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advaitin, "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote in

 

http://www.escribe.com/culture/advaitin/m26081.html

>

> Now to NS. It is good that you are questioning, statements by Sages

> even. However you are not looking into the background and lead up to

> these statements. This is what I call Vndism or 'verbal non

> dualism 'without Sadhana. Much cleansing of mind sheaths is required

> through Sadhana to be able to realise what one already has an

> inkling of. Even Ramana alludes to a certain mental maturity to be

> able to even wish to practice self enquiry.

>

> You are right in what you say but you are ignoring the fact it is

> mind talking and full of samskaras and vasanas, which have to be

> totally removed and Vindism won't cut it.............ONS...Tony.

 

Namaste Tony-ji,

 

Without agreeing or disagreeing with you on what constitues 'verbal

nondualism' I like your coinage of the word 'verbal non-dualism'

because this becomes a familiar involuntary habit with most of us who

have heard (*shravana*) a little about advaita , practised (*manana*)

less of the same, and tasted (*nididhyasana*) still less of it! This

habit is one more VAsanA which we have to get over with!

 

PraNAms to all advaitins.

profvk

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Namaste profvk,

You're right about needing to "get 'over'" things. We all need

objectivity. Some Christians, ironically, become quite proud of their

great humilty. The doctrinaire comes to love 'his' doctrine;

forgeting that it was never more than a pointing finger. Sadhana

too, enhances the pride of the proficient. Pride in accomplishment

can lead to snobbery and giving insult by disparaging the lesser

exertions and mileage of others.

 

I admit that I am a nothing and a nobody. No insult taken. But

please, guard yourself from doing harm to yourself. We must be

generous of spirit, and humble of accomplishment, and a wise fellow

will win many worthy friends--excluding none to please others.

Your friend, and Self, NS

 

 

advaitin, "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk>

wrote:

> advaitin, "Tony OClery" <aoclery> wrote

in

>

> http://www.escribe.com/culture/advaitin/m26081.html

>

> >

> > Now to NS. It is good that you are questioning, statements by

Sages

> > even. However you are not looking into the background and lead up

to

> > these statements. This is what I call Vndism or 'verbal non

> > dualism 'without Sadhana. Much cleansing of mind sheaths is

required

> > through Sadhana to be able to realise what one already has an

> > inkling of. Even Ramana alludes to a certain mental maturity to

be

> > able to even wish to practice self enquiry.

> >

> > You are right in what you say but you are ignoring the fact it is

> > mind talking and full of samskaras and vasanas, which have to be

> > totally removed and Vindism won't cut it.............ONS...Tony.

>

> Namaste Tony-ji,

>

> Without agreeing or disagreeing with you on what constitues 'verbal

> nondualism' I like your coinage of the word 'verbal non-dualism'

> because this becomes a familiar involuntary habit with most of us

who

> have heard (*shravana*) a little about advaita , practised

(*manana*)

> less of the same, and tasted (*nididhyasana*) still less of it!

This

> habit is one more VAsanA which we have to get over with!

>

> PraNAms to all advaitins.

> profvk

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