The shores of Bharat where men of all races have come together !

[Guest guest]

Chitta writes:

 

( "The answer to all these questions is rooted in one simple fact –

the fact that we Hindus have forsaken our dharma.)

 

May i please recall the golden words of Thakore Rabindranath tagore ?

 

 

"On the shores of Bharat, where men of all races have come together,

awake, O my Mind! Standing here with outstretched arms, I send my

salutation to the God of Humanity, and in great joy sing His

praises. Trees lost in the depths of meditation, fields adorned

with rosary-like rivers, I see the holy land everyday on the shores

of Bharat, where men of all races have come together,

 

 

"At whose invitation no one knows, came floating streams of men,

and merged into the sea of the Aryans, the non-Aryans, the

Dravidians, the Huns, the Pathans and the Mughals-- they have all

merged here into one single body. Today the West has opened its

portals from where flow gifts. Giving and receiving, all will be

welcome on the shores of Bharat where men of all races have come

together."

 

 

 

"In mad exultation, singing songs of victory, have they arrived

crossing deserts and mountains; they all dwell within me and in my

blood echo their exotic melodies. O Rudravina, play on your music;

even those, whom in disdain we kept apart, will gather round you on

the shores of Bharat, where men of all races have come together."

 

"Here one day in the hearts of men the solemn sound of OM

reverberated unceasingly. In the fire of tapas'ya all differences

were forgotten, and the many forged into one. At that sacrificial

altar, we all have to meet with bowed heads and unite on the shores

of Bharat, where men of all races have come together.

 

 

 

"In that sacrificial fire, the blood-red flame of suffering is aglow.

O my Mind, bear this suffering and hear the call of the One. Conquer

all shame, fear, and let vanish all humiliations. What enriched life

will emerge at the end of the days of unbearable suffering! The night

ends, and the great Mother is awake "

 

"Come, O Aryan and non-Aryan, Hindu and Moslem, come, O English,

Christian, come, O Brahmin, purify your mind and link the hands

of all. Come, O downtrodden, and let vanish the yoke of your

humiliation. Tarry not, come you all to anoint the Mother, the

auspicious vessel is yet to be filled with the water sanctified by

the touch of all on the shores of Bharat, where men of all races

have come together."

 

RABINDRANATH TAGORE

 

( translated by Sri Aurobindo Bose )

 

 

http://www.msci.memphis.edu/~ramamurt/gems/gem280.html

 

I liked what sri Ramji had to say in his post ...

 

"That is why the India (the Hindu country) has a Muslim President

(Kalam), Sikh Prime Minister (Manmohan Singh) and a christian chief

political advisor (Sonia Gandhi)!"

 

 

Yes ! Look at the U.S.A - in this great country , has there been

a 'black' President or a 'woman' president ?

 

Yes, true! India has been facing a lot of problems in recent years -

there have been communal riots , not to speak of natural calamities.

 

but don't be disheartened! forget Max Mueller; dONOT EVEN WORRY ABOUT

THE ARYAN INVASION THEOTY !

 

INSTEAD, REJOICE AND SING ECSTATICALLY :

 

"To thy race, O India, God himself once sang the Song of Songs divine,

Upon thy dust Gouranga danced and drank God-love's mysterious wine,

Here the Sannyasin Son of Kings lit up compassion's deathless sun,

The youthful Yogin, Shankar, taught thy gospel: "I and He are one."

 

India, my India, who dare call thee a thing for pity's grace today?

Mother of wisdom, worship, works, nurse of the spirit's inward ray!

 

Art thou not she, that India, where the Aryan Rishis chanted high

The Veda's deep and dateless hymns and are we not their progeny?

Armed with that great tradition we shall walk the earth with heads

unbowed:

 

O Mother, those who bear that glorious past may well be brave and

proud!

