Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Bhakti and Desire (A double intende) In the Mind, each name, each word --- each syllable is like a signature --- it is like a seed --- it is the begginng of the description of an attribute of an object; but this is non-different from the first gleam of the presence of light shining forth as the suchness or thingness of that which has attributes. How therefore, can this be different from the light of consciousness - - considering the fact that each description -- each seed --- is an icon that triggers cognition. Triggering cognition - designating attribute - Self is implied as the designator - as cognizant -- as aware. That which shines forth as that seed or as the combined seeds, cannot then be seen as different from light\consciousness. Sounds then in the world being designated -- triggers attribution - icons of meaning are therefore also light\consciousness. All this - all that merely harbingers of consciousness shining forth as that; in this way there can be no overlaying - no hiding - no superimposition of light in light on light\consciousness. Light, words, thoughts, seeds, symbols, mantra, mtrka all are mere glints of light -- signatories of consciousness's shining as Conscious Light. But due to the superimposition of the Jiva upon the light of consciousness a god of form seems to arrise. Yet in the case of the knowable god arising in the conscious infinite it can be said that he\her\it is merely an icon\archetype for the omnipresent, thusly it is merely an implied god or Self of the I-ness of godhead. Such an implied God is implied by the existence of timeless conscience as the one who is conscious (conscious awareness implies The Self which in terms of the Sanatan Dharma is the trancendental Form of Sri Krishna.) That god however or whatever the yogi realizes, if he is realized as having form, is (in terms of the Sanatan Dharma) the supreme personality of Godhead or the Para-Purusha. (that transcendental form of god being knowable due to the consciousness of the fact of the existence of the Para-Purusha or Atman, but impossible of cognition. Having understood the above, the form of the realized God will take the form of and have that nature of the highest conception that the mind of a given being will be capable of cognizing, given his past education and experience. In short what he realizes as God will be the sum total of his understanding projected as an archetype of his own mind\consciousness. Of course the above paragraph would seem that the realization of the Para-Purusha cannot be complete realization as there is the referred to projection by\upon something else\The Self Para-Brahman etc.. This projection of i-ness all-be-it the supreme and final i-ness of very God, must be the requisite for the existence of all Jiva because there is still duality in the person of the Para-Purusha existing as the super-soul. The existence of the super-soul would then imply the existence of the Jeeva, which are mere reflections in The Conscious Absolute Self of the Para-Purusha in Himself. An example may be taken from mathematics, whereby the existence of The Number ONE implies others (i.e. Infinite Number) and hence the term "The Ten Thousand things" of the Buddhists or the countless forms of the Lord... the Ten thousand names of God etc. Yet to deal with another concept from mathematics---- Zero, we can say Zero is still one --- One What? Why One Zero of course --- which also implies many --- for example emptiness can only be known by comparison to fullness -- but nothing (actual nothing or zero is comparable to nothing. (nothing cannot be compared to anything) as it is not even zero. (i.e. it is not empty space as compared to fullness.) Yet the godhead referred to as Para-Purusha is superimposed upon nothingness as an representation or Icon of\for everything that exists .. even upto emptiness; but all those are bound by existence & with existence, Time also. Then if that supreme icon is bound by Time\existence the Jeeva must also remain bound as it is required (or rather the existence of the Jiva is required) such that the Para-Purusha, or Godhead be projected by implication or comparison onto the nothingness of the unbound Infinite Conscious Absolute Self. (The Transcendental lord). This simply means that any projection of i-ness, whether it is the projection of egoity by the jiva, or the subscription to the belief in any form of personal God (with Form) as the Final God of the Fully Realized Being is a delusion. it also means that the Self existing as