Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 There have been postings by several advaitins in response to the MTS series and I thank each one for taking the time to do so. Nair ji: It is going to take me sometime to read and correctly understand all the points raised. Some of the questions are best answered when I present the appropriate section of the paper in future postings of this series. The questions you raise are important and I hope to answer them with the care they deserve before concluding the series. Hersh ji: Thanks for the links to Swami Vivekananda’s efforts to bring science and Advaita closer. I have printed out these interesting papers and am reading them as time permits. “Adi Shakti’s” posting about the “Ramanujams” was not in response to anything specifically in the paper, but it is interesting that he brought up the name Srinivasa Ramanujam. In the biographical work on Ramanujam’s life entitled “The Man Who Knew Infinity” I found something very stirring: How Ramanujam sincerely believed that all theorems that he discovered came to him as revelations from the reigning Goddess of his village temple. He had no other explanation for his own genius. Ben: I have your recent question regarding the meaning of the cartesian axes. I will respond to it either as part of the next posting that I am working on or separately. Hari Om! - Raju Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Respected Dr. Raju-ji ! Thank you for even acknowledging my post which was really an attempt on my part to say a few words of Encouragement to my friend Ben Who has taken the lead in supporting on your 'Mathematical theory of Spirituality based on Advaita' ... sir, I am a 'she' not a 'he '- second time around somebody has mistaken this jiva as a 'male' ... i guess , 'advaita' is a domain for Males only? smile ! Maths certainly is not ! We have ALL heard of the Woman Genius Smt. Sakuntala Devi, the Human computer ! Smile ! well, little 'me' is neither a great mathematician nor a great advaitin - but a simple minded devotee with her 'heart' in the right place ! Sir , in Thirukural there is a two line verse which goes thus " Yen Yenba Yennai Yezhathu Yenba Evvirendum Kann Yenba Vazhum Uuzhirukuu " Translation Numbers and letters - these are the twin eyes of the mind. Reading, (W)Riting and (A)Rithmetic constitite Full learning! Sir, You write : (In the biographical work on Ramanujam's life entitled "The Man Who Knew Infinity" I found something very stirring: How Ramanujam sincerely believed that all theorems that he discovered came to him as revelations from the reigning Goddess of his village temple.) The Goddess indeed in all powerful! It is Devi herself ( Kali ma) who blessed the great poet Kalidasa with speech and eloquence and he was able to write such classic plays like Kumarasambhavam, Meghadhootam, Raghuvamsham, Malavika Agnimitram and Shankuntalam etc- due to Devi's infinite grace ( anugriham) From a dumb person, Kalidasa became a world renowned poet and is called the Shakespeare of India! We all know of 'mukakavi' ( the dumb poet) also who was made eloquent by the grace of Ambaal. Yes! Dr. Raju! The temple deity who whispered 'equations ' in the ears of Sri Ramanujam is none other than 'NAMAGIRI Thayar OF NAMAKKAL', THE CONSORT OF LION GOD NARASIMHA ! It is believed that the Goddess visited him during the dreams and wrote equations on his tongue! and it is the same Family deity who advised his mother to send her only son to England to pursue his dreams! "Sri Ramanujam united mathematics and spirituality together. He felt, for example, that zero represented Absolute Reality, and that infinity represented the many manifestations of that Reality. Ramanujan felt that each mathematical discovery was a step closer to understanding the spiritual universe. He once told a friend, "An equation for me has no meaning unless it expresses a thought of God." He saw the 'divine in numbers' " (SOURCE: http://www.atributetohinduism.com/quotes321_340.htm ) well, Our beloved Ben mentioned about Greek Philosopher Plato and Mathematics! 