The Truth of Brahman & Lord Krishna

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The Holy Koran of the Moorish Science Temple of America (Circle

Seven). Chapter 6-Life and Works of Jesus In India Among the

Moslems. Chapter 6:1-2 A royal prince of India, Ravanna in the

south, was met at the Jewish feast. Ravannah was a man of wealth,

and he was just, and with a band of Brahmic priests sought, wisdom

in the west. Chapter 8-Jesus Reveals To The People of Their Sinful

Ways. Chapter 8:3-4 Behold, a form without a spirit passes by; a

body with no soul; a temple with no altar fires. This car of Krishna

is an empty thing, for Krishna is not there. Chapter 10-Jesus Spake

On The Unity of Allah And Man To The Hindus. Chapter 11-Jesus and

Barata, together they read the Sacred Books. Chapter 11:2-Together

Jesus and Barata read the Jewish Psalms and the prophets, read the

Vedas, the Avesta and the Wisdom of Guatama. The Holy Prophet Noble

Drew Ali Divinely prepared the Circle Seven by the guiding of his

father, God ALLAH; the great God of the universe and in the Circle

Seven it says that the Jewish Psalms, the Vedas, the Avesta, and the

Wisdom of Guatama are the Sacred Books. The Moorish Science Temple

of America honors all true and divine prophets: Jesus, Mohammed,

Buddah, Confucius, etc.

 

The Divine Scriptures of India, I have read the Upanishads (wisdom

achieved by sitting close to a spiritual master), The Vedas

(knowledge)-(Rik / Sama / Yajur and Atharva), The Bhagavad Gita

(songs of God), The Epics of Mahabharata and The Vedanta. To me The

Bhagavad Gita is the most influential Hindu text. The Vedas are

related to a specific kind of knowledge, more specifically,

knowledge which is heard. The Ancient Sages who recorded the Vedic

hymns were said to have heard them, inspired by the transcendental

realms of consciousness, therefore, they wrote out their own

inspiration. Agastya is a Sage who is reputed to be one of the

composers of the Rig-Veda of India. Pre-Aryan time in India was

1,500 B.C. - 1,000 B.C. Yoga of spirituality (kundalini) Dravidian -

Indus Valley Culture. Vasudeva - Krishna , The devotion to deity

began 800 B.C. - 500 B.C. The Rig (Rik) Veda is a compilation of

religious doctrines which are known to have partially originated

with the invaders (Aryans) who came into India around the year 2,000

B.C. - 1,500 B.C. and attempted to impose themselves on the

Dravidian civilization which was well established in India by the

year 2,500 B.C. The Rig Veda pertains social customs of racism and

sexism in character due to their development of a caste system in

which those who were dark skinned and women in general were

classified as beings of lower status. In India, 800 B.C. the earlier

Vedic-Aryan religious teachings related to the God, Indra 1,000

B.C., were supplanted by the teachings related to the Upanishadic

and Vaishnava tradition of Vishnu worship which includes the

devotion to God in the form of the Vishnu avatars Rama and Krishna.

The Vaishnava tradition was developed by the indigenous Indian

peoples to counter the religion imposed on them by the Vedic Aryans.

In the epic stories known as the Ramayana and the Mahabharata,

Vishnu incarnates as Rama and Krishna, respectively, and throughout

the stories it is related how Vishnu's incarnations are more

powerful than Indra, who is portrayed as being feeble and weak. Some

of the writings of the Upanishads Tradition, the writings which

supercede the Vedic Tradition, contain specific verses stating that

they supersede the Vedas. One such statement can be found in the

Mundaka Upanishad and another in the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad.

