Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Namaste Sunderji: Your request compelled me to share the story of Andal. The story of Andal goes pretty similar to the story that you explained beautifully related to Namadev and Visoba. Andal was (considered) Goddess Earth — Bhoodevi — herself who appeared as a baby girl under a basil (tulsi) plant, in the garden of the Vatapatrasayi temple in Srivilliputtur, southwest of Madurai. She wasl in love with the temple God, Lord Ranganatha (Vishnu) and the love between the Lord and Andal was mutual (Ananya Bhakti). Everyday, her father (the temple priest) gathered flowers from the garden and prepared a garland for the temple God. Without her father knowing, Andal used to wear the garland before it was placed on the Idol of Lord Ranganatha. One day, her father saw her wearing the garland and he became furious and told Andal that garland lost its purity and unfit for putting on Lord Ranganatha. He went to the garden once again, prepared the garland fresh and took it the temple and put it on the idol. To his surprise, the fresh flower became suddenly dry and lost all the beauty and fragrance. Just, while he was wondering why it happened, he heard the voice from Lord Ranganatha asking him to get the flower that was worn before by His beloved bhakta, Andal! Immediately, the priest understood the mutual Ananya Bhakti expressed by the Lord Himself! The Lord only needed the Soodikoduththa Malar (the garland worn by Andal) and He is not looking for fresh flower without the expression of love. The Andal story is a very popular story in the southern part of India and Andal is very much similar to Meera, a great devotee who belong to the northern part of India. One of the great aspects of the path of bhakti (bhakti marg), it is very simple and numerous stories are available to illustrate mukti (liberation) through bhakti. Music is one of the best means of expressing bhakti and the stories of Tyagraja, Ramadas, Purandaradas, etc. illustrate the integration of music and bhakti. Also an ocean of literature on Bhakti is available in the great Epics of Ramayana and Mahabharata and in the Puranas. According to BhAgavata PurAna there are nine forms in which bhakti might be expressed: (this is one of my old article and this may be an appropriate time to repeat it.) Sravana (Listening to recitals of the names and glories of God): The tradition of Katha Kalachepam (Recitation of stories from Ramayana, Bhagavatam and other Puranic stories) and musical recitals are good examples. In the south, thousands of people gather to listen to Sengalipuram AnatarAma Dikshidar and other great story tellers. Thousands of people also attend Carnatic music recitals to listen to the Kirthanas (poems in musical form) composed by Saints Meera, Tyagaraja, Tulasidas, Purandaradas and others. Nama-sankirtana (Reciting the names of God as did Narada, Chaitanya, Meera, Tyagaraja, Ramdas, Purandaradas, etc.) Bhakti in this form infers that the Bhakta sings the glory of his Lord twenty four hours a day without stopping! Smarana (Recalling the glory of the Lord and His Deeds): The greatest example for this form of devotion is the story of PrahlAda. The empty mind of Hiranyakasipu (father of Prahlada) was filled with proud and ego. On the other hand, PrahlAda's mind was filled with the glory of Narayana. Hiranya asked Prahlada tenderly, "Son! Tell me what you have learnt at school." Prahlada replied, "I have learnt that the essence of Bhakti from all scriptures as - OM NAMO NARAYANAYA." Pada-sevana (Go along the footsteps of the Lord and follow him wherever. He goes): Lakshmana, the younger brother of Lord Rama is an excellent example to illustrate Pada-sevana. Rama's younger brother Bharathan was in fact a great devotee of Rama and he worshiped and treated the Sandals (Pathuka) of Rama equivalent to His Pada! Archana (Worshiping the Lord through Pujas): Temple visitations and conducting Pujas at home on regular basis fall into this form of worship. Vandana (Saluting the Lord through prayers): All forms of temple worship will fall into this classification of Bhakti. Dasya (Service with total dedication without ego): Hanuman is the greatest example for this form of Bhakti. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa gave a beautiful example to illustrate Hanuman's Bhakti toward Shri Ram. The Lord once asked Hanuman, "What is your attitude toward men? How do you look upon, think of and worship me?" Hanuman replied, " O Rama, I am conscious of my body when I feel that I am this visible body and then I have the conviction that thou art the Lord and I am thy servant. Thou art to be served and I am the one to serve. When I am conscious of my self as the individual self, one with the mind, the intellect and the soul, I have the conviction that thou art the whole and I am thy part. When again, I remain in samadhi, in the mood that I am the pure Self without all qualifying adjuncts, I have the conviction that I am also verily that which Thou art. Thou and I are one. There is no difference whatsoever." Sakhya (Befriending Him): Arjuna, Sugriva, Guka and Vibhishna, are good illustrations for this form of Bhakti. Atma-nivedana (Total dedication of oneself to Him). The story of Kannappa Nayanar illustrates this form of Bhakti. In all these form of bhakti, prema (love) is the essential component. The purest form of prema was shown by the great bhaktas, Meera, Andal, Tyagaraja, Chaitanya, Tukaram, and Jayadeva, the Nayanars and Alwars of south India and others. In fact whenever, we bow to God, we do namaskara. Na-mama-kara declares that "all that I am and have is due to Your Grace." During our temple worship through Archana, the term "Namah" is invariably used. The Taittiriya- Upanishad acclaims the virtue of using "Namah" while worshiping and says; "Desires fall at the feet of such a one who worships Him by saying Namah: tam nama ityupAsIta, namyante-asmai kAmAh. Among the nine forms of Bhakti described above, four have contemporary relevance; Sravana, Nama-sankritana, smarana, and archana. All these rest on the glory of Ishwara and His Glory. Our mind is always riddled and unsteady with desire and hate and lust and greed. Reciting the names of Ishwara in rhythmic pattern (Japa) will help us for turning the mind inward. We are at the elementary stage of spiritual evolution and repeating the name of Ishwara is a potent form of disciplining the unsteady mind from desire, hate, lust and greed. Faith is an integral part of Bhakti and the rule of thump for Bhaktas is to "Do What Rama did and Krishna Said!" advaitin, "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh> wrote: > If anyone has a similar story about a 'jnani', it would make > interesting reading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > > > > Yes! 'egoi' is the great obstacle in any path. Thanx for sharing > Saint Namadev's story ! Namaste, There is still an endearing conclusion to Namadeva's life! His 'samadhi' at Pandharpur Vithoba's Temple is the first step at the entrance. It was Namadeva's wish that every devotee of Vithoba entering the temple would step on him first so that the ego would never again appear!! Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Thank you sri Ram-ji for the devotional story of 'Aandaal' ... specially since next month is Marghazhi - i remember how as young girls we used to sing and dance to the tune of 'markazhi thingal mathi nirainda naanal ' and it is believed anyone who prays likAE Aandaal will get a handsome husband like Sri Ranganathar ! During my last pilgrimage to south india, i had the fortune of visiting the Ranganathaswamy temple temple at Srirangam, 6km north of Trichy! It was an awesome experience! It was a very crowded that day because of Ekadasi. WE however did get a darshan of the Lord! Ramji if you read my very first post on Bhakti and Jnana in this series i did mention the nine forms of devotional worship !(post 29136) sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam arcanam vandanam dasyam sakhyam atma-nivedanam from srimad bhagvat gita but it is wonderful to see you mentioning that again in a more detailed fashion. i do love these words in your post "Do What Rama did and Krishna Said!" In fact, is it not strange that Because of His faith , Lord Hanuman was able to cross the rivers and mountains just with 'Rama nama ' on his lips whereas Sri Rama himself had to construct a bridge to cross over to Lanka with the help of the Vanara sena ? i am glad you mentioned Thyagaraja - he was a great Rama bhakta and some of his compositions are full of bhakti for Sri Rama ... Muthuswami dikshitir composed many songs on AMBAAL - ON DIFFERENT DEITIES full of bhakti ! So did Shyama shastri! I AM SURE Bhaktas here know the story Of Sangam Poet