 

( TRANSLATED BY SRI AUROBINDO IN 1941)

 

http://www.boloji.com/poetry/1100-1200/1176.htm -

 

Yes ! Lets us be proud of Bharat and the other three Bharatas - 1)

Sri rama's brother Bharat For his Devotion 2) THE CHERISHED KING

BHARATA , SON OF shakuntala and Dushyanta and of course Bhata muni,

the author natya shastra ( how can i foget my guru? )

 

SALUTIONS TO MOTHER AND MOTHERLAND!

[Guest guest]

advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote: (#29074)

>

> >

> Yes ! Lets us be proud of Bharat and the other three Bharatas - 1)

> Sri rama's brother Bharat For his Devotion 2) THE CHERISHED KING

> BHARATA , SON OF shakuntala and Dushyanta and of course Bharata

muni,

> the author natya shastra ( how can i foget my guru? )

>

> SALUTIONS TO MOTHER AND MOTHERLAND!

 

 

Namaste Adi-ji

 

There was a fourth Bharata, in fact the earliest Bharata, after whom

this land was called BhArata-varsha. He was JaDabharata, whose story

is told in the Bhagavatam. See

http://www.geocities.com/profvk/VK2/SBAB7.html

 

PraNAms to JaDaBharata the great Brahma-jnAni.

profvk

[Guest guest]

Dear AdiMa,

 

advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

 

> > ("The answer to all these questions is rooted in

> > one simple fact – the fact that we Hindus have

> > forsaken our dharma.)

 

> "On the shores of Bharat, where men of all races have come

> together, awake, O my Mind! Standing here with outstretched

> arms, I send my salutation to the God of Humanity, and in great

> joy sing His praises. Trees lost in the depths of meditation,

> fields adorned with rosary-like rivers, I see the holy land

> everyday on the shores of Bharat, where men of all races

> have come together,

> "Come, O Aryan and non-Aryan, Hindu and Moslem, come, O English,

> Christian, come, O Brahmin, purify your mind and link the hands

> of all. Come, O downtrodden, and let vanish the yoke of your

> humiliation. Tarry not, come you all to anoint the Mother, the

> auspicious vessel is yet to be filled with the water sanctified by

> the touch of all on the shores of Bharat, where men of all races

> have come together."

>

> but don't be disheartened! forget Max Mueller;

> dONOT EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE ARYAN INVASION THEOTY !

>

> INSTEAD, REJOICE AND SING ECSTATICALLY :

 

 

AdiMa, these words are very beautiful. But I believe the context of

the discussion was slightly different.

 

I would not rejoice and sing ecstatically when my children, whom I

have sent to school to be educated, come back with the 'education'

that the Aryans invaded India.

 

Do you remember the poem by Alfred Tennyson? - The Charge of the

Light Brigade.

 

Half a league, half a league,

Half a league onward,

All in the valley of Death

Rode the six hundred.

"Forward, the Light Brigade!

"Charge for the guns!" he said:

Into the valley of Death

Rode the six hundred.

 

Cannon to right of them,

Cannon to left of them,

Cannon in front of them

Volley'd and thunder'd;

Storm'd at with shot and shell,

Boldly they rode and well,

Into the jaws of Death,

Into the mouth of Hell

Rode the six hundred.

 

 

There is a poem and a song in the valour of these men of the Light

Brigade. Nero was rejoicing and singing when Rome burned, but I do

not believe there is any song in it, nor anything to rejoice about.

 

Just my point of view. :-)

 

Warm regards,

Chittaranjan

[Guest guest]

advaitin, "Chittaranjan Naik"

<chittaranjan_naik> wrote:

>

> Dear AdiMa,

>

> advaitin, "adi_shakthi16"

<adi_shakthi16>

> wrote:

>

>

> > > ("The answer to all these questions is rooted in

> > > one simple fact – the fact that we Hindus have

> > > forsaken our dharma.)