 

Lord Krishna (1000 B.C.) Krishna is a God form or symbol in the

Indian Hindu Mythological system. Literally translated the name

Krishna means Black or The Black One, which is the personification

of the blackness of the vast un-manifest regions of existence. The

eyes of Krishna represent the sun and the moon, duality unified into

one whole. Krishna contained the entire universe in his essence, as

do all humans. Krishna is the symbol of the anointed one in each of

our spirits which are entombed in bodies and engaged in battle of

opposites (duality) good-evil, positive-negative, prosperity-

adversity, etc. This is the endless battle which goes on in the

realm of time and space, the earth plane, soul plane, and spiritual

plane. Krishna represents symbols, principles and examples of how we

can attain our highest potential (self-realization, enlightenment,

Krishnahood), which is the purpose of life. Krishna is the master

flute player and you must allow yourself to be played like a flute,

that is, that God should be the driving force behind your life, as

opposed to the ego. The perilous nature of the birth of Krishna

means that from the glorious realm of the father (GOD), the soul

incarnates into the realm of good and evil, time and space, wherein

it experiences pain and sorrow. The danger and flight surrounding

the birth of Krishna symbolizes the persecution that a spiritual

aspirant experiences upon treading the spiritual path. Krishna was

born in the humble surroundings of a prison cell where the evil king

had his parents imprisoned. His birth symbolizes humility and

effacement of the ego. Thus the birth of Krishna is a metaphor for

the commencement of spiritual life in every aspirant, which must be

characterized by an attainment of sincerity and humility. Krishna is

the savior within oneself and in creation. One must go beyond the

literal, interpretations of the scriptures and see its metaphoric

meaning. The stories of Krishna in the Vedas refer to a message or

messages about qualities or ideas about the savior and the savior's

mission. The savior is a metaphor for a transcendental reality, a

principle which lies within each of us. It is we our deeper self,

who incarnates, so to speak, and it is we who are persecuted by the

world with its endless attempts to force us to conform, because of

our desires and attachments. We are weakened by our own egoism and

thereby give our freedom and succumb to the transient and

unfulfilling joys and sorrows, negativity and illusions of the

world. But it is also we, who through our own intellect expanded by

wisdom (understanding the teachings) and self effort (righteousness

actions based on truth) directed toward the divine, will effect our

own salvation and transcend the ego and thereby the world as well.