any form of implied super-being, is merely that (An Implied Being) and as such is merely a conception of the unknowable God. With this conception then, the Jiva comes; i.e. the imposition of the Jiva or of the Super-being, brings the existence of the Jiva as a matter of course. This means that any conception not only of the existence of any object upto the whole cosmos.. but also of any God, no matter how stupendous, causes the fragmentation of the Absolute ConsciousNESS or Sakti (which appears in the Conscious Absolute) into diversity. Realization is thus impossible except either by utter negation or by total inclusion. Negation would be much harder than inclusion because negation of anything would by the very action of negation, cause a vacumm where once there existed the thingness of that which was negated. Although the vacumm would be referred to (and is actually the sakti in itself) it is but a fragmented glimpse. not unlike the space occupied by an object. (i.e.it is nothing more than a piece of conceptualized space or a fragmented view of the Para-Sakti revealed momentarily by the absence of the thingness of that which was negated. Just as emptiness is revealed by the the absence of fullness nor can emptiness be the truth. On the other hand Total Acceptance of the nonreality of existence conotes or eludes to the fact that negation implies one who negates. i.e. there must be one who believes he has this or that in order to negate or renounce it. On the other hand the recognition that nothing comes or goes (nothing arises or subsides) to require that it be negated, accepted, transcended, realized or known or not known by anyone who arose or did not arise is the end because it never was. Hence no mind arose, no thought arose, no being arose, no cosmos arose, no illusion, no maya arose, occurred either. because as an illusion does not exist - it is merely a trick of the light of consciousness in itself. If all this is The Self, it could not have arisen as all, but a tree seems to grow -- a man is born to die someday; however he does not grow and nor does the tree. What is at any given moment (what exists at any given moment) if Time could be frozen. must be and can only be the non-arisen Self; no matter where in Time it is located. An event that occurred once long ago is over, but the evidence of it having existed remains, for example we were all conceived in some way .. thus here we are... We all come from a seed. In the same way, all things come out of the space\seed, and continue to reside in it... since nothing can exist that exists except that it occurred in space. Hence the Cosmos is The bindu and also resides in itself.. Om Tat Sat When a person goes towards the outer reality ........... that person is turning towards the world and then Sri Hari makes him search in the world for HIM... until the jiva (soul) gets exhausted, dies or gives up searching and returns to thinking of Sri Hari (or what-ever name you want to call God) in his own heart and worshipping Him inside himself... Is that not what prayer is? Dide not Jessus say that kingdom of Heaven is within? Do not all Guru's send us inward? Death is a complete return inward of the energies that the Jiva or Soul pushed outward in order to seek for Hari in the world... When the search is at an end all beings return inward either by dying or by choosing to do puja for the indwelling Sri Hari in the heart.... ... Advaitins call him The Self, Saivites call him Siva, Vaisnaiva's call him sri Hari, the christians call him the holy spirit or christ, Islam calls him Alah! Needless to say HE is God. He is Known as Jahweh, Jehovah, Israel, Adonai and countless other names Many also call Him The I AM.... yet in english I Am means OM. TheBible is translated to say that God said: "I AM the alpha and the omega - (the begining and the end) rather it should say The I AM is The Alpha and the Omega (yet this is not correct english grammar but it is correct none-the-less)... thus all religions are made to seek Him outwardly until they have exhausted all means of finding Him within existence..... .............The heart may break at the point of exhaustion of this outward seeking........ thus making the seeker go inward suddenly ... thus a heart attack is something that builds up over time due to outward seeking.. So then the heart attack will open the heart to the inner-god or Hari .. or whatever name we may give God. If that man does not then begin to seek hari inside, if he does not Love the Self... he will soon die. All puja's, all bajans, all prayers, all hyms, all glory rises on the voice of all beings to The Self in All via sound, and thru the inner self it reaches Hari Himself. In this way It is Sri Hari who is worshipping Himself in all beings. Do not the scripture say that the whole of creation arises from Om? Do not the many religions have a similar story of God being the Word etc? So then we must seek Him in the heart, thru deep love, devotion and commitment to The Self who is called OM or I AM.... Sri Hari gives all beings desire the very moment that a being begins to look outward from hari.... because hari is now looking away from himself desire for him in the form of LOVE automatically arises....Hence when a being chases after desires... he gets more desire and cannot fulfill them as chasing them only makes them greater, because hari only wants himself. So then as Siva Sutra Says: "By NON-CONTEMPLATION OF ME (OF SIVA other-wise known as The Self or Sri Hari) YOU ARE BOUND" Bound to desire, bound to the wheel of karma, bound to be reborn. because the desire for sri hari (His OWN DESIRE for Himself) who dwells in every beings inner-most heart, has not been fulfilled.. Hence Sri Hari will create a new life so that the Jiva (Who is like an effigy or reflection of him) can be the means where-by He can Realize Himself .... Jai Sri Krishnaaa! So then dying or living a man will be subject to desire unless he seeks hari diligently, consistently and persistently. refusing to go after desire as desire means he has not found Hari yet... See above i mentioned that desire arises due to looking away from Hari... But why does it arise due to looking away? Well, Since Har is all there is.. he is reality itself........... ALL OF what is real, and all of what is not real ........... because one cannot know the real without comparision to the unreal and one cannot know the unreal without comparision to the real.... in that case consciousness is only possible because Hari is the ONLY ONE who pre-exists the comparisons else comparison could not be done. Hence he is incomparable and Non-Dual... because duality begins in comparison. (it begins IN KNOWLEDGE ITSELF).... Hence Love is Wisdom while knowledge is merely ignorance. with love and respect bindu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Bindu-ji Thank you for these sublime thoughts... In Sanskrit, there are two words that are often used in describing Love .... There is the small 'love' called 'Kama ' - the desire that exists between a man and woman - more in the nature of 'Lust' - carnal love it is called! but if such a small love matures into the 'Big Love' for the Creator and His Entire Creation , it is called 'Prema' - this is 'pure ' love , untainted ! In Tamizh (my mother tongue) it is said , 'AAsAI ARAPADU NAAL; MOHAM MUPPADU NAAL' - Kama (lust) lasts only for 60 days and Indatuation (moha) lasts for 30 days ... that is why it is so Limprtant that in a 'marriage' there should be a perfect Union - not just of two physical bodies but of two souls! Such unions last for ever! This is the eternal Cosmic union of siva-shakti! Again, in Tamizh there is another saying 'KAMMAM ERUKKUM EDATHIL RAMAN ELLAI; RAMAN ERUKKUM EDATHIL KAMMAM ELLAI' - WHERE THERE IS 'KAMA' THERE IS NO RAMA ; WHERE THERE IS RAMA , THERE IS NO KAMA ! ONLY PREMA- DIVINE LOVE ! ' YOU WRITE : Hence Love is Wisdom while knowledge is merely ignorance. i WOULD CHANGE THAT A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE BOLD TO SAY -' LOVE COMBINED WITH KNOWLEDGE IS WISDOM KNOWLEDGE DEVOID OF LOVE IS IGNORANCE MIRABHAI sings ecstatically thus: pâyo jî, maim to nâma ratna dhana pâyo bastu amolaka dî mere satguru, kirpâ kari apanâyo janma janma kî puñjî pâî, jaga mem sabai khovâyo kharcai nahim koî, cora na levai, dina dina baRhata savâyo sat kî nâva khevaTiyâ satguru, bhavasâgara tara âyo mîrâ ke prabhu giridhara nâgara, harkha harkha jasa gâyo I have found, yes, I have found the wealth of the Divine Name's gem. My true guru gave me a priceless thing. With his grace, I accepted it. I found the capital of my several births; I have lost the whole rest of the world. No one can spend it, no one can steal it. Day by day it increases one and a quarter times. On the boat of truth, the boatman was my true guru. I came across the ocean of existence. Mira's Lord is the Mountain-Holder, the suave lover, of whom I merrily, merrily sing. Hare Rama ! Hare Rama ! Rama Rama ! Hare Hare ! Hare Krishna ! Hare Krishna ! Krishna Krishna ! Hare Hare ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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