Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Namaste, I see a tremendous discussion of topics peripherally related to Raju's paper, but very little on the paper itself. I will limit myself to discussing the paper itself, and those are the messages that will be posted on the blog at http://advaitamath.blogspot.com/ Raju says that the OET is the world of the "seen", where cause and effect sweep along inexorably. This is samsara, a big river that would seem to be carrying us helplessly along, if there were not an escape promised by the scriptures. The escape is in the "seer", the counterpart to the "seen", which is much neglected by modern science and materialistic philosophy in general, with its obsession with the seen. The seer thus merits a second vertical axis to complement the horizontal axis of the OET or seen. (Of course, the OET axis is multidimensional in its own right, with the 3 dimensions of space and one of time. I'm not so sure about the vertical axis of the Self. We'll see.) Now one question one might ask is whether the distinct axis of the seer or Self violates the advaitic unity of Brahman. Are seer and seen not ultimately identical? Perhaps "reality" is not even an axis but a mere point. Or even less. Is Brahman not "without parts"? To a considerable extent, this depends on whether we are speaking from the phenomenal or vyavaharika level or from the higher level of paramarthika. >From a spiritual point of view, Raju surely wishes to have another axis than samsara, or there would be no moksha. But bondage only exists from the level of ignorance, which seems to confirm what I said above. The quadrant enclosed by the two axes is called the Space of Experiences by Raju. The cause and effect chain of the horizontal axis becomes spreading waves in the quadrant. What does this mean? For one thing, each wave marks an instant of "cosmic time". (So don't think of time as being one of the axes, as an engineer or physicist might be inclined to do!) The origin is the beginning of creation, and from there the waves radiate. Each successive wave represents all possible states that might result from the preceding wave, considered as a cause. Only one of these possibilities becomes true on the OET axis, due to the will of Ishwara. Now one question immediately arises. Consider one such wave. It will be like a quarter-circle. The projection on the horizontal axis is well-determined by R cos(theta), where R is the radius of the wave and theta is the angle from the origin to some point on the wave. Thus each point of the wave is associated with one point on the horizontal OET axis, and it would seem that each moment of OET corresponds to one and only one possibility, assuming that each point along the circular wave represents a possible state. This would deny Ishwara's freedom, so I must be missing something. What do you say Raju? Hari Om! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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