NAKEERAR who found fault with lord Siva's poetic composition and when Lord siva opened his third eye to destroy Nkeerar to ashes, Nakeerar bravely stood his ground and said ' Netri KANN therandulam , kutram kutrame' ( EVEN IF YOU , LORD SHIVA, OPEN YOUR THIRD EYE, A MISTAKE IS A MISTAKE ) can you imagine confronting Lord shiva in this fashion ? Of COURSE , NAKEERAR WENT ON TO COMPOSE A GREAT COMPOSITION CALLED " "!ThirumurugAtRuppadai" THE SIX ABODES OF lORD MURUGA! the father( lord shiva) was ready to burn Nakeerar to ashes but the poet prayed to Lord shiva's son Skanda who saved the poet ! That is another story! RAM-JI, adi shankara has also mentioned 'KANNAPA' NAYANAR IN HIS SIVANANDA LAHARI in one of the verses and praised the hunter for his devotion to shiva ! Thank you once again regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 sorry! correction ! ( > Ramji if you read my very first post on Bhakti and Jnana in this > series i did mention the nine forms of devotional worship !(post > 29136) > > sravanam kirtanam visnoh > smaranam pada-sevanam > arcanam vandanam dasyam > sakhyam atma-nivedanam > > from srimad bhagvat gita ) the source is srimad bhagvatam not srimad bhagwat gita ! thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Namaste Sunderji. Yes. There is this story coming from Kerala. It relates to NArANathu BhrAnthan (literally translated as "the mad man of NArANath"). NB is acclaimed as a jnAni. I may be deficient in details and accuracy. The story goes thus approximately. There was a KrishNA temple under construction. I beleive it is the now famous Ambalapuzha Temple. The occasion was idol installation. Many famous priests of Kerala were present and each one tried their best to install the idol of the Lord as per prescrbed tAntrik rites. But, to their own and spectators' chagrin and dismay, the idol wouldn't sit firm. Awed by this inauspicious development, some very learned astrologers were consulted, who said that only one person could save the situation. The person named was none other than our NB. Our NB was in the habit of demonstrating his jnAna through strange methods. Just to drive home the futility of all our actions and desires, he would roll up big boulders the whole day on to the top of a hill and, at dusk, push them downhill, clap and dance in sheer abandon like our Greek Sysyphus. (This hill is a very reverred spot now and every year thousands climb it on the birth day of the saint.) Everyone, therefore, questioned the astrologers' choice of such a mad guy for this very auspicious ceremony. However, they knew that there was no way out and decided to summon the nutty guy. NB was brought to the temple site and was told about the problem. He proceeded straight to the spot where the idol was to be installed, dug the soil, spat there and fixed the idol to the spot. Lo, the idol was installed unshakably to the astonishment of the onlookers. And, we do have the story of PUnthAnam, the KrishNa bhakta who wrote the 'jnAna pAna' (song of jnAna) in simple Malayalam. It is believed that Krishna appeared before ShrI NArAyaNa Bhattathiri, the indomitable author of NArAyAnIyaM in impeccable Sanskrit and told him that He loved the bhakti of PUnthAnam more than the Sanskrit erudition of ShrI Bhattathiri. Members would kindly remember that Prof. KrishnamUrthyji had presented selected jwells from Shri Bhattathiri's 'NArAyaNIyaM' to this List. His jnAna is an acclaimed fact. Yet, Lord Krishna had his reservations! I would request knowledgeable Members to tell us if an English translation of "jnAnapAna" of Shri PUnthAnam is available on the net so that those interested can peruse it. Also, I would request our Vaidyanathanji to point out if I have made any mistakes in my narration. There is also the story of a jnAni (probably from Maharashtra) who used to offer his own spit to the Lord in worship. These may be stories. Yet they speak volumes about the traditional stress on one's attitude to the Lord. Lord, the ultimate refuge, is a close friend (sakhA) to the jnAni (BG). PraNAms. Madathil Nair _________________ advaitin, "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh> wrote: > > If anyone has a similar story about a 'jnani', it would make > interesting reading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Namaste all. I begin my morning prayers by reciting `prAtasmarAmi hridi samsphuratAtmatatwaM…" after