Guest guest Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 Hi All, I have been searching the internet for the source of the Sanskrit saying "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati". All the web sites I found just explain the meaning of the saying without actually providing the source of it. If any one of you know the source of it (what Veda, what Upanishad, what Bhashya etc ), please post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Namaste: Your assessment that the source of the Sanskrit saying: "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati" is not available in the internet is quite correct. It is my opinion, that this saying as quoted is not directly from the scripture. First, the slogan, "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati" is widely used by the Sathya Sai followers and institutions associated to Sri Sathya Sai. The followers truly believe that whatever Sri Sathya Sai says that will become the reality. In India lots of social welfare activities have been initiated and successfully completed by Sathya Sai organizations. This strengthens the beliefs and the followers were able to keep strong conviction to Sri Sathya Sai's words, and obey and complete the tasks and work ordained by him. It should be pointed out that the statement, "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati" can become truthful provided that the words come with the `Divine Blessings.' In other words, this is conditional and this statement will become the reality to those who have attained highest point of spiritual maturity. In the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, the verse (chapter 1;18) states the following: prthivyai cainam agnes ca daiva vag avisati, sa vai daiva vag, yaya yad yad eva vadati, tad tad bhavati. Here is the interpretation by Swami Krishnananda: Source: http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/brdup/brhad_I-05e.html "The speech becomes divine, the mind becomes divine, and the Prana also becomes divine thereby, due to which the capacity of spoken words increases infinitely, because the limitations imposed upon speech by its connection with the present body are lifted on account of the practice of this meditation. Thus, here, the divine speech enters the person, which means to say that speech becomes an expression of a cosmic intention. Sa vai daiva, vag, yaya yad yad eva vadati, tad tad bhavati: What do you mean by divine speech as differentiated from ordinary speech? Generally, words correspond to existent facts. We speak whatever is there in fact in the external world. When our expression corresponds to facts or situations in the world outside, then that form of speech is called true speech, otherwise it is false speech. The words, the utterances or the expressions should correspond to existing situations or things in the world. But, in divine speech, it is the other way round. Whatever one speaks should materialize as a fact in the other external world. The objects outside, the conditions or situations, are determined by the words uttered, not the reverse, as is the case with ordinary speech. When an expression takes place or a word is uttered or something is said by a person, that materializes on account of the cosmic power being there behind the word, which is also behind the object in regard to which the expression is made. There is a correspondence established, therefore, between the word uttered and the object to which it is directed. The correspondence is established by a common substratum which is behind the speech as well as the object. Such is the power of affiliation with superior dimensions of a more inclusive nature." The bottom line is that if we serve with the Divine Feelings, it is bound to yield Divine Results. Any Karma that is initiated and completed with the "Yagna Spirit" will be successful and beneficial to the entire society. If it fails, it is only because the "Kartha" did not have the Divine Feelings, Divine Support and the Divine Blessings! Harih Om! Ram Chandran advaitin, "Saradhi_Cheruvu" <saradhi_cheruvu> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have been searching the internet for the source of the Sanskrit > saying "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati". All the web sites I found just > explain the meaning of the saying without actually providing the > source of it. If any one of you know the source of it (what Veda, > what Upanishad, what Bhashya etc ), please post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <ramvchandran> wrote: > > Namaste: > > Your assessment that the source of the Sanskrit saying: "Yad Bhavam > Tad Bhavati" is not available in the internet is quite correct. It > is my opinion, that this saying as quoted is not directly from the > scripture. > Namaste, Is it possible that it is a modification of the 2nd RRik of Rig-veda X:90:ii (Purusha Sukta) ? yad bhUtaM yachcha bhavyam | Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Sunder-ji! i think your 'premise' is correct ! i sent this member a private email saying it may be from the Rig Veda but i was not 100 % sure because sai baba quoted this verse in a specific context ... here it is : "In the Ramayana, Rama symbolises Rig Veda. Lakshmana signifies Yajur Veda, which contains mantras chanted during the performance of yajnas and yagas. When Rama was away in the forest, Bharata stayed in Nandigrama singing His divine Name day in and day out. Hence, he symbolises Sama Veda. Satrughna was the one who annihilated the satrus (enemies) and protected the pious. He was obedient to his brothers. He stands for Atharvana Veda. The essence of Atharvana Veda lies in destroying wickedness and fostering sacred feelings and activities. " and then Sai baba went on to say " Bharata became like Rama " and quoted " yad bhavam tad bhavati" and in another place , baba says the Vedas declare " yad bhavam tad bhavati " thanks sunder-ji ! sometimes the vedas are quoted but not in the exact way in which they are written regards advaitin, "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh> wrote: > > advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <ramvchandran> > wrote: > > > > Namaste: > > > > Your assessment that the source of the Sanskrit saying: "Yad > Bhavam > > Tad Bhavati" is not available in the internet is quite correct. > It > > is my opinion, that this saying as quoted is not directly from the > > scripture. > > > > Namaste, > > Is it possible that it is a modification of the 2nd RRik of > Rig-veda X:90:ii (Purusha Sukta) ? > > yad bhUtaM yachcha bhavyam | > > > Regards, > > Sunder > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Namaste Sunderji: I agree that it is a modified version of a similar statement like the one you have quoted from the Rig-veda. Here are some more sayings similar to "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati," I want to share with all. In the very last verse of Gita, Sanjay declares the following (chapter 18, verse 76): "Yathara Yogeshwara, Krishno yathra Parto Dhanurdhara Thatra SreerVijaya Bhoothir Dhruva Neethir Madhir Mama." Wherever there is Krishna, the Lord of Yoga, wherever there is Arjuna, the archer, there are prosperity, happiness, victory and firm policy; such is my conviction. Here is another common saying (source unknown) Yathra Dharmo thatra Krishna Yathra Krishno thatra Jaya meaning, where there is Dharma, there is Krishna, where there is Krishna, there is victory It is said that whenever Sri Tulsidasji recited Ramayana he used to keep one of the front seats vacant and covered with silk cloth. He used to keep the seat for his Lord Anjaneya who in keeping with the saying "yathra yathra raghunatha keerthanam thathra thathra kruthamasthakanjalim" was sure to come for listening the Rama Charitham. To this day many kathakar follow this practice of keeping a seat for Lord Hanumanji when reciting Ramayana. It is an accepted fact that Sanskrit is a Divine language. In appearance we see pair of words `Yad – Tad' ( or equivalently `Yatra – Tatra') but in reality Tad is just a reflection of Yad! Whenever `Yad' appears with the Divine Presence `Yad' transforms into `Tad. When we have this conviction, then the following will be always true Yad Jiva Tad Brahman!! (With the blessings and Grace of the Lord) Harih Om! Ram Chandran advaitin, "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh> wrote: > > Is it possible that it is a modification of the 2nd RRik of > Rig-veda X:90:ii (Purusha Sukta) ? > > yad bhUtaM yachcha bhavyam | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indhar Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 should it have been "Yad Bhavam, tat bhavati"? "What(ever) you be, that you become". I know that the general usage tends to be "yad bhavam, tad bhavati" But somehow, I find that "tad" does not sit in well with the meaning of the word. But it sure does rhyme well with "yad". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranganathan N.R Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 sir, Anyway this saying is not from any upanishad. I have gone through all the upanishads and do not find this in any one. Thanks Ranganathan N.R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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