Guest guest Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 Dear Vijay Your name suggests victory. How do yu achieve it? be in the present. Why bother about personages and past. I invite you into Geetha Chapter 11 verse 32. Lord has already killed Bhishma, Jayadratha, and Karna. He asks Arjuna to take arms and use it so that already dead are physically terminated. Why He did not show the death of Abhimanyu and Ghatotkacha. Had he shown Arjuna who had thrown down the arms whould have run away even throwing down his Kavacha and Keerata. Would you explain?. All the best. JS vijay2002new2002 <vijay2002new2002 wrote: This is my first post/reply and I would like to thank the moderators and members for giving me an opportunity to participate in the discussions. From the responses I can see that the members are very knowledgeable and a lot of them seem to be subject matter experts. As far as my intro, I have always been interested in Advaita Vedanta and the teachings of the Buddha and I am a regular practitioner of Vipassana. I have several unanswered questions and I hope I can get answers for those in this forum. I would also be sharing my thoughts on certain topics. Sri Bhikku-yogi ji wrote: "I have heard that Sankara did not decry or condemn animal sacrifices, nor did he practice them... This is disturbing to us "Buddhists", because we are not supposed to kill animals at any cost." If I remember correctly, Buddha in one of his discussions mentioned that the Bhikkus may not eat meat if they know that the meat was specifically prepared for their consumption. > "Buddha, it must be remembered, refused always to discuss what was > beyond the world. But from the little he said it would appear that he > was aware of a Permanent beyond equivalent to the Vedantic Para- > Brahman, but which he was quite unwilling to describe." > > "The Buddhist Nirvana and the Adwaitin's Moksha are the same thing. > It corresponds to a realization in which one does not feel oneself > any longer as an individual with such a name or such a form, but an > infinite eternal Self spaceless (even when in space), timeless (even > when in time)." > > "It [Nirvana of Buddha] is the same [as Brahman Nirvana of the Gita]. > Only the Gita describes it as Nirvana in the Brahman while Buddha > preferred not to give any name or say anything about that into which > the Nirvana took place." > > Hopefully these help and you'll begin to see the essential unity of > the teachings of Lord Buddha and of Vedanta. I would like to add a few things to this discussion. Buddha refused to discuss/answer certain metaphycical questions as they were deemed ethically useless and intellectually uncertain and deliberations would be just speculations and would not yield any answers. According to Buddha the theory of conditional existence is very profound and he did not want anyone to miss its importance by diverting their focus to metaphysical discussions. Dr. Radhakrishnan and Rhys Davids have mentioned in their works that Buddha was born, brought up and died as a Hindu. Walpola Rahula once asked J Krishnamurti:- "Are you not saying what the Buddha said?" . Krishnamurti asked Walpola:- " May I ask, Sir, with due respect, why do you compare?". Walpola replied "There is no necessity to compare. Comparison is not necessary and not needed as The Teachings are The Teachings. The Dhamma is the Dhamma". These are the Teachings of Truth taught by Buddha,Shankara and others and has no copyright. We can engage ourselves in endless conversations and discussions about what Buddhism says and what Vedanta says, but IMHO the bottomline is, they are The Teachings and no comparions are required. The aim should be to absorb the essence of these Teachings and put them to practice. Vijay Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages Visit your group "advaitin" on the web. advaitin Check out India Rakhi Special for Rakhi shopping, contests and lots more. http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 List Moderator's Note: List wants to thank the members for their continued support to list policies and guidelines. Please do not include the previous posters' messages in the tail end (or in the beginning) of your message while sending your replies. Both the new members and other members do seem to continue to repeat doing this. The list appreciates your cooperation in keeping the message crisp and clear by removing all unnecessary parts of previous messages. (As it was done in this message!) Hi Vijay One can persue, what he feels as right, and it is alone the right (Manduka Nyaya) till he compares, discusses with others. It is not at all to say that any body is right. It is Giving the work to our minds(Thapas), to understand this magnificiant universe. To bring out the truth I am of the opinion that it needs to be discussed. If shankara hadn't discussed and clarfied many things with the others we wouldn't have had such a base for Advaita.Butduring this course we need to understand one thing, discussions or comparisons are for knowledge not for Humuns. When we shed our ego's and sit for discovering that devine truth, there will be no way that any party will feel bad as the Joy of knowldge will be far greater than Aham. I sometimes feel very bad that unfortunately we are not having much discossions on these subjects to understand the ultimate. About issue of eating the meat, I think Shankara didn't do it because, he was never invoved in the worldy mayas. People do lot of things, some knowing as wrong, some unknowingly. He realized rather than to teach what is wrong to the people Shankara went out teach what is the Right Path, and the path is very simple to realize youself as God. If You are in that stage You will not eat for the sake of tounge but for the sake of stomach. Prahlada says, what can be sweeter than the Name of Govinda. I think Shankara went out to show the right path rather than pointing wrong things what people are doing This is as per my understanding, after reading of shankara vijaya, and other his nobel work. Any body can contadict me and I am always ready to learn Tat Sat. Prashanth.K On 8/11/05, jayantha srirama <jayanthasrirama wrote: > > Dear Vijay > Your name suggests victory. How do yu achieve it? be in the present. Why > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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