>

>

> > "On the shores of Bharat, where men of all races have come

> > together, awake, O my Mind! Standing here with outstretched

> > arms, I send my salutation to the God of Humanity, and in great

> > joy sing His praises. Trees lost in the depths of meditation,

> > fields adorned with rosary-like rivers, I see the holy land

> > everyday on the shores of Bharat, where men of all races

> > have come together,

>

> > "Come, O Aryan and non-Aryan, Hindu and Moslem, come, O English,

> > Christian, come, O Brahmin, purify your mind and link the hands

> > of all. Come, O downtrodden, and let vanish the yoke of your

> > humiliation. Tarry not, come you all to anoint the Mother, the

> > auspicious vessel is yet to be filled with the water sanctified

by

> > the touch of all on the shores of Bharat, where men of all races

> > have come together."

> >

> > but don't be disheartened! forget Max Mueller;

> > dONOT EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE ARYAN INVASION THEOTY !

> >

> > INSTEAD, REJOICE AND SING ECSTATICALLY :

>

>

> AdiMa, these words are very beautiful. But I believe the context

of

> the discussion was slightly different.

>

> I would not rejoice and sing ecstatically when my children, whom I

> have sent to school to be educated, come back with the 'education'

> that the Aryans invaded India.

>

>

>

> There is a poem and a song in the valour of these men of the Light

> Brigade. Nero was rejoicing and singing when Rome burned, but I do

> not believe there is any song in it, nor anything to rejoice about.

>

> Just my point of view. :-)

>

> Warm regards,

> Chittaranjan

>

 

 

Namaste:

 

Before we come to terms with the history, we must know or at least

try to know our history and learn from it that our ancestors failed

to see the reality of Moghal as well as the British.

 

But singing the glories of British we are fooling ourselves.

 

If we do not recognize and then acknowledge the problems then we

will continue to do the same mistakes.

 

ishavaasya tell us - hiraNmayena paatreNa satyasaapihitam mukham |

tat tvaM puuShna apaavR^iNu satya dhrmaaya dR^iShTye

 

The glitter we received from British was certainly not Gold, not

even Gold Plated iron. Unfortunately we thought that to be the

Gold. That means that our immediate ancestors failed to understand

the significance of IshoipaniShad.

 

Defining the problem adequately is the first step for any solution.

 

Saint raamadaasa svaami in daasabodha gives a very practical

methodology that applies equally to vyaavahaarika as well as

paaramaarthika levels. He says:

 

tasmaata vicaara karaava | deva koNa to voLakhaava |

aaplya aapaNa shodha ghyaavaa | antarayaami ||

 

Liberal meaning - Think and find out for yourself what you are

regarding a devataa, whether it true "devata" or not?

 

This month is a role of saguNa upaasanaa. May be we and try to

learn and remove the tarnish of our partial understanding of our

real heritage.

 

hariH OM tat sat !

 

Dr. Yadu

[Guest guest]

respected aadi maa,

as of now, hindus have become a

minority in quite of a few states. 70% of the wealth

of india is already in the hands of the minorities.

the demographic and economic

trends will certainly progess at the same pace, and

hindus will become minorities in india within the next

30 to 40 years.

would you hazard a guess as to how

many of the "democratically elected" leaders of the

then majority communities will remember the "

glorious DHARMA " of the bharatas?

if we DONT WAKE UP EVEN NOW, YOUR

GRANDCHILDREN WILL HAVE NO HOME-LAND TO GO BACK TO,

AND THEY WILL NO MORE BE NRIs BECAUSE THE "I" IN THE

"NRI" WOULD HAVE CEASED TO EXIST.

regardfully yours,

a.v.krshnan.

 

--- ymoharir <ymoharir wrote:

> advaitin, "Chittaranjan Naik"

>

> <chittaranjan_naik> wrote:

> >

> > Dear AdiMa,

> >

> > advaitin, "adi_shakthi16"

> <adi_shakthi16>

> > wrote:

> >

> >

> > > > ("The answer to all these questions is rooted

> in

> > > > one simple fact – the fact that we Hindus have

>

> > > > forsaken our dharma.)