praying to Lord GaNesha. I am not sure who wrote this prayer, which embodies the whole of traditional advaita. There is another prayer similar to this in meter authored by Sankara himself. It praises LalitA Parameshwari and is called "LalitA Pancaratna Stotra". It would be interesting to compare these two stotrAs in order to find out if there is any difference between bhakti and jnAna in the eyes of Sankara. While LalitA Pancaratna (LP) describes the impeccable beauty of SrI Lalita in the first three verses, the former prayer goes straight to Advaita – the Atmatattwam. Advaita actually begins in the third verse of LP, where Her Lotus Feet are described as `bhakteStadhyAnanirataM' (granting the desire of Her devotees who are engaged in intent meditation on Her Lotus Feet) and `bhavasindhupotam' (the boat that helps cross the ocean of creation). The Acharya of Advaita, therefore, has no doubt that Sri LalitA is the ultimate resort that can take a bhaktA through. The fourth verse of LP is pure advaita: "prAta stuve parashivAm lalitAM bhavanIM traiyantya vedya vibhavAm karuNanavadyAm vishwasya srishti-vilaya-stiti hetubhUtam visheshwarIm nigamavAngmanasAtidUrAm" [i praise the Ultimate Truth, LalitA, who is embodied in all that are born, who is recognized as the ultimate essence of the three (the three states!) yet omnipresent throughout, of faultless compassion, who is the creation, dissolution and preservation of this whole universe, the very reason for all that are created, the very Lordess of the Universe, yet very distant from derivation, words and mental faculties.] I must confess that my translation of the verse might be still far from the original intent of the Acharya. I can only try! All that is in Advaita is here in a compessed form for our contemplation! The more we dwell on the words, more and more insights pour in profusely affirming the advaitic vision. Whoever said bhakti has nothing to do with jnAna! These are the very words of our Acharya! We will do well to compare this with the following words of the morning prayer: turIyAm yat swapnajAgarasuhuptaMavaiti nityam: That eternal truth (turiYa) which pervades our three states of dream, waking and deep sleep manovacasAmagamyam: That which cannot be reached by mind and words! Yasminnidam jagadaSaMasheShabhUtam rajwam bujangama iva pratibhAsitam vai: Whom this entire world of creation shines after like the snake on a rope. vacovibhanti nikhilA yadanugraheNa : By whose Grace, all words shine. This is very much there in the last verse of LP where Mother is called VagdevatA! Yes, SrI LalitA is the jagadAMjananI (Mother of the Universe(s) – Anekakoti BrahmANda jananI – LalitA SahasranAma, Sarvaprapanca NirmAtrI – LalitA TrishatI), parA (the Ultimate that is the goal of Advaita) and tripureshi (the Lordess of the three states) (Ref: last verse of LP). Tell me now what is the difference between bhakti and jnAna. Those who advocate the two are two is under Her spell. May She show us the way. PraNAms on Her Lotus Feet. Madathil Nair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 AUM mahAgaNapataye namaH AUM shrI sha.karAchAryavaryAya namaH AUM shrImAtre namaH Nair-ji ! How blissful to see you bringing about a 'samanvaya' in adi shankara's bhakti compositions by also emphasizing the pure adwaithic elements in them! Bravo! On another note, i loved your commentary of Sri Lalita Pancaratnam by adi shankara . and i am delighted to see you bringing about a 'samanvaya' in adi shankara's works by relating to both 'bhakti and jnana ' aspects in his devotional works . You mentioned about a morning prayer ' that you recite ! Our adi shankara bhagvadapada has also coomposed a prayer called 'Prataha Smaranam' stotra consisting of three stanzas ! They are simply divine! Here they are : Prátaç smarámi çrdi samsphuradátmatattvam saccitsukham paramahamsagatim turèyam yatsvapna jágarasussuptamavaiti nityam tadbrahma niskalamaham na ca bhutasañghaç. At dawn I remember the Reality which is the Self, shining brilliantly in the heart, existence-consciousness-happiness, the goal of Paramahamsasannyasins (sages), the Fourth; That which knows always the states of dream, waking and deep-sleep, that Brahman which is partless I am, not the cluster of elements. Pratarbhajámi manasám vacasámagamyam vaco vibhánti nikhilá yadanugrahena yanneti neti vacanair nigamá avocam- stam devadevamajam acyutam