Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Gita Satsangh, Chapter 10: The Yoga of Divine Glories(VibhuutiyogaH) Verses 12 to 13: Arjuna Uvaacha: Param brahma param dhaama pavitram paramam bhavaan; Purusham shaashvatam divyam aadidevamajam vibhum. .. 12 Arjuna said: Thou art the Supreme Brahman, the supreme abode (or the supreme light), the supreme purifier, the eternal, divine Person, the primeval God, unborn and omnipresent. Aahustwaam rishayah sarve devarshirnaaradastathaa; Asito devalo vyaasah swayam chaiva braveeshi me…. 13 All the sages have thus declared Thee, as also the divine sage Narada; so also Asita, Devala and Vyasa; and now Thou Thyself sayest so to me. Easy references; The Gita Supersite http://www.gitasupersite.org/ contains most of the commentaries including commentaries in many languages. Adi Shankara's commentary and Swami Chinmayananda's commentary are available at the advaitin file folder at URL: advaitin/files Double click on the folders Sankara1 and Chinmaya to access the files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 What nectarean words to read on the start of a work-week! ( Arjuna Uvaacha: Param brahma param dhaama pavitram paramam bhavaan; Purusham shaashvatam divyam aadidevamajam vibhum. .. 12 Arjuna said: Thou art the Supreme Brahman, the supreme abode (or the supreme light), the supreme purifier, the eternal, divine Person, the primeval God, unborn and omnipresent. ) The Caitanya Caritramrita says : advaya jnana tattva vastu krsnera svarupa brahma atma, bhagavan, tin tanra rupa Lord Krsna Himself is the one undivided Absolute Truth, the ultimate reality. He manifests Himself in three features-as Brahman, Paramatma and Bhagavan. C.C.Adi.2 Paramacharya says : "Mahavishnu has many names. In fact, there are a thousand names. Then it may be asked why the Narayana name is chosen. The supreme astakshari mantra of Mahavishnu has the Narayana name in it. Ayana means path (marga). Ayana also means the end (goal) of the path. In both these senses, Narayana is the Ayana for the Nara (Jivatma). Bhrama Vidya Sastra gives the path to salvation. Narayana is Bhrama Vidya. When He appears as Krishna Paramatma, he himself says "Adhyatma Vidya Vidhyanam" in the Gita. The final goal of that Vidya is also He only. Therefore it is that when Bhrahma Vidua Guru Parampara is talked about, it starts with "Narayanam". So it is quite appropriate that in the Bhashya books, which are Bhrahma Vidya Sastras, the Narayana name is used." Om Namo Narayana! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Namaste Satsanghis: Here are some additional explanations on these verses. By the first half of the twelfth verse Arjuna intends to say that the absolute known as the transcendent Eternal is no other than Sri Krsna; that His supreme Abode too, being the embodiment of Truth, Knowledge and Bliss, divine in character and hence identical with God, is the same as Sri Krsna; and that His names, virtues, glory, stories and character, when heard, reflected on and chanted, are supremely purifying in every way. The word 'Rsayah', qualified by the adjective Sarve, stands for Rsis like Markandeya, Angira and so on, whom Arjuna mentions as the authority for his statement. The following are the marks of a Devarsi or celestial sage:- "Seers living in the celestial regions should be known as the blessed Devarsis". Besides them, there are other Devarsis as well who are distinguished by their knowledge of the past, present and future and strict adherence to truth. In other words celestials, Brahmanas, and members of the royal class who are self-illumined and have established contact with the world of their own free will who are famed throughout the world for their austerity, who have imparted spiritual knowledge to devotees (like Prahlada) even in their mothers womb, who are the revealers of Mantras or sacred formulas, who by virtue of their supernatural powers (Siddhis) have unrestricted access everywhere, and are ever surrounded by Rsis, are all Devarsis. "The two sons of Dharma, Nara and Narayana, Kratus sons, collectively known as the Valakhilyas, Kardama, son of Pulaha, Parvata, Narada and the two sons of Kasyapa, Asita and Vatsara, because they an exercise control even over the celestials, are called Devarsis." Devarsi Narada, Asita, Devala and Vyasa-all these great Rsis know of the real truth about God, and are great lovers and devotees of God, and possessed of supreme wisdom. They are regarded as highly respected and truthful sages of their time; that is why