> >

> >

> > > "On the shores of Bharat, where men of all races

> have come

> > > together, awake, O my Mind! Standing here with

> outstretched

> > > arms, I send my salutation to the God of

> Humanity, and in great

> > > joy sing His praises. Trees lost in the depths

> of meditation,

> > > fields adorned with rosary-like rivers, I see

> the holy land

> > > everyday on the shores of Bharat, where men of

> all races

> > > have come together,

> >

> > > "Come, O Aryan and non-Aryan, Hindu and Moslem,

> come, O English,

> > > Christian, come, O Brahmin, purify your mind and

> link the hands

> > > of all. Come, O downtrodden, and let vanish the

> yoke of your

> > > humiliation. Tarry not, come you all to anoint

> the Mother, the

> > > auspicious vessel is yet to be filled with the

> water sanctified

> by

> > > the touch of all on the shores of Bharat, where

> men of all races

> > > have come together."

> > >

> > > but don't be disheartened! forget Max Mueller;

> > > dONOT EVEN WORRY ABOUT THE ARYAN INVASION THEOTY

> !

> > >

> > > INSTEAD, REJOICE AND SING ECSTATICALLY :

> >

> >

> > AdiMa, these words are very beautiful. But I

> believe the context

> of

> > the discussion was slightly different.

> >

> > I would not rejoice and sing ecstatically when my

> children, whom I

> > have sent to school to be educated, come back with

> the 'education'

> > that the Aryans invaded India.

> >

> >

> >

> > There is a poem and a song in the valour of these

> men of the Light

> > Brigade. Nero was rejoicing and singing when Rome

> burned, but I do

> > not believe there is any song in it, nor anything

> to rejoice about.

> >

> > Just my point of view. :-)

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Chittaranjan

> >

>

>

> Namaste:

>

> Before we come to terms with the history, we must

> know or at least

> try to know our history and learn from it that our

> ancestors failed

> to see the reality of Moghal as well as the British.

>

> But singing the glories of British we are fooling

> ourselves.

>

> If we do not recognize and then acknowledge the

> problems then we

> will continue to do the same mistakes.

>

> ishavaasya tell us - hiraNmayena paatreNa

> satyasaapihitam mukham |

> tat tvaM puuShna apaavR^iNu satya dhrmaaya dR^iShTye

>

> The glitter we received from British was certainly

> not Gold, not

> even Gold Plated iron. Unfortunately we thought

> that to be the

> Gold. That means that our immediate ancestors

> failed to understand

> the significance of IshoipaniShad.

>

> Defining the problem adequately is the first step

> for any solution.

>

> Saint raamadaasa svaami in daasabodha gives a very

> practical

> methodology that applies equally to vyaavahaarika as

> well as

> paaramaarthika levels. He says:

>

> tasmaata vicaara karaava | deva koNa to voLakhaava |

> aaplya aapaNa shodha ghyaavaa | antarayaami ||

>

> Liberal meaning - Think and find out for yourself

> what you are

> regarding a devataa, whether it true "devata" or

> not?

>

> This month is a role of saguNa upaasanaa. May be

> we and try to

> learn and remove the tarnish of our partial

> understanding of our

> real heritage.

>

> hariH OM tat sat !

>

> Dr. Yadu

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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advaitin, av krshnan <avkrshnan> wrote:

>

> respected aadi maa,

>

> if we DONT WAKE UP EVEN NOW, YOUR

> GRANDCHILDREN WILL HAVE NO HOME-LAND TO GO BACK TO,

> AND THEY WILL NO MORE BE NRIs BECAUSE THE "I" IN THE

> "NRI" WOULD HAVE CEASED TO EXIST.

> regardfully yours,

> a.v.krshnan.

>

 

Namate Krishnan-Ji

 

You are correct.

 

NRI would then mean - A "Non-Relevant-Individual" singing the

academic glories of the past, engrossed in the virtual hope to

salvation in the next-birth (academic saguNa upaasanaa) rather than

recognizing the present poor sate of affairs.

 

I would prefer if we recognize the problems and stand on the

shoulders of our ancestors so that we can see much further than they

did during their life time. Then we can be grateful to our

ancestors for allowing us to stand on their shoulders.

