Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Namste to all, I would appreciate answers to this one very important question i forgot to ask earliar. ""Is it necessary/mandatory/compulsory for a Guru to be in bodily/physical form infront of a shishya/disciple OR a master/acharya/swami who has left His mortal coils far-far ago can also be accepted and served as a Sad-Guru ?"" I know practically the former choice is ideal but is the latter option sufficient too in its own respect ? thanks, ~akshay~ Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2005 Report Share Posted June 4, 2005 Namaste Akshay-Ji: Normally yes but in reality no !!. Ultimately you have to become your own Guru. shrimad bhaagava tells us a clear message - aatmano guruaatmaiva puruShasya visheShataH || 11.7.20 || Meaning - The aatmaa itself is indeed the infallible guide of one's own self. Same chapter (This often known as Yadu-Avadhuuta conversation (11.7.33-34))also describes various guru's of "avadhuuta" that include the following: The Earth, Sky, Water, Fire, The Moon, Then Sun, The Dove, the Boa constrictor, The Sea, The Moth, The Osprey, The Honey bee, The elephant, The Honey gatherer, The deer, the Fish, Pingala (a courtesans), the infant, The maiden (kumaarikaa), the forger of arrows, the serpent, the spider and the Bhringa (a kind of wasp). He further says he learned a lot from all of them and thus considers them as his Guru's. Samartha raamadaasa devotes a complete samaas in his daasabodha and one need to comprehend what our sages have said. Hope this helps and does not confuse you further. IMHO - You never find a Guru, it the Guru who finds you and wake's up the guru in you. Regards and best wishes, Dr. Yadu advaitin, Akshay Chawla <shriakshay> wrote: > > Namste to all, > I would appreciate answers to this one very > important question i > forgot to ask earliar. > ""Is it necessary/mandatory/compulsory for a Guru to > be in bodily/physical form infront of a > shishya/disciple OR a master/acharya/swami who has > left His mortal coils far-far ago can also be > accepted > and served as a Sad-Guru ?"" > I know practically the former choice is ideal but is > the latter option sufficient too in its own respect ? > > thanks, > ~akshay~ > > > > > Discover > Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! > http://discover./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Akshayji Shree Yaduji answered your question beautifully. Here is my understanding. He who is mature enough he will find his Guru in himself. But for those who need lot more guidance, Lord himself will come the in different forms to help him, as long as he is open to sat sangh. What is necessary from the part of the disciple is take advantage of whatever sat sangh that is availabe and that part is the necessary part. As the mind evolves the guru is discovered who is conducive to his growth. That is His responsibility. To answer your question, is it necessary to be in bodily form - it is not necessary but it is helpful, as Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi says. Hari OM! Sadananda --- Akshay Chawla <shriakshay wrote: > ""Is it necessary/mandatory/compulsory for a Guru to > be in bodily/physical form infront of a > shishya/disciple OR a master/acharya/swami who has > left His mortal coils far-far ago can also be > accepted > and served as a Sad-Guru ?"" > I know practically the former choice is ideal but is > the latter option sufficient too in its own respect ? > > thanks, > ~akshay~ > > > > > Discover > Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! > http://discover./ > > > What you have is destiny and what you do with what you have is self-effort. Future destiny is post destiny modified by your present action. You are not only the prisoner of your past but master of your future. - Swami Chinmayananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Namaste Akshay Definitely the ideal is a Guru in Human form but the Guru and His/Her Grace is not limited to the Human form. The Guru's Grace may find its way to the deserving disciple even without the physical form. Here is a heart-warming story of a Hungarian who 'found' her Guru long after the physical death of the Guru!: http://www.ramana-maharshi.org/downloads/novdec04.pdf This just one example, I am sure there are many others in our scriptures etc regards Sundar Rajan > I know practically the former choice is ideal but is > the latter option sufficient too in its own respect ? > > thanks, > ~akshay~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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