'I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of reasoning. ( plato) and Albert Einstein says : As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. Now, i am even ore confused abourt both 'mathematics' and 'Reality' - SMILE! and the funny part is sri Ramanujam and i have something in common! both our grandparents belong to Erode in Tamilnadu ! I have spent many of my childhood summers in Erode and Kumbakonam- Had i known , i would have also prayed to that village goddess ! i was too busy playing on the shores of the 'kaveri river building sandcastles ! ) Sri Lalita Sahasaranama says : Sri Mahabuddhih — The Greatest Intelligence. — "To the Devi who abides in All beings in the form of Pure Intelligence." Sri Durga-Saptasati 20-22 Sri Lalita Sahasranama (Sri Lalita Sahasranama, C. S. Murthy, Assoc. Advertisers and Printers, 1989.) "When the intelligence is directed towards Her, nothing remains to be known. The Sruti (Cha. Up., VI. 1) says, "Which, when known, the whole universe is known." Or, from whom one obtains the highest (mahat) intelligence." R. Ananthakrishna Sastry (R. A. Sastry, Lalita-Sahasranama, The Adyar Library and Research Centre, Madras, 1988, p. 126.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Adiji, If "shakti" means "life energy as expressed in nature", then you have more shakti than the rest of this list put together! Hari Om! Ben advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > > Respected Dr. Raju-ji ! > > Thank you for even acknowledging my post which was really an attempt > on my part to say a few words of Encouragement to my friend Ben Who > has taken the lead in supporting on your 'Mathematical theory of > Spirituality based on Advaita' ... > > sir, I am a 'she' not a 'he '- second time around somebody has > mistaken this jiva as a 'male' ... i guess , 'advaita' is a domain > for Males only? smile ! Maths certainly is not ! We have ALL heard > of the Woman Genius Smt. Sakuntala Devi, the Human computer ! > Smile ! well, little 'me' is neither a great mathematician nor a > great advaitin - but a simple minded devotee with her 'heart' in the > right place ! > > Sir , in Thirukural there is a two line verse which goes thus > > " Yen Yenba Yennai Yezhathu Yenba > Evvirendum Kann Yenba Vazhum Uuzhirukuu " > > Translation > > Numbers and letters - these are the twin eyes of the mind. > > Reading, (W)Riting and (A)Rithmetic constitite Full learning! > > Sir, You write : > > (In the biographical work on Ramanujam's life entitled "The Man Who > Knew Infinity" I found something very stirring: How Ramanujam > sincerely believed that all theorems that he discovered came to him > as revelations from the reigning Goddess of his village temple.) > > The Goddess indeed in all powerful! It is Devi herself ( Kali ma) who > blessed the great poet Kalidasa with speech and eloquence and he was > able to write such classic plays like Kumarasambhavam, Meghadhootam, > Raghuvamsham, Malavika Agnimitram and Shankuntalam etc- due to Devi's > infinite grace ( anugriham) From a dumb person, Kalidasa became a > world renowned poet and is called the Shakespeare of India! We all > know of 'mukakavi' ( the dumb poet) also who was made eloquent by the > grace of Ambaal. > > Yes! Dr. Raju! The temple deity who whispered 'equations ' in the > ears of Sri Ramanujam is none other than 'NAMAGIRI Thayar OF > NAMAKKAL', THE CONSORT OF LION GOD NARASIMHA ! It is believed that > the Goddess visited him during the dreams and wrote equations on his > tongue! and it is the same Family deity who advised his mother to > send her only son to England to pursue his dreams! > > "Sri Ramanujam united mathematics and spirituality together. He felt, > for example, that zero represented Absolute Reality, and that > infinity represented the many manifestations of that Reality. > Ramanujan felt that each mathematical discovery was a step closer to > understanding the spiritual universe. He once told a friend, "An > equation for me has no meaning unless it expresses a thought of God." > He saw the 'divine in numbers' " > > (SOURCE: http://www.atributetohinduism.com/quotes321_340.htm ) > > well, Our beloved Ben mentioned about Greek Philosopher Plato and > Mathematics! > > 'I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of > reasoning. ( plato) > > and Albert Einstein says : > As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not > certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to > reality. > > > Now, i am even ore confused abourt both 'mathematics' and 