 

Regards,

 

Dr. Yadu

[Guest guest]

Our beloved Dr.Yadu-ji Writes in his characterstic humorous style

 

( NRI would then mean - A "Non-Relevant-Individual" singing the

academic glories of the past, engrossed in the virtual hope to

salvation in the next-birth (academic saguNa upaasanaa) rather than

recognizing the present poor sate of affairs.)

 

Yaduji, that makes the 'two' of us! smile! Is it not true that

both of us live in the U.S. - i do not know about shri Krishnan-ji -

Of course HE lives in the hearts of 'US' all !- SHRI KRISHNA

PARAMATMA! As far as 'academics' is concerned , you are the

most 'academic' among all of us of in this group as is evident from

all your quoting of scriptures - including the vedas, puranas,

upanishads etc etc ! :-)

 

SO IF I AM A NON RELEVANT INDIAN, what difference does it make what i

say or don't say ? OR FOR THAT MATTER YOU AND ME ?

 

As far as my grandkids are concerned , they are in a state of SAT-

CHIT-ANANDA ? WHY SHOULD I DISTURB their innocent state of mind ! For

them, Home is where their Heart is and their Heart is in the right

place with love overflowing like Amrita nadi ! Why should i fill

their ears up with 'horror' stories about Gaza Strips in downtown

Baghdad and downtown Srinagar Or downtown Manhattan? !

 

did not our Ancients say ?

 

"atmano mokshartham jagat hitayacha"

 

At least , i can emphatize with Chitta and others who are now living

in India and facing the 'heat and dust' of current day politics and

the decline of Hindu Dharma ?

 

But you and i are in The U.S.A -so can we really complain or even

know what is really happening across the seven seas ?

 

love and regards

[Guest guest]

Yadu-ji writes :

 

( ishavaasya tell us - hiraNmayena paatreNa satyasaapihitam mukham |

tat tvaM puuShna apaavR^iNu satya dhrmaaya dR^iShTye)

 

The glitter we received from British was certainly not Gold, not

even Gold Plated iron. Unfortunately we thought that to be the

Gold. That means that our immediate ancestors failed to understand

the significance of IshoipaniShad.

 

Yadu-ji , this is my understanding of the sloka :

hiranmayena patrena satyasyapihitam mykham :

'The face of the Supreme Truth is covered by a golden disc.'

One prays, O "surya" golden sun , O controller of everything, remove

this golden disc that covers your face, so that I, who love the

Truth, may perceive It!'

 

or

 

I who love to see the 'Truth' request you, pray to you,

please remove this golden disc that covers your countenance,

so that I may come face to face with you as the Supreme Truth'

 

so, Prayer does help ! does it not ? Is not saguna upasana a form of

Prayer ?

 

Bhakti" or prayer, begins with faith;

 

*Gynana* or intellectual reasoning begins with doubt;

 

i would rather start with Bakti and end in Jnana

 

than start with Jnana and end in Agyana !

 

As long as the 'I' is superactive ( that OTHER'S' understanding is

flawed or mechanical ) WE ARE ALL STILL STRUGGLING IN THE REALM

OF 'EGO' ONLY!

 

i consider Mahatama Gandhiji MY MOST RESPECT ANCESTOR and he once

quoted Poet Shelley thus :

 

And then if thy tyrants dare,

 

Let them ride among you there,

 

Slash and slab, maim and hew,

 

What they like, let them do.

 

With folded arms and steady eyes,

 

And little fear and less surprise,

 

Look upon them as they slay,

 

Till their rage has died away.

 

Then they will turn with shame,

 

To the place from which they came,

 

And then the blood shed with speak,

 

In hot blushes in their cheek.

 

and it was Gandhiji who said 'if all the scriptures of the world were

burnt and if only the first verse of isa Upanishad remains , Hinduism

will survive ' or something to that effect - i cannot really recall

the exact quote !

 

and the first verse of Isa Upanishad says

 

 

All this what we see in this great universe is permeated by

God.

Renounce it and enjoy it.

Do not covet anybody's wealth or possession.

