clarification

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Dear Sir,

 

Compare the varying degrees of sleep one gets. Disturbed sleep is rembered after

waking and inpspite of the fact that deepsleeep cannot be remebered, there is

the statement that sleep got disturbed. However if either after being tired, or

after a good swaur meal, one sleeps like a log for six hours, and slowly gets

up, not suddenly, at that split second every being is inthe Self. Memory

operates and waking consciousness starts and the daily activities begin. This is

something akin to it. The pleasantnes is without words, showing that very few

cells being active in the Brain for the purposes of bodily activities and

actions of the various organs perhaps retains the memory of the bliss of the

sleep. The very split second when man goes off to sleep with a jerk and while

getting up, are those moments which are indescribable but some how retained. I

have discussed this matter with Brain Surgeons and Clinical Psychologists.

Little digression-the aged professor, was agahst to come to know

that the three states of waking dreaming and deep sleep are for the mind and

not for the body.Body sleeping means death. Take another example drinking water

soon after a grub, is different from drinking water when thirsty. The quenching

of thirst cannot be explained however much one may try todo? Likewise, taste of

coffee, or tea can be explained to those who consume it. But what plesantness it

causes can never be explained. All rasAswadha is of the nature of a Satori

only-cannot be explained. That is why it is said the Supreme Self cannot be seen

either optically or in the mind, becasue it is at it's back. To see the Self, is

to be the Self. There is no seeing therein, but only Being. I do request you to

make enquiries, and to the best of my knowledge let me relate it. In my

profession I have come across these personages. Next time be personal. I hope I

have been sucesful. If I have failed please do intimate me.

 

Thanks a lot

 

Pranams

 

JS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

When I was in a non-dual state, "I" was "there" all the time. I saw

the body going to sleep, the dreams, and even the body when there is

no dreams, there are sensations, but there is no memory about them.

Somehow, normal, everyday consciousness is like being sleeping.

 

Now it seems so distant, that was 11 years ago. But I still have the

sensation that "I" was awake 24 hours a day.

 

So many years "outside" the non-dual experience make me doubt. Oh well.

 

Manuel Delaflor

_________

Thinking is what a great many people think they are doing

when they are simply rearranging their prejudices

 

-William James

[Guest guest]

advaitin, Manuel Delaflor <delaflor@g...> wrote:

> When I was in a non-dual state, "I" was "there" all the time.

 

Namaste,

 

In your non dual state?, what was looking at what?.......ONS..Tony.

[Guest guest]

> On 8/6/05, Tony OClery <aoclery wrote:

> In your non dual state?, what was looking at what?.......ONS..Tony.

 

In "there"? nothing. Remember that I only can talk about "there" from

here, from this current "ego-world state" All that it was "there2 was

"THAT", permanently, the body could go to sleep or being awake, "THAT"

was always present. Thats the best way I can put it in words.

 

 

_________

Thinking is what a great many people think they are doing

when they are simply rearranging their prejudices

 

-William James