Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Samadhi If we are going to give Advaita any credit or worth then the most fundamental thing it has to tell us: there is no duality. There is no “two.” Advaita tells us that there is only the nameless and formless Singularity called Reality, Self, Atman, OM. This Reality is very simply: the thoughtless-samadhi of dreamless-sleep. This thoughtless-samadhi is the proper noun Samadhi. This Samadhi is an ocean of unfathomable JOY in which the universe is not even an imaginary-drop. The universe is not even an imaginary-drop because it is nothing but thoughts. In Reality, the Samadhi of dreamless-sleep, there are no thoughts. To try and visualize/imagine this Samadhi think of the most awake state you can imagine. Then imagine how much unfathomable JOY this utterly awake state has to be to make the universe and everything in it into literally NOTHING – not even one thought. The only thing other than the Reality called Self, Samadhi, is thoughts. Thoughts, however, do not count as part of a duality because they are Nothing. Thoughts come out of Nothing and return into the same Nothing to be Nothing. We might want to argue that bleeding-bodies and broken-bones are more than just thoughts but that is exactly what the mind thinks in its sleep-dreams when/where they have to be thoughts. Start adding thoughts to the Reality of Samadhi, dreamless-sleep, and you have all sorts of diluted samadhis that even more thoughts dilute into Kundalini and sphurana and everything else the mind can imagine … all the way to the words disease, devil and death. But all these words are just thoughts that keep the mind, these thoughts, blind and deaf to the Reality of unfathomable JOY called Samadhi that no mind, thoughts, can possibly understand, not even in its most wildest dreams. -=- The moment we think that this Samadhi is not the Atman, Self, that Advaita tells us about then that very moment this thinking has created a duality. With this duality the “not-two” of Advaita becomes meaningless so we might as well throw it, Advaita, out the proverbial window so that we can then worry about the more important things, like the devil (the mind) and its heaven and hell. gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Hello GP and All, thank you for your message about Samadhi... i believe that indeed...there are no thoughts in Samadhi....there is only Being maybe Samadhi just happen....without any special reason....except to come out of a dream... to come out of dream.......of the ego-mind.....i think that one need to loose the ego....by good Karma....or by any grace or chance.... as long there is identification with this body mind intellect.....and so attachment to it......there is ego mind.....a dual world......means, a dream world..... a dream world which is limited by time and space....and so "Unreal" comparing with Brahman, the infinite truth. The Self let appear all the necessary "tools" to come out of dream (ego-mind) if there is the wish to come out of it sometimes it seem that people even don't have the wish to "wake up"..... why there is fear to follow the inner Self......? is there fear to loose the ego-mind by entering in deep meditation....or to just enter in real Self....in Samadhi? there is nothing to loose.....except few illusions.....included the one of identification with body mind intellect maybe it's true that one enter and go out again of Samadhi...as long there is still some attachments to the dream-world. for a spiritual mind......and so, a "focused" mind on infinite truth Brahman, appearence of some scriptures....Gurus....words.....books...... are like a gift....... an open door....to go out of the cage....... to destroy some Karma...to Be what one IS many good words and messages here in advaitin-Group which let appear an infinite "world".....and Being Regards peace and love enjoy Consciousness...... Marc advaitin, Gee Pee <gpalotas> wrote: > > > Samadhi > > If we are going to give Advaita any credit or worth then the most fundamental thing it has to tell us: there is no duality. There is no "two." > > Advaita tells us that there is only the nameless and formless Singularity called Reality, Self, Atman, OM. This Reality is very simply: the thoughtless-samadhi of dreamless-sleep. This thoughtless-samadhi is the proper noun Samadhi. > > This Samadhi is an ocean of unfathomable JOY in which the universe is not even an imaginary-drop. The universe is not even an imaginary- drop because it is nothing but thoughts. In Reality, the Samadhi of dreamless-sleep, there are no thoughts. > > To try and visualize/imagine this Samadhi think of the most awake state you can imagine. Then imagine how much unfathomable JOY this utterly awake state has to be to make the universe and everything in it into literally NOTHING – not even one thought. > > The only thing other than the Reality called Self, Samadhi, is thoughts. > > Thoughts, however, do not count as part of a duality because they are Nothing. Thoughts come out of Nothing and return into the same Nothing to be Nothing. > > We might want to argue that bleeding-bodies and broken-bones are more than just thoughts but that is exactly what the mind thinks in its sleep-dreams when/where they have to be thoughts. > > Start adding thoughts to the Reality of Samadhi, dreamless-sleep, and you have all sorts of diluted samadhis that even more thoughts dilute into Kundalini and sphurana and everything else the mind can imagine … all the way to the words disease, devil and death. > > But all these words are just thoughts that keep the mind, these thoughts, blind and deaf to the Reality of unfathomable JOY called Samadhi that no mind, thoughts, can possibly understand, not even in its most wildest dreams. > > -=- > > The moment we think that this Samadhi is not the Atman, Self, that Advaita tells us about then that very moment this thinking has created a duality. > > With this duality the "not-two" of Advaita becomes meaningless so we might as well throw it, Advaita, out the proverbial window so that we can then worry about the more important things, like the devil (the mind) and its heaven and hell. > gp > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Dear Gee Pee, I think your essays on Samadhi and Maya are excellent... easy to understand and fun to read.... Thanks Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 advaitin, ls691035@m... wrote: > > > Dear Gee Pee, > > I think your essays on Samadhi and Maya are excellent... easy to understand and fun to read.... > > Thanks > > > Ana =============================== Namaste Ana I am not the thoughts that make my hands write. These thoughts come from the depths and Silence of meditation and then hound me until my hands have to write, and then keep rewriting until I often have to laugh with disbelief at all these words/thoughts that my mind can barely understand. If you can understand these words my hands write then you are probably more awake than I am. LOVE gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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