 

AND I BELIEVE IN GANDHIJI MORE THAN I BELIEVE IN ANYBODY ELSE

including the internet!

 

btw, yaduji- please provide the translation of the Mundaka upanishad

verse for the benefit of the non-sanskrit knowing audience - thank

you! we really appreciate all your noble efforts to educate us ...

But i sam grateful to the internet that i met a scholar like you! Big

SMILE !

 

LOVE and warm regards

[Guest guest]

advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

>

> >

> At least , i can emphatize with Chitta and others who are now living

> in India and facing the 'heat and dust' of current day politics and

> the decline of Hindu Dharma ?

>

> But you and i are in The U.S.A -so can we really complain or even

> know what is really happening across the seven seas ?

>

> love and regards

>

 

Namaste:

 

Thank you for letting us know how you feel. The take home message

what I gathered from your post – "just because I have lived in US for

28 years I should have no feeling for my mother land? Or I have no

idea what goes on there?

 

All I have to say is "WOW !!!"

 

Thank you

 

Dr. Yadu

 

PS: I am in the process of retiring and returning to India for good

and dedicate my remaining productive years in the repaying my my R^iNa

towards matrubhuumi. I do visit India every year often more than once

to keep my sanity in this American Zoo.

[Guest guest]

advaitin, "adi_shakthi16"

<adi_shakthi16> wrote:

>

>

> At least , i can emphatize with Chitta and others who are now

living

> in India and facing the 'heat and dust' of current day politics

and

> the decline of Hindu Dharma ?

>

> But you and i are in The U.S.A -so can we really complain or

even

> know what is really happening across the seven seas ?

>

> love and regards

>

 

Dear Adi-ji,

 

You can take me out of India, but you cannot take India out of me.

And I think this is true of many of us first generation immigrants.

In fact, viewing India from this distance puts many things in better

perspective.

 

Besides, I believe India is the spiritual mother to the world. That

is why we find many non-Indians too care about India.

 

Harih Om!

Neelakantan

[Guest guest]

Neelakanta-ji !

 

Yes ! If you read my earlier posts in the archives , you will note that

i have always quoted this dictum from Ramayana 'mother and Motherland

are dearer to me than Heaven' - 'janani and janmabhoomicha swargatapi

gariyasi' - so you and i are on the same wavelength - my comments were

simply a response to how Dr. Yadu-ji 's interpretation of the word '

Non-resident Indian' to 'non relevant indian' ! and if you recall, i

was just qupting some beautiful Tagore and Aurobindo verses to evoke

these feelings of love and patriotism to Matrubhumi!

 

 

What is now happening in India and elsewhere is a 'decline' of Dharma -

and remember, we are in 'kali yuga' !

 

AND , I RESONATE WITH YOUR WORDS WHEN YOU PROUDLY PROCLAIM '

" Besides, I believe India is the spiritual mother to the world. "

YES ! YES! YES! and soon it will be a 'technological' leader to the

world as well ! Smile!

 

if you read the history of the world , you will see that there has been

Religious persecution all over the world - in Hitler's Nazi Germany as

well !

 

here i recall the words of Swami Vivekananda

 

"We not only tolerate, but we Hindus accept every religion, praying in

the mosque of the Mohammedans, worshipping before the fire of the

Zoroastrians, and kneeling before the cross of the Christians, knowing

that all the religions, from the lowest fetishism to the highest

absolutism, mean so many attempts of the human soul to grasp and

realise the infinite, each determined by the conditions of its birth

and association, and each of them marking a stage of progress. We

gather all these flowers and bind them with the twine of love, making a

wonderful bouquet of worship."

 

Swami Vivekananda

(Complete Works, I-331)

 

IN ANY CASE , IN THE 26 LONG YEARS THAT I HAVE LIVED IN U.S.A , NOT

ONCE ANY CHRISTIAN HAS COME KNOCKING ON MY DOOR TO 'COVERT' ME AND IN

THE YEARS THAT I LIVED IN INDIA, I CAN SAY THE SAME THING! may be in

the u.s.a , once or twice, a jevoha's witness might have approached me

or a hare krishna devotee at the airport! that's all !

