Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Thank you Kathiresan-ji ! You Are right ! It is obvious from the questions and comments made , King Janaka WAS an advanced seeker - already well sitauted in the path of Jnana and Karma ! However , in the ancient days this technique ( Dialogue between Guru and shishya ) was effectively employed to teach great scriptural truths ! Thus we have dialogue between Hayagriva and Agastya in sri Lalithoupakanyam , Between Sage Vasishta and Sri Rama in 'Yoga Vasishta ' etc- Here , chitta mentioned about 'adhikaratwam' - Yes! Preliminary qualifications ! sometimes, monologues are boring - hence those interjections by King Janaka ! in any case, at one point , Sage Ashtavakra says " My son, you may recite or listen to countless scriptures, but you will not be established within until you can forget everything." 16.1- Smile! This what sri Ramana bhagvan used to say to his disciples too ! "anyway, here is another story ! Enjoy ! Once King Janaka was sitting on the bank of a river , REpeating 'SOHAM' mantra at the top of his voice. Sage ASHTAVAKRA was passing by. the sage was a knower of truth and an enlightened being. He was surprised why king Janaka was chanting the mantra in this loud fashion. ASHTAVAKRA wanted to instruct King Janaka the proper way of chanting a mantra. SO, he sat down near King Janaka and chanting loudly, : ' "This is my Alms Bowl and this is my Yoga Stick " so much so that ASTHAVAKRA'S MANTRA DROWNED KING JANAKA'S MANTRA ! Now, King Janaka , not to be left behind starting chanting his 'SOHAM ' mantra even louder --- this went on for some time -both vyeing witH each other in this 'mantra recitation'.... now, King Janaka got really annoyed and asked asthavakra what the sage waS doing- the sage replied " i am repeating - this is my Alms bowl, this is my yoga stick. " King Janaka replied, " Have you lost your MIND? Who told you that the Alms bowl and the stick do not belong to you ? Why do you have to keep shouting about it.?" Sage ASHTAVAKRA replied , " O Mighty King ! It seems to me you are the one who lacks understanding. who told you that you are not 'THAT '? Why do you to go on shouting THAT 'i AM tHAT' ? 'SO HAM' ? When king Janaka heard this, he suddenly realized the truth- he understood that he need not go on repeating 'SO Ham' mantra , he only needed to understand it and practice 'living' it!!!!!!!! 'You are really unbound and actionless, self-illuminating and spotless already. The cause of your bondage is that you are still resorting to stilling the mind.' Ashtavakra Gita 1.15 after reading your post, i am reminded of what my grandma used to say ' Sivanasne Summa iru' ( tamil - if you do not know something just be quiet - may be applies to all who are still ignorant of the real meaning of 'Summa Iru' - 'be still' ! SMILE ! Life is short! love and blessings advaitin, K Kathirasan <brahmasatyam@g...> wrote: > > Namaste Adi Shaktiji, > > Thanks for sharing this story and about the Ashtavakra Gita. It may > not be accurate to say that King Janaka became a Karma Yogi or even a > Jnani after hearing the Gita. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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