Shankara GItA BhAshya 18-50- Samskritam, maths etc etc!

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First, our heartfelt thanks to shriman Sunder-ji for rising to the

occassion and issueing a clarification on the Homepage Sloka from the

Gita Bhasya ! WE ALWAYS ADMIRE HIS 'NISHKAMYA' SEVA TO THIS SATSANGH?

DON'T WE ? i remember how he helped me with the word 'vandyaa putra'

( the son of a barren woman) - it was the spelling which made all

the difference !

 

Nair-ji, you are 'incredible' and it is true that Samskritam is a

deva bhasha and is therefore we must treat this language with the

respect it truly deserves ! If Hanumanji can be the 'ninth

grammarian' WE CAN ALSO STRIVE TO BE THE 'MILLIONTH' GRAMMARIAN !

SMILE !

 

Wow , what a difference a 'dash' can make to the meaning of a text !

i know you are relentless in your pursuit of 'Truth' and your search

for 'truth' helps one and all in the group !

 

wow! the word 'Bhutam' - how many different ways of 'interpreting'

this ? Depends where it is placed in a sentence and how it is placed?

 

Here i would like to recall the words of Kanchi Paramacharya on Lord

Siva and how the science of 'Grammar' originated from his cosmic

dance as Nataraja !

 

Adau pani-ninadato' ksara-samamnayopadesena yah

 

Sabdanamanusasananyakalayat sastrena sutratmana

 

Bhasyam tasya ca padahamsakaravaih praudhasayam tam gurum

 

Sabdarthapratipatti-hetumanisam Candravatamsam bhaje

 

--- Sahitya-Ratnakara, 11. 124

 

"Aksara-samamnayam" in this stanza means grammar, a grouping together

of letters. Isvara's breath constitutes the Vedas. The wind produced

by his hand [as he beats the drum] is "Aksara-Veda", the Mahesvara-

sutras. It is called "sabdanusasanam". "Pani-ninadatah"

means "produced sounds with your hands" or "the sounds came by to

Panini". Thus the words have two meanings. The idea is that Panini

created his grammar with the sounds produced by Isvara with his hand.

 

The stanza goes on to say: "With the movement of your hand the sutras

of grammar were created and with the movement of your feet its

commentary has been produced. " Patanjali, author of the Mahabhasya,

was an incarnation of the primordial serpent Adisesa. Adisesa is now

the anklet of Parameshvara. It is in keeping with this that the poet

says that Siva created the bhasya with the movement of his feet. He

concludes by remarking that sound and meaning originate in Siva.

 

In this way, Siva is the prime source of grammar. That is why there

are mandapas in his temples where vyakarana is to be taught.

 

http://kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part7/chap2.htm

 

'Grammar is associated with Shabdabrahman ! worship of Nadabrahman'

is also part of this says our paramacharya !

 

On another note : you know i am not a 'maths' buff ! Although i do

admire Dr. Raju's valiant attempt to come up with a maths model in

Advaita ! however, i cannot imagine myself calling a Jiva 'a beta'

and an ishwara a 'theta' and Maya a 'tan' .... no! way ! The entire

beauty of the adwaitic language will be lost by designating them with

this Nomenclature !Imagine calling 'Brahman' *sine theta *?

 

What appeals to us all most about Ai Shankara Bhagvadapada's is his

beautiful use of the Sanskrit Language to describe certain adwaitic

principles ?

 

here is how Sister Nivedita describes Adi Shankara"

 

She offered her tribute to him in the following words : "Westerners

can hardly imagine a personality like that of Sankaracharya. We

contemplate with wonder and delight the devotion of Francis of

Assisi, the intellect of Abelard, the virile force and freedom of

Martin Luther and the political efficiency of Ignatius Loyala; but

who could imagine all these united in one person?"

 

ADI SHANKARA'S SAUNDARYA Lahari Is a MASTERPIECE!

 

ON aanother note, during the recent Hurricane season in the united

States, they ran out of names to describe the Hurricanes and so they

started using greek letters like 'alpha, beta' etc ! bUT COMPARE THAT

TO CALLING A HURRICANE 'IVAN' ? Ivan the terrible, is not it ? and

*KATRINA *by any other name would not sound so devastating !

 

This does not meant Ganitam is not a shastra ! iT IS USED WIDELY IN

JYOTISH SHASTRA BY HINDUS ! INn Jainism, Mahavira himself has been

claimed as a mathematician. The credit for giving maths the form of

an abstract discipline goes to the Jainas.The Jainas recognized five

different kinds of infinity. They were the first to conceive of

transfinite numbers, a concept, which was brought to Europe by Cantor

in the late 19th century. The two thousand year old Jaina literature

may hold valuable clues to the very nature of mathematics.

 

But , Rajuji i did enjoy your mention of the 'two birds' on the tree

from the Mundaka upanishads !

 

"Two birds living together, each the friend of the other, perch upon

the same tree. Of these two, one eats the sweet fruit of the tree,

but the other simply looks on without eating. "

 

i liked that allegory a lot while discussing 'jiva and ishwara'

 

Harihi Aum!

 

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin, "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh>

wrote:

> Allady Mahadeva Sastry translation of this is:

>

>> Regards,

>

> Sunder

>

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advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

>

> First, our heartfelt thanks to shriman Sunder-ji for rising to the

> occassion and issueing a clarification on the Homepage Sloka from the

> Gita Bhasya ! WE ALWAYS ADMIRE HIS 'NISHKAMYA' SEVA TO THIS SATSANGH?