áhur agryam. At dawn I sing the praise of That which is unattainable by mind and speech, but by the grace of which all words shine. That which the scriptures declares through the words `not this', `not this'- That God of gods, they say, is unborn and un-changing. Prátarnamami tamasaç paramarkavarïam pürnam sanátanapadam puruúottamakhyam yasminnidam jagadasesam asesamurtau rajjvam bhujamgama iuva pratibhasitam vai. At dawn I bow to that which is called the Highest Self which is beyond darkness, of the hue of the Sun the ancient goal which is the plenum - That, the residuless form (i.e. the whole) in which the entire universe is made manifest like a serpent in a rope. Slokatrayamidam punyam lokatrayavibhusanam pratahkale pathedyastu sa gacchetparamam padam. This meritorious triad of verses, the ornament of the three words - he who reads at the time of dawn goes to the supreme goals. This is the pahala-sruti (description of the fruit) of this Vedantic prayer. It is an eulogy of the prayer whose purpose is to consecrate the thoughts, words, and deeds of the individual so that the final goal may eventually be gained. (http://www.kamakoti.org/shlokas/kshlok.htm) and Nairji, if you read Saundarya lahari ,Acharya prays to AMBAAL THUS : "Place your feet on my head, the feet that are held by Mother Veda. " KANCHI PERIYAVAAL GIVES A BEAUTIFUL EXPLANATION FOR THIS : "The Upanisads (Vedanta) are also called "Veda-siras", "Sruti-siras", the "head" or "crown" of the Vedas - the Upanisads which are the "end" of the Vedas (Vedanta) are also their crown. To say that Amba's feet are placed on the head of Mother Veda means that they are held by the Upanisads. It is in the Kenopanisad that we see Amba appearing as Jnanambika (the goddess of jnana). "Samaganapriya" is one of her names in the Lalitasahasranama (The One Thousand Names of Lalita): this is in keeping with the fact that Amba's glory is specially revealed in an Upanisad belonging to the Samaveda. " AND SRI KRISHNA ALSO SAYS IN THE SRIMAD BHAGVAT GITS . "AMONG THE VEDAS. I AM SAMAVEDA' - Greatness of adi shankara is explained in this verse .... " Yenaadheetani saastraani bhagavat-sankaraahvayaat; Nissesha soori moordhaali maala leedhaanghripankajaat". It says that all the great seekers of truth (soori) in the country, without exception, acknowledged the greatness of Sri Sankara by bowing their heads at his lotus feet. Such a great soul felt humble after composing Soundarya Lahari and dedicated it to the Supreme Mother. In that way, he taught the world and us the lesson of humility and the need for eschewing from one's nature egoism or arrogance, realising that all merits are derived from the divine source. Ambaal is described as 'aruNaam' - The color of the Rising Sun ( udaya suriyan) How beautiful and lustrous the morning sun looks ! not blinding like the afternoon sun ! One of the names of Sri Lalita is udhyadbhAnu sahasrAbhA (Like a thousand rising suns) May we get more 'illuminating' posts from Shri Nair-ji so we can bask in the Sunshine of 'bhakti and jnana' ! A thousand salutations to the lotus feet of Guru and Goddess! advaitin, "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair> wrote: > > Namaste Sunderji. > > Yes. There is this story coming from Kerala. > > advaitin, "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair> wrote: > > Namaste all. > > I begin my morning prayers by reciting `prAtasmarAmi hridi > samsphuratAtmatatwaM…" after praying to Lord GaNesha. I am not sure > who wrote this prayer, which embodies the whole of traditional > advaita. There is another prayer similar to this in meter authored > by Sankara himself. It praises LalitA Parameshwari and is > called "LalitA Pancaratna Stotra". > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Adi MA! The prayer I mentioned and compared with 'LalitA Pancaratna' is the same 'PrAtah SmaraNaM' you quoted! I didn't know that it was penned by Sankara. Coming from the same pen, it only reconfirms our view that bhakti and jnAna are not different at all. Thanks. PraNAms. Madathil Nair ______________ advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > You mentioned about a morning prayer ' that you recite ! Our adi > shankara bhagvadapada has also coomposed a prayer called 'Prataha > Smaranam' stotra consisting of three stanzas ! They are simply > divine! > > Here they are : > > Prátaç smarámi çrdi samsphuradátmatattvam > saccitsukham paramahamsagatim turèyam > yatsvapna jágarasussuptamavaiti nityam > tadbrahma niskalamaham na ca bhutasañghaç. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 --- Madathil Rajendran Nair > SrI Lalita in the first three verses, the former > prayer goes straight to Advaita ? the >Atmatattwam. OM TAT SAT Dear Nair-ji and others, Can I ask a dumb question. Apparently Sri can be used with females also. Please explain what exactly Sri means. thanks, OM TAT SAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Hari OM! Dear All, Jnana Pana English Transliteration by Sri P.R. Ramachander. And also there are other works like Achutashtakam, Madurashtakam, Narayanasooktham, Purushasooktham etc.... http://www.ibiblio.org/sripedia/ebooks/ramachander/ With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad On 12/9/05, Madathil Rajendran Nair <madathilnair wrote: > > Namaste Sunderji. > > It is believed > that Krishna appeared before ShrI NArAyaNa Bhattathiri, the > indomitable author of NArAyAnIyaM in impeccable Sanskrit and told him > that He loved the bhakti of PUnthAnam more than the Sanskrit > erudition of ShrI Bhattathiri. Members would kindly remember that > Prof. KrishnamUrthyji had presented selected jwells from Shri > Bhattathiri's 'NArAyaNIyaM' to this List. His jnAna is an acclaimed > fact. Yet, Lord Krishna had his reservations! I would request > knowledgeable Members to tell us if an English translation > of "jnAnapAna" of Shri PUnthAnam is available on the net so that > those interested can peruse it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 advaitin, Brahmarpanam Brahmhavih <mahadevadvaita> wrote: > Dear Nair-ji and others, Can I ask a dumb question. Apparently Sri can be used > with females also. Please explain what exactly Sri means. > Namaste, These are some of the meanings in the dictionary http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/ zrI 3 f. (prob. to be connected with 1. %{zri} and also with 1. % {zrI} in the sense of `" diffusing light or radiance "' [1098,3] ; nom. %{zrI4s} accord. to some also %{zrI}) light , lustre , radiance , splendour , glory , beauty , grace , loveliness (% {zriye4} and %{zriyai4} , `" for splendour or beauty "' , `" beauteously "' , gloriously "' cf. %{zriya4se} ; du. %{zriyau} , `" beauty and prosperity "' ; %{zriya@AtmajAH} , `" sons of beauty "' i.e. horses [cf. %{zrI-putra}] ; prosperity , welfare , good fortune , success , auspiciousness , wealth , treasure , riches (%{zriyA} , `" accordñaccording to fortune or wealth "') , high rank , power , might , majesty , royal dignity (or `" Royal dignity "' personified ; %{zriyo@bhAjaH} , `" possessors of dignity "' , `" people of high rank "') AV. &c. &c. ; symbol or insignia of royalty Vikr. iv , 13 ; N. of Lakshmi1 (as goddess of prosperity or beauty and wife of Vishn2u , produced at the churning of the ocean , also as daughter of Bhr2igu and as mother of Darpa) S3Br. &c. &c. ; N. of Sarasvati1 (see %{-paJcamI}) ; of a daughter of king Su-s3arman Katha1s. ; of various metres Col. ; (the following only in L. `" a lotus-flower ; intellect , understanding ; speech ; N. of a Buddhist goddess and of the mother of the 17th Arhat "') ; m. N. of the fifth musical Ra1ga (see %{rAga}) Sam2gi1t. ; mfn. diffusing light or radiance , splendid , radiant , beautifying , adorning (ifc. ; see %{agni-} , %{adhvara-} , %{kSatra- } , %{gaNa-} , %{jana-zrI} &c.) RV. iv , 41 , 8. [The word %{zrI} is frequently used as an honorific prefix (= `" sacred "' , `" holy "') to the names of deities (e.g. S3ri-Durga1 , S3ri1-Ra1ma) , and may be repeated two , three , or even four times to express excessive veneration. (e.g. S3ri1-s3ri1-Durga1 &c.) ; it is also used as a respectful title (like `" Reverend "') to the names of eminent persons as well as of celebrated works and sacred objects (e. g. S3ri1-Jayadeva. S3ri1Bha1gavata) , and is often placed at the beginning or back of letters , manuscripts , important documents &c. ; also before the words %{caraNa} and %{pAda} `" feet "' , and even the end of personal names.] Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Srih! Thank you sunderji . May i add some more ? SrImAn - ONE OF THE NAMES OF SRI Vishnu a) One who is endowed with wealth. b) One who is full of all glories. c) One who is radiant.