'Reality' - > SMILE! > > and the funny part is sri Ramanujam and i have something in common! > both our grandparents belong to Erode in Tamilnadu ! I have spent > many of my childhood summers in Erode and Kumbakonam- Had i known , i > would have also prayed to that village goddess ! i was too busy > playing on the shores of the 'kaveri river building sandcastles ! ) > > Sri Lalita Sahasaranama says : > > Sri Mahabuddhih > > — The Greatest Intelligence. > > — "To the Devi who abides in All beings in the form of Pure > Intelligence." Sri Durga-Saptasati 20-22 > > Sri Lalita Sahasranama > (Sri Lalita Sahasranama, C. S. Murthy, Assoc. Advertisers and > Printers, 1989.) > > > "When the intelligence is directed towards Her, nothing remains to be > known. The Sruti (Cha. Up., VI. 1) says, "Which, when known, the > whole universe is known." Or, from whom one obtains the highest > (mahat) intelligence." > > R. Ananthakrishna Sastry > (R. A. Sastry, Lalita-Sahasranama, The Adyar Library and Research > Centre, Madras, 1988, p. 126.) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 wow! do you expect me to take this compliment seriously! Yes , i do have boundless 'energy' ( may be of the wrong kind! smile! ) but real energy is in 'silencing the senses' specially the 'Tongue' ! Silence is the Language of the Sages! in Silence, one can hear Sri Krishna's footsteps appreoaching us with the melody of music from His Divine flute, our beloved Venu-gopala , Murali-MAnohara! bh ! Thank you,, anyway ! BENJI, may i share an anecdote with you about Sri Ramanuja ? In an arithmetic class, the teacher said that if three bananas are distributed to three students, then each student would get one banana. The teacher generalized this idea of division to say that an integer divided by itself will always be 1. Ramanujan is said to have surprised every one by asking: "Sir, if no banana is distributed to no student, will each student still get a banana?" Ramanujan has been quoted to have said: " Zero divided by zero may be anything. The zero of the numerator may be several times the zero of the denominator and vice versa". This anecdote reveals that Ramanujan was thinking of limits and limiting processes. http://www.imsc.res.in/~raoramanujan/newnow/main.htm well, to Sri Ramanuja, the child prodigy , every integer was a friend ! and Ben-ji, you are right- i am told in all IIT entrance exams , there are still some questions pertaining to Sri Ramanujam's theorems ! No wonder, ONLY THE BEST GET ADMITTED TO THESE SCHOOLS AND THE SAD PART OF IT IS THE BEST MIGRATE TO U.S.A a is evident in my family- SOME OF MY cousins and nephews are top graduates from IIT Who are now in U.S.A from east coast to west coast! in another note, both Einstein and Sri Ramanujam had something in common ... These two geniuii had uncouth appearance with unkempt hair and both worked as ordinary clerks with extraordinary brains ! However, Einstein won the prestigious nobel prize and Sr Ramanujam ? i think he should be given the nobel prize postumously and the award money should be used for helping the 'poor' and orphan students! why not ? Benji, how else can we explain sri Ramanujam's Genius except by acknowledging the 'GODDESS'S divine intervention? Devi Kripa ! When you have Goddess as a guru , do we need textbooks ? Devi is Medha shakti! btw, i read that in England they are trying to use mathematical models to save the rare species of Red Squirrels ( as againstb the grey squirrels) who are estinguishing at a fast rate ! smile! love and blessings advaitin, "Benjamin Orion" <orion777ben> wrote: > > Adiji, > > If "shakti" means "life energy as expressed in nature", > then you have more shakti than the rest of this list > put together! > List Moderator's Note: List wants to thank the members for their continued support to list policies and guidelines. Please do not include the previous posters' messages in the tail end (or in the beginning) of your message while sending your replies. Both the new members and other members do seem to continue to repeat doing this. The list appreciates your cooperation in keeping the message crisp and clear by removing all unnecessary parts of previous messages. (As it is done in this message!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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