 

Anyway, to me 'spirituality' is the transformation of the heart and not

a simple matter of outward Conversion!

 

and to my friend Krishna Prasad , your points are well made but if you

recall i said the same thing about the translation of Max Muller !

 

Believe me , vedas and upanishads are hard to understand even if you

know Samskritam ; it is harder still to practice! Smile :-)

 

 

Even when one chooses rightly chiseled words, the message just won't

reach there.

 

"yato vAco nivartante

aprApya manasA saha"

 

(Taittiriya Upanishad)

 

- Words revert back without reaching there!

 

On this note , i want to end this controversial topic as i need to be

in the right frame of mind to start writing on 'bhakti and adwaitha'

otherwise i will be caught in this DUELITY ( DUALITY !!) of VADA AND

VIVADA!

 

and KP-JI, i would advise you to read Ken Knight-ji (a british

sadhaka) excellent interpretation of Rig Vedic terminology ! i have

learned more from him than from my own sanskrit teacher !

 

KP- READ THIS !

 

The Pearl

Said one oyster to a neighboring oyster, "I have a very great pain

within me. It is heavy and round and I am in distress."

 

And the other oyster replied with haughty complacence, "Praise be to

the heavens and to the sea, I have no pain within me. I am well and

whole both within and without."

 

At that moment a crab was passing by and heard the two oysters, and he

said to the one who was well and whole both within and without, "Yes,

you are well and whole; but the pain that your neighbor bears is a

pearl of exceeding beauty."

 

The Prophet and the Child

 

WHEN YOU DIVE DEEP, YOU FIND 'PEARLS' EVEN ON THE INTERNET !

 

LOVE AND REGARDS

[Guest guest]

those in india are not sensitiosed to the seriousness

of the issue. at least the netizens and NRIs are more

aware of such aspects.

av.krshnan.

--- ymoharir <ymoharir wrote:

> advaitin, "adi_shakthi16"

> <adi_shakthi16>

> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > At least , i can emphatize with Chitta and others

> who are now living

> > in India and facing the 'heat and dust' of current

> day politics and

> > the decline of Hindu Dharma ?

> >

> > But you and i are in The U.S.A -so can we really

> complain or even

> > know what is really happening across the seven

> seas ?

> >

> > love and regards

> >

>

> Namaste:

>

> Thank you for letting us know how you feel. The

> take home message

> what I gathered from your post – "just because I

> have lived in US for

> 28 years I should have no feeling for my mother

> land? Or I have no

> idea what goes on there?

>

> All I have to say is "WOW !!!"

>

> Thank you

>

> Dr. Yadu

>

> PS: I am in the process of retiring and returning to

> India for good

> and dedicate my remaining productive years in the

> repaying my my R^iNa

> towards matrubhuumi. I do visit India every year

> often more than once

> to keep my sanity in this American Zoo.

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Namaste to AdiMa and all other patriots,

 

advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

> Yes! If you read my earlier posts in the archives , you will

> note that i have always quoted this dictum from Ramayana

> 'mother and Motherland are dearer to me than Heaven' -

> 'janani and janmabhoomicha swargatapi gariyasi' - so you and

> i are on the same wavelength.......

> and if you recall, i was just qupting some beautiful Tagore

> and Aurobindo verses to evoke these feelings of love and

> patriotism to Matrubhumi!

 

Sometimes words have a way of going some place that they were not

meant to go. The Greek equivalent of the Sanskrit word 'viparya'

is 'aporia', and it derives from the root 'poros' which with the

prefix 'a' means 'a boat that has missed the target and run aground

some place else'. I believe that 'aporia' is what has been happening

here. Words have been flying all over, and poor AdiMa is responding

as if she has to justify her patriotic spirit. (AdiMa, if you are

listening, let me tell you that no one here on this list can

justifiably question your patriotism. You are a great patriot as is

evident from your posts now and in the past.) I think the 'aporia' in

this discussion began when, during our discussion on history, AdiMa

came up with some beautiful quotes from Tagore and Aurobindo, and I

said something about dharma and then the discussion got 'aporised'.

