Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 praNAms Hare Krishna After seeing the extended discussion about creation theories in this list...a fundamental query coming to my mind. I request prabhuji-s of this list to bear with my ignorance. First of all, kindly clarify whether this drushti -srushti vAda pertains to jIva or Ishvara?? Since shankara does not use this terminology anywhere in the prasthAna trayi bhAshya, I need the clarification. Scholars argue that this type of vAda gained currency only in the posterior works after shankara's bhAshtra traya. As per my understanding, drushti-srushti vAda relates to jIva-s & their cognition...when one sees outside then only one will find the world or srushti...this is what I've been thinking all these days about drushti-srushti vAda (somewhat similar to vijnAnavAda). But we've seen in the recent posts about this vAda, it is not jIva's drushti it is Ishwara's drushti!!! I vaguely remember that I've read the somewhat near to drushti-srushti vAda in one of the verses in yOgA vAshishTa (but donot know the reference & not sure...Sundar prabhuji, if you could kindly help)..but I dont think this work says it is talking about Ishvara drushti and not jIva drushti & attributing cognition to Ishvara..it simply says *where there is drushti there is srushti* (again quoting from memory..)... So, according to me, in drushti-srushti vAda, mind is the creator!! As said above, this is more or less close to vijnAna vAda of bhuddhist which is contrary to bAhyAstitva vAda or realistic view. Since this list witnessed somany realistic & eternality theories with regard to creation & Ishwara, I think instead of drushti srushti vAda, srushti-drushti vAda will give more weightage to their claims of eternality of creation. While on the subject, I would like to draw the attention of our prabhuji's to my guruji Sri Vidyashankara Sundareshan prabhuji's write up on the subject matter in Advaita-L web site. (I firmly believe that he is one of the authorities on the subject) He says that drushti-srushti vAda has more proximity to yEka jIva vAda!! It is also interesting to note that he takes this vAda as a third alternative & says shruti/advaita primarily leads its followers to srushti-drushti vAda & then ajAtivAda. For more details kindly see the below link : http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/creation.html I also have some queries with respect to holding the dualistic view point that eternal difference between jIva & Ishvara with regard to creation & other powers.....shankara does talk about jIva-s which have attained brahma lOka through archirAdi mArga (upAsana) & limits its power to some extent...but clearly says it is not the *final* emancipation from avidyA...In my opinion, the eternal difference between jIva & Ishwara is a cut from entirely different fabric of advaita !! More to follow on this subject. Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar PS : I've marked a copy of this mail to my master Sri Vidya prabhuji, just to keep him informed that I am quoting him.....I also humbly request him to throw more light on the query raised by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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