(sri kantha) d) The Lord of MahAlakshmi(sripathi) e) One who has MahAlakshmi in his vaksha-sthala. (SRINIVASA) f) One who is endowed with all the powers. For instance, you never ever say 'vaishnavism' - you always say 'sri vaishnavism' - this is out of respect for everything in the sri vaishnavism tradition is because of 'sri' - the goddess of WEALTH( BOTH MATERIAL AND SPIRITUAL WEALTH) ! SHE IS sRIDEVI AND HER 'SUKTHAM' IS CALLED AS SRI SUKTHAM ! The great wisom is called 'sri vidya' for it is considered the most auspicious wisdom . Dev's yantra is therefore sri yantra , devi's chakra is sri Chakra - for they ARE ALL AUSPICIOUS. IF YOU HAVE 'SRI' IN YOUR HEART, YOU have everything ! For all worldly wealth is transcient , Goddess alone is permanent - our beloved Nitya sri ! When you refer to great scriptural texts , you say Srimad Bhagwat Gita , Srimad bhagwatam .... ETC ... WHEN YOU REFER TO A MARRIED LADY, YOU SAY SRIMATHI! when i refer to a gentleman , i say 'shri' and to a lady , i say 'sree ' ... 'SRI' IS A VERY POTENT WORD - FULL OF DIVINITY ! OM SRI MATRE NAMAHA! > > These are some of the meanings in the dictionary > > http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/ > > zrI 3 f. (prob. to be connected with 1. %{zri} and also with 1. % > {zrI} in the sense of `" diffusing light or radiance "' [1098,3] ; > > nom. %{zrI4s} accord. to some also %{zrI}) light , lustre , > radiance , splendour , glory , beauty , grace , loveliness (% > {zriye4} and %{zriyai4} , `" for splendour or beauty "' , `" > beauteously "' , gloriously "' cf. %{zriya4se} ; du. %{zriyau} , `" > beauty and prosperity "' ; %{zriya@AtmajAH} , `" sons of beauty "' > i.e. horses [cf. %{zrI-putra}] ; > > prosperity , welfare , good fortune , success , auspiciousness , > wealth , treasure , riches (%{zriyA} , `" accordñaccording to > fortune or wealth "') , high rank , power , might , majesty , royal > dignity (or `" Royal dignity "' personified ; > > %{zriyo@bhAjaH} , `" possessors of dignity "' , `" people of high > rank "') AV. &c. &c. ; symbol or insignia of royalty Vikr. iv , 13 ; > > N. of Lakshmi1 (as goddess of prosperity or beauty and wife of > Vishn2u , produced at the churning of the ocean , also as daughter > of Bhr2igu and as mother of Darpa) S3Br. &c. &c. ; > > N. of Sarasvati1 (see %{-paJcamI}) ; > > of a daughter of king Su-s3arman Katha1s. ; > > of various metres Col. ; > > (the following only in L. `" a lotus-flower ; intellect , > understanding ; speech ; > N. of a Buddhist goddess and of the mother of the 17th Arhat "') ; > > m. N. of the fifth musical Ra1ga (see %{rAga}) Sam2gi1t. ; > > mfn. diffusing light or radiance , splendid , radiant , > beautifying , adorning (ifc. ; see %{agni-} , %{adhvara-} , % {kSatra- > } , %{gaNa-} , %{jana-zrI} &c.) RV. iv , 41 , 8. [The word %{zrI} is > frequently used as an honorific prefix (= `" sacred "' , `" holy "') > to the names of deities (e.g. S3ri-Durga1 , S3ri1-Ra1ma) , and may > be repeated two , three , or even four times to express excessive > veneration. (e.g. S3ri1-s3ri1-Durga1 &c.) ; > > it is also used as a respectful title (like `" Reverend "') to the > names of eminent persons as well as of celebrated works and sacred > objects (e. g. S3ri1-Jayadeva. S3ri1Bha1gavata) , and is often > placed at the beginning or back of letters , manuscripts , important > documents &c. ; > > also before the words %{caraNa} and %{pAda} `" feet "' , and even > the end of personal names.] > > > Regards, > > Sunder > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Namaste. Shri Sunderji has answered the grammar part of your question. Here is the common-sense explanation from my part: 1. ShrI is used in the caption of the namAvalIs, e.g. ShrI LalitA SahasranAma, ShrI Lalita TrishatI etc. We also chant "Om ShrI LalitA MahAtripurasundryai Namah". 2. SrI LakshmI - the devatA invoked in SrI SUktaM is feminine. (Dr. Yaduji - this is your area to comment upon.). 3. While addressing people, we normally use ShrI for men and ShrImati (Abbr. Smt.) for women. The male ShrI is actually a short version of ShrIman. Sunderji, your thoughts are invited. This is my understanding. PraNAms. Madathil Nair _________________ advaitin, Brahmarpanam Brahmhavih <mahadevadvaita> wrote: >... Can I ask a dumb question. Apparently Sri can be used > with females also. Please explain what exactly Sri means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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