Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Profvk ji’s observation that use of mathematical models is similar to the use of analogies in Advaita is quite helpful and I thank him for bringing that out. Mathematical models have the same purpose and limitations as other analogies do. May be it was only a fortuitous coincidence that Profvk ji chose to illustrate his observation with the example of complex numbers, or may be it was more than that. Ever since I was introduced to Advaita, I have been tempted to call the unit imaginary number, i, as the Maya Operator of Mathematics. Like Maya, the “number” i is illusory, hard even to imagine and altogether quite mysterious. Illusory Maya cannot be seen, but its product, namely this world, is all too real to our senses. Similarly, even though i is called imaginary, it plays such a vital role in science and engineering that some of today’s technological advancements would be nearly impossible without it. Schrodinger’s wave equation, which is fundamental to the understanding of the behavior of matter, contains this mysterious i as though to proclaim that the seen world owes its existence to it! Maya, by its aavarana sakthi covers the Real to make it apparently unreal. At the same time, by its vikshepa sakthi Maya makes the unreal world appear real. Compare this with a property of i: a real number when multiplied by i becomes imaginary while an imaginary number multiplied by the same i becomes real! Thus, to my mind, i deserves the name “Maya Operator”. I also realized after reading Prof ji’s posting that the complex number t.exp(i.theta) (where exp is read as “e to the power of”, e being the Euler number 2.718..) can be used to denote jeeva’s “coordinates” as (t.cos(theta), t.sin(theta)). The “path” of the jeeva in the Cartesian coordinate system in Fig 10 can be written as the integral, with respect to t, of the complex function exp(i.theta(t)), theta(t) being a function with value between 0 and pi/2 radians for all t. When theta(t)= pi/2 (i.e. at the time of Realization), the integrand becomes exp(i.pi/2). Interestingly enough, the value of this expression is derived from what has been called the most beautiful of all identities in mathematics: exp(i.pi) = -1. This identity is remarkable in that it ties together very elegantly the two most important transcendental numbers in mathematics, namely e, and pi, with the imaginary number i. e and pi are numbers which rather mysteriously surface in many scientific investigations. Mathematicians tend to be mystics and many eminent mathematicians, I understand, have tried over the past few centuries to fathom the mystic significance of this supernatural looking identity. That such an expression should show up in a mathematical model based on Advaita (and that too in reference to the point of Realization in a jeeva’s path) is quite satisfying! It does not however solve the mystery behind the identity, rather adds to it. Thank you, Profvk ji for the lead! Hari Om! - Raju Chidambaram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 advaitin, aiyers@c... wrote: > > > > I also realized after reading Prof ji's posting that the complex number t.exp(i.theta) (where exp is read as "e to the power of", e being the Euler number 2.718..) can be used to denote jeeva's "coordinates" as (t.cos(theta), t.sin(theta)). The "path" of the jeeva in the Cartesian coordinate system in Fig 10 can be written as the integral, with respect to t, of the complex function exp(i.theta(t)), theta(t) being a function with value between 0 and pi/2 radians for all t. When theta(t)= pi/2 (i.e. at the time of Realization), the integrand becomes exp(i.pi/2). Interestingly enough, the value of this expression is derived from what has been called the most beautiful of all identities in mathematics: > > exp(i.pi) = -1. > That such an expression should show up in a mathematical model based on Advaita (and that too in reference to the point of Realization in a jeeva's path) is quite satisfying! It does not however solve the mystery behind the identity, rather adds to it. > > Thank you, Profvk ji for the lead! > > Hari Om! > > - Raju Chidambaram Namaste, Raju-ji. Thanks for the kind words. I have followed your above observations with interest. At the point of realization, the integrand, which gives the Jeeva's path, becomes exp(i.pi/2) which is nothing but "i". Two observations on this; 1. What does this mean mathematically? I am not able to see this. 2. It is the point of time, according to advaita, when the small "i" (the individual Jeeva) becomes the large "I" , the Universal 'I' !!! PraNAms to the Mathematics of Advaita! profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Namaste Prof-Ji: IMHO - If we say that reorganization that "i", (the individual jIva) is not different from the "I" is advaita. This will then satisfy the fundamental "aham brhmamaasmi" statement. I think the dot on the top of little "i" is the ah.nkaara, and the removal of that individualistic "dot" is the key in the reorganization process. Please correct me if I am missing something. Warm Regards. Dr. Yadu advaitin, "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk> wrote: > > advaitin, aiyers@c... wrote: > > > > > > > - Raju Chidambaram > > Namaste, Raju-ji. Thanks for the kind words. I have followed your > above observations with interest. At the point of realization, the > integrand, which gives the Jeeva's path, becomes exp(i.pi/2) which > is nothing but "i". Two observations on this; > 1. What does this mean mathematically? I am not able to see this. > 2. It is the point of time, according to advaita, when the small "i" > (the individual Jeeva) becomes the large "I" , the Universal 'I' !!! > > PraNAms to the Mathematics of Advaita! > profvk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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