The Moon represents the mind and the sun represents God. The self

(God) reflects the light of consciousness onto the human as the sun

reflects light to the moon. Krishna symbolizes the combination of

the moon and the sun. Thus the implications is that in order to

become one with the universe such as Krishna, the following change

in consciousness must occur: The mind (intellect) must merge with

the cosmic mind of (God). This change in consciousness may be

effected by turning the thoughts of the mind to God as opposed to

the objects of the world or shifting one's perception of worldly

objects and seeing them as expressions of God instead as separate

self-existing realities. As the moon reflects the sunlight, the

human mind is a reflection of the cosmic mind: GOD. Therefore, by

changing one's consciousness, one's awareness of reality, one may

find the balance between the two opposites and thereby become the

master of the two. Krishna is the primary expression of the highest

potential of the soul. In the mythology of India, the character of

Krishna is a incarnation of Vishnu (God). Krishna leads us to

Brahman (correct action that leads the way to salvation). Even

though Krishna is the Hindu exemplar of enlightened consciousness,

he also was susceptible to human emotion. The scriptures are giving

an important simile to gain insight into the ideal state of

enlightenment. While there is experience of the transcendental,

there remains a level of contact with the phenomenal world of time

and space. Otherwise, how would it be possible for Sages to interact

with human beings? Enlightened beings interact and are aware of

human emotions, but they experience these in a different way than

ordinary human beings. They are detached from their emotions and

therefore remain clear of inner delusion and grief. While a Sage may

appear to be suffering on the outside, he or she is not really

suffering deep down. Their ability to feel the human predicament

allows them to sympathize and commiserate with others and serve

humanity in a real way. They serve not just with instructions from

afar, but by working with people and showing them there own example

how to live in happiness, sorrow, pain, birth, and death. In Indian

mythology, the characters of Krishna, an incarnation of Vishnu

(God), and Radha, his consort, are prime examples of the male-female

elements and their relation to spiritual development. Their

relationship is complementary with respect to the message of intense

devotion. The character of Krishna, as a devotional representation

of God, developed out of a need for a relationship between a

personal God and the human self (ego). Prior to the emergence of

the teachings related to the characters of Krishna and Rama in

India, the spiritual tradition focused on ritualism and on

intellectual studies. The Sages saw the need to provide a vehicle

whereby the devotional aspect of personality could be developed in

order to foster an integral spiritual movement. In India, the

devotional idea developed out of the Svetasvatara Upanishad and the

Bhagavad Gita. Through increasing levels of devotion, which has the

effect of consuming one's attention and concentration, one is

gradually able to see the object of devotion in all things,

regardless of the activities in which one is engaged. In the text,

Bhagavata Purana, also known as the Shrimad-Bhagavata, also known as

the Shrimad-Bhagavata, written in the tenth century A.C., Krishna is

portrayed as a God-man who is husband to 16,108 women (Gopis).

However, the point of this story is not to advocate polygamy. It is

a metaphorical teaching given to describe, in tantric terminology,

the nature of the Divine Self, God, who as if makes love with all

human beings who seek after him with love and devotion in their

heart. While human beings see God as one, in reality God is one for

all. Therefore, while there may be many religions in the world, they

all refer, with equal validity, to the same Divinity. Through the

passionate stories of the devotion of the Gopis (shepherdesses), the

Purana illustrates the levels of devotion necessary for the

individual human souls, symbolized by the Gopis, to achieve union

with God, symbolized by one God, Krishna, manifesting for all as an

individual, giving all his attention to each of them as an

individual. So taken are they with their fascination for Krishna

that the Gopis drop all other interest including their husbands and

families. At times Krishna appears to become many in order to

satisfy each individual Gopi, each one of whom thinks she is making

love with the one Krishna. In this manner, the one absolute God is

understood as being all pervading, ever present and available to

each soul because the individual soul is essentially one with the

Absolute Self. So when you are loving your spouse, a friend, a

relative or an object, you are in reality loving God, who has

assumed that particular shape and form, just as the Gopis have

become enamored with Krishna. The error in the human mind is in

believing that the shape and form is real and separate from God

instead of understanding that it is an expression (illusory

modification) of the Divine. In the Gita Govinda (Song of Govinda),

a twelfth century Indian text, the story of Krishna and his favorite

shepherdess (Gopi), Radha, is to be found. Radha exemplifies the

height of the devotional feeling in a human being, which transcends

physical love. One Of Krishna's names, Govinda means cow finder,

referring to his occupation of cowherd. The Sanskrit word "go"

(meaning wisdom) leads to the esoteric understanding of Krishna as

the finder or shepherd of wisdom. Lord Krishna is usually depicted

as a child or adult man playing the flute. As I said earlier the

flute on which he is playing symbolizes hollowing one's personality

from ego consciousness and thereby allowing God to use one as an

instrument to bring good to the world. Radha represents the female

spiritual ideal. Her love is so strong that it includes and

transcends its gross aspects (physical sex) and touches the very

heart of the beloved, becoming one with him. The Gita Govinda

reflects a passionate style of Tantrism, using sexual metaphors to

illustrate the passionate desire (Rati) which the devotee feels. In

ancient times some ceremonies could not be performed by Brahmin

without wives. This was the Indian Mahanirvanatantra, in which the

male god figures, Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma, were said to be

powerless without their (female aspects) without whom they avail

nothing.

 

Vedanta Yoga, and Samkhya Philosophy (c. + 1,000 B.C.- Present)

Vedanta Philosophy originated from the ancient spiritual scriptures

of India called the Vedas. More specifically, Vedanta refers to the

end of the Vedas of the scriptures commonly referred to as the

Upanishads which constitute a summary or distillation of the highest

philosophy of the Vedas. Vedanta philosophy, as it exists in the

present, is a combination of Buddhist psychology, Hindu mythology

and ancient mystical philosophy. Having its original roots in the

philosophy of the oneness of GOD who manifests in a myriad of ways,

Vedanta achieves a balanced blend of all the philosophies and has

been adapted by the present day Sage to teach to modern day society.

