat Shankar SadGuru. with love, regard and salutations to all Dilip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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