Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Thank you Ram-ji for a very interesting post ! and Thank you Nair-ji for 'embellishing' the thread! There are '9' Planets = 9x1 - 9 avaranas in Sri Chakra - 9 vidhis in Puja etc etc There are '18' Puranas - 9x2=18 There are '36' Tattwas - 9x4=36 and then are 108 beads on a japa mala - 1+0+8 +9 and all gods/essesses have 108 names ! Let me reproduce here a humorous message that appeared in my group Brahmanshakti! Enjoy ! really_i_am" <really_i_am Wed Jul 31, 2002 1:36 pm Re: 108 names.... really_i_am Btw number 9 in hindu numerology represents the brahma-tattwa due to its similar behaviour. It does not change the root number(which is the sum total of all digits in a number, summed up again and again until a single digit number is arrived at) at all, quite very much similar to zero in this aspect. for eg.3486, 3+4+8+6=21=2+1=3 now if any number of nines or zeroes are added, it doesn't matter 34869, 3+4+8+6+9=30=3+0=3 and so on... Root number carries great significance in numerology and is supposed to express the basic(root) nature of any big number. So in fact all numbers can be boiled down to basically nine root numbers. In ancient India, arithmetic/philosophy/religion/science evolved simultaneously as simply jnana-vijnana. There appears to be very deep arithmetic/philosophy behind the intervening 8 root numbers between the zero and 9. Roughly speaking, zero is somewhat akin to the void mentioned in Buddhist philosophy or Shiva or "Purusha" in Samkhya-Darshan The number 9 being more closer to the concept of all pervading Shakthi or Prakriti. Both schools do however stress upon the sameness of the two, meaning that the void is actually all pervading and vice-versa similarly- Shiva-Shakthi(Ardhanareeshwara), Purusha-Prakriti etc... There is no end to characterising 0 and 9 variously indicating their sameness yet different. So then the nothingness of zero and the all pervasiveness of nine the same? One excluding all and the other including all, can they be the same? Yes and no, just depends upon the observer, the meditator... this simply goes to prove that jnana is a highly subjective field and the objectivity of modern science begin to lose significance in the finer aspects. If 9 and 0 are a class apart then it can be interesting to investigate into the significance of the next highest number ie 8, the auspicious number 7, and so on the number 1 so clearly and nicely signifying the smaller 'ego' or the first thought of 'I am' in comparision to the mysterious ultimate singularity of 0 (or 9 for that matter), Number 2 showing the fragmentation of thought into 'I' and 'You', 3 = I, You, He/She 4 = I, You, They both (Sanskrit as a language differentiates between singular,dual and plural) 5 = I, You, They 6 = We, They(Enmity!) 7 = We all(Very auspicious isn't it?) 8 = I, They all(Eight is a very powerful number carrying apparently negative shades, but symbolises the power of a king over his subjects) And there are only eight fingers, no ninth or zero'eth one!(May be, the old man sitting in the clouds may have them?). Wonder what the thumbs are all about, just for assisting the fingers or only twiddling? So maths is not so dry after all, it seems to be born out of the politics of the 'ego'!, but not without divine help in the form of 0 and 9 ! Seems to be a technical way to clearly explain the whole confusion which may appeal to some, also appears to be an universal language(can use it with the aliens!) 'nothing really' ********************************************************************** WHY 108 BEADS ON A jAPA MALA ? In the first place, the radius of the sun is 108 times the radius of the earth and for all of us, both the earth and the sun are of primary importance and they greatly count in our day to day lives; secondly, there are 12 prominent constellations (Rashis) and 9 heavenly Bodies (Navagrahas) that are nearby. The have a direct effect on human welfare, and 12 x 9 = 108; and thirdly, 1 plus zero plus 8 equal 9, which is the highest in the numerical scale. That is why our enlightened Swamis are referred to as Swami 108 or 1008 There are also 108 techniques of meditation or 108 paths of reaching God. So, one should not be in a hurry to judge that other paths of reaching God are wrong. At the end of 108 counting beads of a mala, there is a large bead, symbolic of the Ultimate Divine. That is why, the seeker doing Japa does not cross the large bead again but reverses the counting systematically, till one reaches the large head again, and so on, the process is repeated, making sure that one day, the seeker will certainly approach God, as a result of Japa, or any other method of god realization. " There are of course 108 upanishads! ********************************************************************** HERE IS HOW TO REMEMBER THE NUMBERS : ZERO- 0 -'Nothing' except BraHman! ONE-1- EKAM SAD - ONLY ONE TRUTH TWO 2- two principles- sad and asad - two birds on the tree ( upanishads) Three - 3- Brahma , Vishnu , Shiva ; Saraswati, Lakshmi, Parvati , The three Gunas - Sattwa, Rajas and Tamas ; The three planes - Bhur Bhuvah swah; Sthoola . sukshma and Karana sarira ; Three schools- Advaita , Dwaita, Vishishtadwaita ; Jiva , Ishwaera and Brahman ! Four -4- The four vedas - Rig, Yajur , Athharva , sama veda ; The four noble truths in Buddhism ; The four levels of consciousness -i) waking (ii)dreaming, (iii) dreamless sleep and pure consciousness : the four levels of speech - VAIKHARI, Madhyama, PASHYANTI AND PARAVANI! THE FOUR YOGAS- bhakti, jnana , karma and raja ; the four yugas- dwapara, satya, treta and kali ! Five -5- The Pancha kosas -Annamaya , PranAmaya , ManoNmaya , Vigyanmaya and Anandmaya; The five vital forces -PRANA, APANA, VYANA, UDANA and SAMANA; The five subtle elements are viz., space, air, fire, water and earth; the five Karmendriyas ; the five jnanedriyas ' Five faces of Lord Shiva - Isanam, Thatpurusham, Agoram, Vamadevam and Satyojatam and of course the Pancha Pandavas ! Six-6- The six Darshanas -1) Nyaya 2)Vaisesika 3)Sankhya 4)Yoga 5)Purva (karma) Mimamsa 6) Uttara (brahma) Mimamsa ; The six faced Shanmukha Seven -7- The 'sapta' rishis - The 'seven' Chakras and seven Nadis- the seven days of the week Eight -8 - the 8 vasus; the eight handed Durga - Krishna , the 8th avatar nine -9- the nine planets - the nine gates of sin in the body Ten 10- The ten avatars- the ten headed demon Ravana Eleven -11- THE ELEVEN RUDRAS ! ********************************************************************** ENJOY! please feel free to add, subtract, multiply, divide etc! 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