Vedanta, which includes the 16 Yogas (8 major, 8 minor) adapted from

the Buddhist Wheel of Life, developed as an alternative to the

patriarchal and racist Brahmanic system. Vedanta Philosophy is

summed up in four Mahavakyas or Great Utterances to be found in the

Upanishads: (1)Brahman, the Absolute is consciousness beyond all

mental concepts. (2)Thou Art That (Referring to the fact that

everyone is essentially that consciousness). (3)I Am Brahman, the

Absolute (To be spoken by people referring to their own essential

nature). (4)The Self is Brahman (The Self is the essence of all

things). The True Self (higher self) is Brahman and the true self is

the essence of all things. The Absolute reality is that which is

unchanging. Brahman is the Absolute reality. The manifesting

universe is an appearance only, an illusory modification of Brahman.

Therefore, it never had a beginning and will never have an end

because it is only an appearance. Brahman is all that exists. All

the objects of the world and universe even though appearing to be

different are really one entity. All physical reality is an illusory

manifestation of Brahman which Brahman sustains but yet is detached

from at all times. Brahman is pure consciousness. All that exists is

essentially Brahman. God gives things existence; God is conscious of

those things, therefore they exist and God gives bliss to the

experience of living. The mind, body and senses of human beings are

illusions. The essence of everything in the universe, including the

human soul, is pure consciousness. Even though objects appear real,

tangible and permanent, it is in reality transient and illusory.

Brahman is the world and also assumes the role of millions of

individual life forms (people, animals, insects, etc.). The

individual soul is termed Atman. Atman and Brahman are one and the

same. Therefore, everyone's soul is part of the Universal essence,

Brahman. Through a veil of mental ignorance, the individual soul

(Atman) believes it is an individual entity (Jiva), separate from

everything else when it is indeed part of everything. The mental

veil of ignorance comes from erroneous subconscious impressions

which cause the person to believe they are a body instead of a

spirit and therefore, they search for happiness and fulfillment in

the illusory pleasures of the world. This leads one from one

unfulfilled desire to another. The Vedas seek to transform the

subconscious of the individual through gradually increasing

philosophical and practical discipline. Its goal is to remove the

veil of ignorance by asserting that the only reality is Brahman.

When this reality is consciously realized by intuition, the veil of

ignorance is lifted. Once the veil of ignorance is removed, the

initiate subsists in a transformed psychological and spiritual state

where they abide in the real universal, omnipresent, expansive state

of consciousness termed Jivan Mukta, which means: one who is

liberated while still alive, Jivan Mukta is an individual who has

sublimated their ego-sense (lower self) in favor of becoming one

with the Absolute reality. No longer knowing themselves as an

individual, they are one with God: Brahman. This is the state termed

as Moksha or Kaivalia (liberation). It is the ignorance about our

true nature which allows us to perceive the multiplicity of the

world as a reality. The objects of the world are perceived as

separate entities instead of what they truly are: Brahman. This

ignorance is based on the information our brains gather from the

senses rather than from that which is gathered through the higher

intuitional capacities (The Higher Self). The light represents

intuitional wisdom of the truth whereby the questions about the

origin of the world, humanity, etc., become irrelevant since time,

space and physical reality are illusions, only Brahman exists. One

sees oneself as Brahman therefore, one sees only oneself in

existence. Relatives, people, the sun, planets are all oneself.

