Sri Ramana and Aurobindo

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Sri Ramana was familiar with Sri Aurbindo's teachings and thought that

these were things well known and stated by many ancient works but had

been put in a new packaging using new terms by Aurbindo. He read some of

Aurbindo's works in one night when a devotee brought him a book.

Sometimes people from Aurbindo's Ashram would come to Ramana Ashram and

vice versa as well. The difference between Sri Ramana and Aurbindo is

very simple and fundamental. Sri Ramana taught stillness and to abide in

the Self, the Heart that is the source of all activities. Aurbindo is

all about activity and, in fact, focuses on mental and supramental

activity. Ascent and descent of divine forces, etc.

 

The Heart Sri Ramana spoke about is not the heart-center of kundalini

yoga but the two are often mixed up. These two are not the same and Sri

Ramana pointed that out many times. The Heart that Sri Ramana refers to

is beyond time and space and all activities and is the Self Aware

Presence abiding as It Self. From the perspective of the mind, the

Heart, the Self has a location. The ancients called it the cave of the

Heart. Upon entering it, everything disappears including the location

and Self is known in its fullness in its own nature by it Self as the

Eternal Self Knowing, Self Bliss, Self Existence, that has always been.

So the question of ascent and descent of forces is moot in Self-Realization.

 

In Bhagavan

Harsha

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Namaste

 

The following links might be of interest:

 

Sri Aurobindo on Ramana Maharshi

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http://intyoga.online.fr/et381210.htm

Disciple: Ramana Maharshi does not believe in the descent (of the

Supermind).

 

Sri Aurobindo: It - the descent is the experience of many Sadhaks

even outside our Yoga. An old Sanyasi of the Ramakrishna Mission saw

a flood of light descending and when he asked he was told it was all

the work of the devil and the whole experience stopped afterwards.

 

In Maharshi's case he has received the thing in the heart and has

worked with it, so he does not feel the descent.

 

Ramana Maharshi on Sri Aurobindo

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http://www.realization.org/page/doc0/doc0098.htm

 

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Hersh

advaitin, Harsha wrote:

>

> Sri Ramana was familiar with Sri Aurbindo's teachings and thought

that

> these were things well known and stated by many ancient works but

had

> been put in a new packaging using new terms by Aurbindo. He read

some of

> Aurbindo's works in one night when a devotee brought him a book.

> Sometimes people from Aurbindo's Ashram would come to Ramana Ashram

and

> vice versa as well. The difference between Sri Ramana and Aurbindo

is

> very simple and fundamental. Sri Ramana taught stillness and to

abide in

> the Self, the Heart that is the source of all activities. Aurbindo

is

> all about activity and, in fact, focuses on mental and supramental

> activity. Ascent and descent of divine forces, etc.

>

> The Heart Sri Ramana spoke about is not the heart-center of

kundalini

> yoga but the two are often mixed up. These two are not the same and

Sri

> Ramana pointed that out many times. The Heart that Sri Ramana

refers to

> is beyond time and space and all activities and is the Self Aware

> Presence abiding as It Self. From the perspective of the mind, the

> Heart, the Self has a location. The ancients called it the cave of

the

> Heart. Upon entering it, everything disappears including the

location

> and Self is known in its fullness in its own nature by it Self as

the

> Eternal Self Knowing, Self Bliss, Self Existence, that has always

been.

> So the question of ascent and descent of forces is moot in Self-

Realization.

>

> In Bhagavan

> Harsha

>

[Guest guest]

, "Tony OClery" <aoclery>

wrote:

 

, Harsha wrote:

>

> Sri Ramana was familiar with Sri Aurbindo's teachings and thought

that

>

 

Namaste,Harsha et al,

 

Yes I have some work of Sri Aurobindo. He was an interesting person,

a worker for Swaraj in India initially, and then seemingly taught a

philosophy seemingly similar to Nietche and the 'Superman'.

 

So it seem Aurobindo was all about transformation of matter as

opposed to its denial. No doubt this type of Yoga would be of

interest to those who are not interested in religion, advaita or

ajatavada. It does stimulate the intellect, but Harsha you are right

about Ramana and the simplicity of 'Who am I?'.........ONS..

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