their names have been specially mentioned in the verse. Moreover, they are ever engaged in singing the praises of God. The chief mission of their life is to propagate the glory of God. The Mahabharata too contains several references to these and many other Rsis and Maharsis singing the glories of God. The patriarch Bhisma recapitulates in the Bhisma-Parva what one or other of those sages spoke about Bhagavan Sri Krsna. Sri Krsna has already referred to His own incomparable glory in IV.6 to 9; V.29, VII.7 to 12; IX. 4 to 11, and 16 to 19; and X.2, 3, 8. This is what Arjuna has in mind when he says that Sri Krsna is revealing His own glory to him. Arjuna is, therefore, convinced that what he says in these verses about Sri Krsna is, quite correct, and he has no doubt about it. The title of 'Brahma Rsis' represents Rsis who have achieved the top cadre of rsis through austerity (Tapas). Sage Viswamitra wanted Brahma rsis, Sage Vasista (the author of Yogavasista) to call him as a Brahma Rsis and he finally achieved this remarkable feat through Tapas. A sage who attains the status of 'Brahma Rsis' when he/she is slef-realized. A Brahma Rsis knows all the glories of the Lord (Brahman). Even a Brahma Rsis's wisdom is a second-hand knowledge and the best source of the Brahmanic Wisdom is one and only the Brahman! Harih Om! Ram Chandran advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > > What nectarean words to read on the start of a work-week! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Namaste Satsanghis: Here are the commentary from Swami Chinmayanda for these two verses: Arjuna said: 12. You are the Supreme BRAHMAN, the Supreme Abode, the Supreme Purifier, Eternal, Divine PURUSHA, the God of all gods, Unborn, Omnipresent. 13. All the RISHIS have thus declared You, as also the DEVA-RISHI Narada, so also Asita, Devala and Vyasa; and now the same You Yourself say to me. Arjuna confesses that he had already been taught, through the Vedic passages, that the great seers of old had indicated the INFINITE, the ETERNAL, through suggestive phraseologies, such as "THE SUPREME BRAHMAN, THE SUPREME ABODE, THE SUPREME PURIFIER, THE ETERNAL BRAHMAN, THE SELF-LUMINOUS PURUSHA, THE FIRST DEVA, THE BIRTHLESS AND THE ALL-PERVADING." In all these cases he had heard them only as attributes of the Truth. So when he heard in his own presence, the same phrases used by Krishna, in the first person singular, he, the son of Kunti, feels lost, not knowing how to comprehend that Krishna, his charioteer, is the Source of the Whole Universe! A practical man-of-the-world as Arjuna was, he needed more data, and we shall discover that in order to satisfy this demand, Krishna supplies enough information in this very same chapter. But, instead of satisfying Arjuna, it only sharpens his curiosity and compels him to demand from Krishna an experimental demonstration, which also is provided by Krishna in the following chapter (Chapter XI). The ancient seers mentioned here, "Narada, Asita, Devala, and Vyasa," cannot be very familiar to the students of the Upanishads. Vyasa, perhaps, deliberately quotes these Rishis mentioned in his Puranas. Arjuna acknowledged and recognised these phrases, indicating the attributes of the Lord, only as empty and purposeless words, though they had come from accepted great teachers. His actual surprise was clearly expressed in his words "SO ALSO YOU YOURSELF REPEAT TO ME." Here the occasion for Arjuna's staggering confusion was, how his own contemporary, Lord Krishna --- a living creature standing right in front of him, whom he knew all these years, and was even related to -- - could Himself be the Infinite, the Supreme, the Birthless, and the All-pervading. Arjuna looks at Krishna with his physical eyes and he sees only Krishna's physical structure. Krishna has been declaring Himself as the pure Self throughout the Geeta and not as a living member of the society. "Sri Krishna Paramatman" is the teacher in the Geeta and not the son of Vasudeva, or the lover of the gopis. Arjuna could not comprehend 'Krishna-the-Spirit,' in his pre-occupation with 'Krishna- the-friend,' 'Krishna-the-lover,' 'Krishna-the-dependable man of intellect and diplomacy.' Hence the Pandava prince's wonderment and confusion. advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <ramvchandran> wrote: > > Gita Satsangh, Chapter 10: The Yoga of Divine Glories (VibhuutiyogaH) > Verses 12 to 13: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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