Illusory modification made it seem like there was a multiplicity of

different objects in existence. Vedanta philosophy holds that there

are four planes of existence and that the human being is really a

composite of three bodies and five sheaths or layers. In this

manner, the divine self (Brahman) expresses itself in the form of

nature and living being. The Planes: (1)Gross Plane-consisting of

the gross elements and the senses. (2)Subtle Plane-consisting of

subtle elements that may be perceived through extra sensory

perception. (3)Subtler Plane-the intellect; here the ego is

transcended and one experiences higher forms of being. (4)Subltest

Plane-this is the level of the causal body. The Bodies: (1)Physical

Body, (2)Astral Body, (3)Causal Body. The Five Sheaths (coverings):

(1)Food sheath (Anandamaya Kosha), (2)Pranic Sheath-Vital energy

(Pranamaya Kosha), (3)Mind Sheath (Manomaya Kosha), (4)Intellect

Sheath (Vijnamaya Kosha), (5)Bliss Sheath (one transcends the ego

and the body and experiences the spirit). Vedanta Yoga (Jnana Yoga)-

the Yoga of wisdom is Yoga based on insight onto the nature of

worldly existence and the transcendental Self, thereby transforming

one's consciousness through development of wisdom faculty.

 

A True Guru (Sri Swami) A Guru is not only someone who is advanced

on the spiritual path or even just someone who has reached the fully

enlightened state. A Guru, in the Upanishad ( teachings of the

Indian Upanishads) sense of the word, is someone who is spiritually

enlightened and who also is well versed in the scriptural teachings

teachings and methods of training aspirants according to their and

methods of training aspirants according to their level of

understanding. Therefore, a counselor of Yoga must first achieve a

high degree of understanding and personal-spiritual emancipation

since the subtleties of the mind must be well understood. The

teacher must be able to be a refuge for all people, have the ability

to succeed in his or her struggle, have complete knowledge of the

teachings pertaining to her of his level of attainment, and

enthusiastically pursue all forms of Yoga. The Guru, is referred to

as the weighty one of enlightener of the cave, is so called because

his or her judgment and counsel are weighty and that person shines

the light of wisdom on the darkness of ignorance in the cave of the

heart. The Advaya-Taraka-Upanishad speaks of the Guru in the

following way: The (true) teacher is well versed in the Veda (wisdom

teachings), a devotee of Vishnu (God, The Self), free from envy,

pure, a knower of Yoga and intent on Yoga, and always having the

nature of Yoga. Yoga is a universal religion. It gives insight into

every religion….Yoga embraces all religions of the world. It does

not see the need of contradicting then. Its interest lies in giving

a wider meaning to one's love for God. What is contradicted is

limitation in understanding God, and a mental obstruction in

developing love of God. All great mystics, saints and seers in all

parts of the world proclaim the same reality, but in different

expressions, in different languages. Many scriptures admonish the

aspirant to submit to and serve the Guru in all things since the

Guru's contact with the Absolute (Brahman) gives him or her a unique

insight and unfailing understanding of the teachings and the human

mind. The relative scarcity of Self-realized Gurus has led many

seekers to disappointing experiences. In modern times many self-

proclaimed Gurus who required absolute obedience have exploited many

seekers, prompting a mistrust in Gurus. Western television

evangelists and local preachers have also tarnished the view of

spirituality in the minds of many. Guru-yoga of the practice of

submission to the Guru's will in all matters is still practiced

around the world. A personality who is perfect on his or her

identification with the transcendental Self has been seen as an

embodiment of the teaching itself an is, therefore, deserving of the

full veneration as an incarnation of the Divine. However, the

relatively few numbers of truly realized personalities has given

rise to many self-styled spiritual personalities, not only in modern

times, but in ancient times as well. The Kula-Arnava-Tantra

(xiii.106ff) from around 500 A.C. speaks on this issue: "O Devi

(Goddess), there are many Gurus on the earth who give what is other

than Self, but hard to find in all the worlds is the Guru who

reveals the Self. Many are the Gurus who rob the disciple of his

wealth, but rare is the Guru who removes the disciple's afflictions.