But AdiMa was talking about reverting back from the discussion on the

topic of the 'wrongs of history' to a discussion on the Song of

Oneness, and I need to be gracious enough to acknowledge that that is

the proper scope of discussion on this list dedicated to Oneness.

Nairji has gently reminded me of it today, and I see the justice of

his remarks. History may be discussed elsewhere; here we discuss

Advaita.

 

> On this note , i want to end this controversial topic as i

> need to be in the right frame of mind to start writing on

> 'bhakti and adwaitha' otherwise i will be caught in this

> DUELITY ( DUALITY !!) of VADA AND VIVADA!

 

Your wish shall be respected. Those of us who want to give our blood

to the country can do it elsewhere. :-)

 

Warm regards,

Chittaranjan

[Guest guest]

Chitta :

 

Thank you so much ! That was so touching !

 

you write :

 

" History may be discussed elsewhere; here we discuss

Advaita. "

 

I will even change this around and say that 'Adwaita is our history '

 

THE VEDAS, UPANISHADS, THE PURANAS, THE Mahabharata , The Ramayana ,

The Tantras and of Course the Srimad Bhagvata Gita - this is our

glorious past ; this is our glorius future too which has put Sanatan

Dharma on the spiritual world map ! Henery Thoreau , Ralph Waldo

Emerson, and even Carl Jung ssng praises of the scriptural text

Srimad Bhagvat Gita and consider it their 'bible'

 

and Chitta writes :

 

(Those of us who want to give our blood to the country can do it

elsewhere. :-))

 

and i would even change that a little bit and say 'What India needs

now more than ever before 'UNITY' ! We have shed enough 'blood and

tears ' in the past, now time to march on and say 'bhade chalo' -

march on; move on and sing with swami Vivekananda :

 

'Arise , Awake and stop not till the goal is reached'

 

and sing along with me :

 

Sri Aurobindo

(1908 & 1909)

 

 

Mother, I bow to thee!

Rich with thy hurrying streams,

Bright with thy orchard gleams,

Cool with thy winds of delight,

Dark fields waving, Mother of might,

Mother free.

Glory of moonlight dreams

Over thy branches and lordly streams,

Clad in thy blossoming trees,

Mother, giver of ease,

Laughing low and sweet!

Mother, I kiss thy feet,

Speaker sweet and low!

Mother, to thee I bow.

 

Who hath said thou art weak in thy lands,

When the swords flash out in twice seventy million hands

And seventy millions voices roar

Thy dreadful name from shore to shore?

With many strengths who art mighty and stored,

To thee I call, Mother and Lord!

Thou who savest, arise and save!

To her I cry who ever her foemen drave

Back from plain and sea

And shook herself free.

Thou art wisdom, thou art law,

Thou our heart, our soul, our breath,

Thou the love divine, the awe

In our hearts that conquers death.

Thine the strength that nerves the arm,

Thine the beauty, thine the charm.

Every image made divine

In our temples is but thine.

 

Thou art Durga, Lady and Queen,

With her hands that strike and her swords of sheen,

Thou art Lakshmi lotus-throned,

Pure and perfect without peer,

Mother, lend thine ear.

Rich with thy hurrying streams,

Bright with thy orchard gleams,

Dark of hue, O candid-fair

In thy soul, with jewelled hair

And thy glorious smile divine,

Loveliest of all earthly lands,

Showering wealth from well-stored hands!

Mother, mother mine!

Mother sweet, I bow to thee,

Mother great and free.

 

 

in SABCL, Volume 8 "Translations, From Sanskrit and Other Languages"

( and in Collected Poems 2, page 227)

published by Sri Aurobindo Ashram - Pondicherry

 

PS : THERE CAN BE A 'BAD' MOTHER LIKE ADI MA BUT THERE CAN NEVER BE A

BAD SON ! Smile: chitta , you are so 'adorable' !

 

love and (((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))