Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Dear Yadu-ji! These are beautiful words right after my heart ! Such words are 'music' to the ears and feast for the eyes ! SRI RAMAKRISHNA SAID THIS OF SRIMAD BHAGVATAM "It is fried in the Ghee of knowledge and steeped in the honey of Love." This is also true of Srimad Bhagwat GITA ! so, yaduji- i need youer help in 'ehancing' my simplistic posts - this is your hour to 'shine' because you have so much to share ! Please join me in exploring the path of 'bhakti and jnana' what more can this 'abala' ask ! thank you ! love and regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Hari Om. ------------------- advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > what more can this 'abala' ask ! ------------------- Dear AdiMa ji, Namaskar. I have something that I want to share with you in this regard. Something that I learnt (still working at it actually..)from my experience. I realised that my identification as a 'woman' gets fattened by repeated brooding on the thought that 'I am a woman'. This brooding happens by reacting to anything as a 'woman'. The moment somebody says something about 'woman' I identify and react. Any chance I get I remind myself of my 'womanhood' either feel proud about it or feel sorry for myself. I realised this to be a serious impediment on the spiritual path where we seek to see 'vision of oneness'. (As a matter of fact, as I type this I have awareness inside that even this act of 'reacting to your email' is due to this identification with 'womanhood'.)Let me tell you that I didn't come to this realisation by myself. I got some help by God's grace. One day I was attending a lecture from a very well known Swamiji of Chinmaya Mission. I was sitting in the very first row, right in front of Swamiji. While explaining something Swamiji suddently pointed at me and asked me "Tell me, are you a 'wife' first or a 'woman' first?" I said "I am a woman first." He then asked "Are you a 'woman' first or a 'human' first?" I said "I am a human first." He then asked "Are you a 'human being' first or a 'living being' first?" I said "I am a living being." Then suddenly he pointed at all the audience and said loudly to me "SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE HERE !" This statement came like a shock to me. Really everybody is living- being only and I am also a living-being. One with them. I felt such oneness and peace at that moment. After this I have awareness of this problem with me and working at it, so thought I will share it with you. Adimaji, you are very learned and I am not. So please forgive and ignore my words if you find them to be immature. Love and Respect, Padma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Hari OM! Dear Padmaji, I agree 100 % with you, as a living being but in vyvahar we cannot do the same. it will be a chaos, if we follow that, Woman is Woman, Man is Man.... yes for all spiritual purposes living being is ok. Woman is all compassionate, Man is Rational, but there is a Man in Woman's nature or(Body) also and vice versa, some times there will be woman with big mustache also,........ all depends on the nature of that living being! But no one can replace Woman's Motherly love, no one in the world can replace it, that is patented to Women folks. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad On 12/6/05, pjoshi99 <pjoshi99 wrote: > > Hari Om. > > Then suddenly he pointed at all the audience and said loudly to > me "SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE HERE !" > > This statement came like a shock to me. Really everybody is living- > being only and I am also a living-being. One with them. I felt such > oneness and peace at that moment. After this I have awareness of > this problem with me and working at it, so thought I will share it > with you. > > Adimaji, you are very learned and I am not. So please forgive and > ignore my words if you find them to be immature. > > Love and Respect, > Padma > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of > Atman and Brahman. > Advaitin List Archives available at: > http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/<http://www.escribe.com/culture/advaitin\ /> > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > - Visit your group "advaitin<advaitin>" > on the web. > > - > advaitin<advaitin?subjec\ t=Un> > > - Terms of > Service <>. > > > ------------------------------ > -- Krishna Prasad .. Yad yad aacarati sreshtah, tad tad eva itaro janah. As the Gita puts it, consistency of purpose and a spirit of dedication and, if necessary, sacrifice, should characterize the new spirit. We Must - Swami Chinmayanada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Thank you Padma-ji for sharing this ! When i called myself an 'abala' , i was not referring to my woomanhood ! Bala ofcourse means 'a girl' but abala means one who is not 'strong'- incidentally, i was not referring to 'sharrira-balam '( my physical strength) or my mano -balam ( my mental strength) but my Buddhir-balam (intellectual strength) ... i wanted to involve sri yadu-ji to share in the discussion on 'bhakti and jnana' - this is a 'golden' opportunity for Yaduji to remove the golden disc off the face of 'bhakti and jnana' and share his interpretations of the upanishads! but you have made some good points ... and i admire your wisdom, padmaji ! Believe me , i am a tough woman - you just don't me! Smile ! i like to share this Tantric prayer with you - it has helped to be strong in the face of all adversities ! "Woman is the foundation of the world; The universe is her form. Woman is the foundation of the world; She is the true form of the body. Whatever form she takes, Whether the form of a man or a woman, Is the superior form. In woman is the form of all things, Of all that lives and moves in the world. There is no jewel rarer than a woman, No condition superior to that of a woman. There is not, nor has been, nor will be Any destiny to equal that of a woman. There is no kingdom, no wealth, To be compared with a woman. There is no prayer to equal a woman. There is not, nor has been, nor will be Any yoga to compare with a woman, No mystical formula nor asceticism To match a woman. There are not, nor have been, nor will be Any riches more valuable than woman." My gurudeva used to address me as 'Tantraswarupini' in all his correspondence to me! love and light advaitin, "pjoshi99" <pjoshi99> wrote: > > Hari Om. > > ------------------- > advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" > <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > > > what more can this 'abala' ask ! > ------------------- > Dear AdiMa ji, > Namaskar. > > I have something that I want to share with you in this regard. > Something that I learnt (still working at it actually..)from my > experience. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Dear Shri. Krishna Prasad ji Hari Om. Namaskar. What you say is very true from Vyavahar standpoint. I would have thought the same. However to my surprise, when I started applying it, I did not see any chaos. I found out that vyavahar goes on just fine without our thinking that 'I am this and that'. Because what we are we are! No thinking is necessary for that. Our thoughts that 'I am this and that' actually obstruct our natural actions. They stop us to be a better woman and a better man. I haven't read very many books. I only have my experiment to give in support of what I say. I am aware that it won't be sufficient. So only thing I can say is, if you so wish, you may 'Try it out and see if it works. Otherwise leave it.' I appreciate that you read my mail and responded. I really do not wish to discuss this matter any further because I am not interested in proving myself right. What good would that do to me? Probably it will just add to my ego further and that's no good ! Even for others reading arguments doesn't help any. Love and Respect Padma advaitin, Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99@g...> wrote: > I agree 100 % with you, as a living being but in vyvahar we cannot do the > same. it will be a chaos, if we follow that, Woman is Woman, Man is Man.... > yes for all spiritual purposes living being is ok. > there is a Man in Woman's > nature or(Body) also and vice versa, some times there will be woman with big > mustache also,........ all depends on the nature of that living being! Butreplace > it, that is patented to Women folks. > no one can replace Woman's Motherly love, no one in the world can > > With Love & OM! > > Krishna Prasad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 wrote: But no one can replace Woman's Motherly love, no one in the world can replace it, that is patented to Women folks. How untrue! Love is love. There is no motherly or fatherly. A father has same quality of love as a mother has. (If you see from Vyavaharik POV, today's Man is more loving towards his kids than the woman.) Mahabharat, our history, gives us many examples of human nature. I would like to mention two of them with our context of so called "Motherly Love" Kunti - a great woman - but also a great failure of motherhood! Dronacharya - a father whose love towards Ashwatthama, made him fight against Drupad and that in-turn caused his death. So love is not proprietary of any group. Anyone can experience pure love. So what Tai (Padmaja-ji) said was right. We first are Living being - even from Vyavaharik POV. Madhav India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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