He is the (true) Guru by whose very contact (association) there

flows the supreme Bliss (ananda). The intelligent person should

choose such a one as his Guru and none other." Many teachers

(psychologists, psychiatrists, yoga instructors) are deluded as to

their understanding of the scriptures and of their own attainment.

This ignorance results in their failure to cope with their own

afflictions as well as the afflictions of others and their inability

to help others in a permanent way. Due to their ineffectiveness in

their own professional and personal life, the erring teacher is

unable to provide treatment to others which is viable and therefore,

lasting. The teaching is often understood differently at different

levels. Just as there are increasing levels of religious practice

(Myth-Ritual-Mystical) there are varying levels of aspirants. Only

one who has experienced and matured to greater levels of attainment

through personality integration can assist others in understanding

those higher levels. Here, personality integration refers to the

extent that the individual has realized his or her own ego-lessness

and identification with the transcendental Self. One on the

spiritual path who intends to help others needs to understand this

well by first helping him or her self, by profoundly practicing the

teachings. An authentic teacher of Yoga philosophy is someone who

is advanced on the path of self-control, indifferent to both

positive or negative situations, unaffected by praise or censure.

Such a teacher is not desirous of any object in the phenomenal world

and thus able to utilize various objects and manage various

situations in a detached manner for the welfare of humanity. He or

she has discovered inner fulfillment and is a wellspring of joy and

peace to al they meet. They are not interested in developing

relationships with students based on emotionality or other egoistic

sensibilities. They do not keep disciples as servants for their own

amusement or to inflate their own egos, because they have

transcended all of these human frailties. They are fulfilled through

their realization of their own divinity and help others out of the

compassion and universal love which flow through their realization

of their own divinity and help others out of the compassion and

universal love which flow through them directly from the divine

source. In this manner Sages carry out the work of enlightening

others and relieving the pain of life. The actions of a Sage affect

incalculable numbers of people because their actions ripple through

the world as a wave ripples across a calm lake when a stone is

thrown into it. By their writings, expositions, subtle spiritual

influence, and their example as living embodiments of wisdom, they

have an effect on the course of the world and on all with whom they

come into contact, whether directly or indirectly. Enlightenment

occurs in degrees like the sun rising at dawn. The light of wisdom

grows; this light grows infinity. As a person grows in inner peace

and inner awareness, they are moving towards Enlightenment.

Therefore, there are different degrees of teachers. It is acceptable

to have advanced Yoga instructors (disciples) provide initial Yoga

instruction including the introduction of exoteric and esoteric

knowledge and providing support and encouragement to aspirants, but

as a rule, the lower level priests or priestesses do not initiate

the disciple into the subtle mysteries of advanced spirituality.

This role is reserved for a fully enlightened Guru or spiritual

master. A preceptor is a teacher who may not have the function of a

Guru, or spiritual guide proper. It should be noted here that

enlightened personalities are not necessarily to be known as Gurus.

They may reside in any part of the world and may be engaged in

various activities or occupations. They may not write voluminous

works of philosophy or preach, yet they are Sages nonetheless. What

denotes them is their way of working, the manner in which they deal

with life and how they serve humanity through their work. Also they

may be either male or female. Thus, in order to be effective,

preceptorship needs to be given by those who are part of a lineage

of true spiritual practitioners. So the leader as well as the lowest

order of clergy can provide adequate spiritual support to society.

This will occur if their teaching is authentic, if they teach at the

level of their individual attainment and individual personal

practice, and if they receive proper guidance from the level of

priesthood above their own. If one of these areas is deficient, the

temple system will be inadequate to meet the spiritual needs of the

community as well as the clergy itself. The Yoga Vasistha text

states the importance of teaching wisdom of the self as a way of

raising one's spiritual consciousness. This is because, by keeping

the teachings foremost in the mind through the teaching process, it

(mind) does not stray to sense objects or to other distractions. The

mind, therefore, flows to the Absolute in a continuous manner. Sage

Vasistha :One who is ceaselessly devoted to Brahman (God), who

exists for the sake of the Self, who rejoices in talking about

Brahman, and who is engaged in enlightening others about their

essential nature, he attains Liberation even in this life. III. 9:1,

Since all human problems are understood as proceeding from the

original cause of ignorance of one's true nature, all efforts are

directed to dispelling the mental illusions which lead to

misunderstanding of spiritual truth. So from my understanding, to

this effect the program of Yoga is imparted in three stages.

