Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Hi Dennis, YOU WROTE: This idea is a misunderstanding. No, there never has been anything new created. There is just the continual, ever-changing, ever-new, yet always the same. Simply different names and forms of the non-dual reality. Bangles changing into bracelets but always still gold. To this extent, the neo-Advaitins have always been right - This is it! Already. VENKAT You have classified books by a few western authors as 'Modern Advaita' on your website. I particularly have Leo Hartong in mind. I am presently reading his 'Awakening to the Dream'. I recently also read Joan Tollifson's 'Awake in the Heartland'. Both books are excellent and present the advaitic view point with tremedous clarity though not professing to be talking about advaita. Would you call these authors as neo-advaitins? If so and since you say above 'to this extent neo-advaitins have always been right', where exactly is it that these neo-advaitins go wrong? Many thanks and regards, Venkat. Dennis Waite <dwaite wrote: Hi Maniji, ajAtivAda - the theory that nothing has ever been born; that there literally has not been any creation - does not mean that, upon realization, everything disappears. Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PCcalling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Hi Venkat, <<I particularly have Leo Hartong in mind. I am presently reading his 'Awakening to the Dream'. I recently also read Joan Tollifson's 'Awake in the Heartland'. Both books are excellent and present the advaitic view point with tremedous clarity though not professing to be talking about advaita. Would you call these authors as neo-advaitins? If so and since you say above 'to this extent neo-advaitins have always been right', where exactly is it that these neo-advaitins go wrong?>> Leo would have to be classified as Neo-Advaita, I guess, though the quintessential Neo- advocates are Tony Parsons, Nathan Gill and Roger Linden. All of these have some good things to say and Leo's book in particular is indeed excellent. Effectively, they attempt to 'describe' paramArtha and mostly refuse outright to acknowledge the apparent 'existence' of vyavahAra. They do not recognize the person or ignorance so therefore there is no seeker, teacher, path (progressive or otherwise) etc. In all of this, they are not actually saying anything new, since Shankara, Ramana et al have all said it before. The incongruity comes from the fact they are writing about it and holding satsangs, both obviously very much in the realm of vyavahAra! So they can never be true to their message since, as soon as they open their mouths, they give lie to it. I think it is not long ago that the group discussed neo-Advaita so you may find answers to any other queries you might have in the archives. Best wishes, Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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