(1)"Shravana" Listening to the wisdom teachings. The nature of

reality (creation) and the nature of the Self. (2)"Manana"

Reflecting on those teachings and incorporating them into daily

life. (3)"Niddidhyasana" Meditation on the meaning of the teachings.

Lastly, it would be an exceedingly great error for someone to claim

to be realized spiritual master if they are not. This is because the

psychic illusion that would be created within their own mind would

hamper their own spiritual movement. However, the imitation of

spiritual personalities and their behavior is permitted and even

promoted to the extent that is grounded in reality and honesty. The

idea is that we are what we feel, act, believe and think. Therefore,

as we feel, act, believe and think in a particular way, we become

like onto that. Therefore, it is all right to emulate the qualities

of a Sage because this process helps to control the ego and promote

the process of becoming Sagely. The Holy Prophet Noble Drew Ali

(Sheik Sharif Abdul Ali) was a true Guru. At the age of 16 he

studied under Masters in Egypt, Arabia, and India.

 

Know ye not that ye are Gods, is it not written in your law that ye

are Gods?--Jesus

 

To the Ad people, (We sent) Hud, one of their (own) brethren: He

said: "O my people! Worship Allah! Ye have no other God but him.

Will ye not fear (Allah)?"--Mohammed

 

If you think the Law is outside of yourself, you are embracing not

absolute Law but some inferior teaching.--Buddha

 

What the undeveloped man seeks is outside; what the advanced man

seeks is within himself.--Confucius

 

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Peace!

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Hari OM!

 

in your article lot of false information.

 

one is as below

 

You wrote:

 

The Rig (Rik) Veda is a compilation of

religious doctrines which are known to have partially originated

with the invaders (Aryans) who came into India around the year 2,000

B.C. - 1,500 B.C.

 

My comments:

 

 

THIS IS TOTALLY FALSE, NO ARYANS CAME TO INDIA TO INVADE INDIA, IT IS

ALL A MAKE UP BY THE BRITISH PEOPLE BY BRIBING MAX MULLER, REFER TO MY

POST AT ADVAITIN GROUP.REGARDING THIS. EVEN BBC CONFIRMED IT AND THE SO

CALLED MODERN SCIENCE PROVED IT SCIENTIFICALLY THROUGH DNA TEST, INDIANS

HAVE A UNIQUE KIND OF DNA AND IT CANNOT BE COMPARED WITH SO CALLED ARYANS.

 

You Wrote:

 

The Rig Veda pertains social customs of racism and

sexism in character due to their development of a caste system in

which those who were dark skinned and women in general were

classified as beings of lower status.

 

THIS IS ALSO FALSE, YOU NEVER STUDIED RIGVEDA PROPERLY UNDER A GURU

 

You Wrote:

 

 

 

In India, 800 B.C. the earlier

Vedic-Aryan religious teachings related to the God, Indra 1,000

B.C., were supplanted by the teachings related to the Upanishadic

and Vaishnava tradition of Vishnu worship which includes the

devotion to God in the form of the Vishnu avatars Rama and Krishna.

The Vaishnava tradition was developed by the indigenous Indian

peoples to counter the religion imposed on them by the Vedic Aryans.

 

My comments

 

TOTALLY FALSE THERE WERE NO ARYANS INVADED INDIA AT ALL THIS IS ALL THE WORK

OF BRITISH AND ASIATIC SOCEITY CORRUPTING INDIA'S HISTORY

PLEASE DO NOT POST THIS KIND OF FALSE INFORMATION

 

I do not want to comment anymore, waiting for knowledgable members view on

this.

 

Thanks

 

Krishna Prasad

[Guest guest]

advaitin, Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99@g...> wrote:

>

> Hari OM!

>

> in your article lot of false information.

>

> one is as below

>

> You wrote:

>

> The Rig (Rik) Veda is a compilation of

> religious doctrines which are known to have partially originated

> with the invaders (Aryans) who came into India around the year 2,000

> B.C. - 1,500 B.C.

 

Namaste,

 

There are official dates and real ones, there is official history and

reality.

All people in the world are descended from 36 females only.?

 

The Rig Veda describes the sky as it was about 8000 BC.

 

India was bigger in those days, covering Iran and Central Asia.

 

http://www.bharatvani.org/books/ait/

 

My guess at the Mahabharata is about 3500 BC, and the Ramayana 20,000-

150,000 BC..................ONS...Tony

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Krishna Prasadji,

 

advaitin, Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99@g...> wrote:

>

> Hari OM!

>

> in your article lot of false information.

 

 

Yes, the information is false.

The Vedas are apaurusheya.

Indian History has to be re-written.

The interpretive framework of history has to be redefined.

 

If you've read about how William Jones derived the key date linking

Indian history to European history, you will be amazed at the vacuuity

on which the conclusion is based. There are two important clues based

on which William Jones worked. The first is a clue from a 2000 year-old

text. The only problem is that no one knows what this text is. Jones

did not name it, neither did he share it with anybody. He merely said

that he was quoting from it (in an Asiatic Society lecture). The second

clue came from an obscure political tragedy which Jones said was

written by an author called Somadeva. Jones did not name which work of

Somadeva's it was. Nobody knows even today which work of Somadeva's it

is. The only thing that we know is that there was one Somadeva who was

known to have written frivolous stories and not serious stuff like

political tragedies. But William Jones uses this unnamed book to

identify the king Sandracottus (mentioned by Magesthenes) with

Chandragupta.

 

Did you also know that the book 'Indica' which Megasthenes wrote and

which was the basis for Jones' work had already been destroyed before

the time of Jones. Jones got his material from other Greek authors who

had quoted the 'Indica'. And one of these Greek authors (Strabo) from

whose work Jones takes the accounts of Magesthenes has this to say

about Megesthenes:

 

"Generally speaking the men who have written on the affairs of India

were a set of liars. Deimachos is first, Megasthenes comes the next."

 

Based on Megasthenes' accounts of India, Herodotus, the so-called

father of History (as declared by the Western academy), says that

Indians kill and eat the raw flesh of their relatives who fall sick,

that Indian men and women mate in the open like animals, that Indians

chase tall ants that lead them to tunnels where gold is hidden, and so

on and so forth.

 

Our history has been raped.

 

Warm regards,

Chittaranjan

[Guest guest]

Hari OM!

 

Great and Thanks much for sharing the real knowledge Chittranjanji.

 

With Love & OM!

 

Krishna Prasad

 

 

On 11/29/05, Chittaranjan Naik <chittaranjan_naik wrote:

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> Dear Sri Krishna Prasadji,

>

> advaitin, Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Hari OM!

> >

> > in your article lot of false information.

>

>

> Yes, the information is false.

> The Vedas are apaurusheya.

> Indian History has to be re-written.

> The interpretive framework of history has to be redefined.

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste Satsanghis:

 

First, let me apologize to you all for allowing the article by Sri

Milton to appear on this list. Though the thread title appears to

fall within the scope of this list, the materials presented by him

certainly fall beyond the scope of this list.

 

As always, let me thank you in advance for cooperation and

understanding.

 

Harih Om!

 

Ram Chandran

 

advaitin, "Milton E. Moore-Bey"

<miltonmoore@s...> wrote:

>

> Greetings!

>

> The Holy Koran of the Moorish Science Temple of America (Circle

> Seven). Chapter 6-Life and Works of Jesus In India Among the