Shankara's ideas about occlusion

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Hello all.

 

I'm hoping I can ask a favor of some of you. I'm

writing something about occlusion, those ideas which

appear to inhibit jnana. I've come to the conclusion

that what people believe about jnana as an experience

can actually prevent self-realization from occurring.

 

What do you think Shankara would say to a statement

like that?

 

Thanks in advance for all your help.

 

--jody.

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jodyrrr <jodyrrr wrote: Hello all.

 

I've come to the conclusion

that what people believe about jnana as an experience

can actually prevent self-realization from occurring.

 

What do you think Shankara would say to a statement

like that?

 

From

Sankarraman

 

Well, Sir, Jnana, according to Sankara and Ramana, is not an object of

experience involving a relative knower as against the known as is the case in

all phenomenal objects, but is one of pure Awareness. All acquisiton,

attainment, involving an agent, fruit of experience, is traceable only to the

realm of ignorance. This is the persistent refrain of Sankara. According to

Sankara and Ramana, even meditation is only an objectified phenomenon, being

relevant only to remove the vasanas. Even as regards the understanding of the

Mahavakyas, there is an idea that in the immediate action of listening there is

an apperception of the Self, not admitting of the repetitive act of cogitation

by the mind.

 

yours ever in Bhaghavan

Sankarraman

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

advaitin, Ganesan Sankarraman <shnkaran>

wrote:

>

>

>

> jodyrrr <jodyrrr> wrote: Hello all.

>

> I've come to the conclusion

> that what people believe about jnana as an experience

> can actually prevent self-realization from occurring.

>

> What do you think Shankara would say to a statement

> like that?

>

> From

> Sankarraman

>

> Well, Sir, Jnana, according to Sankara and Ramana, is not

an object of experience involving a relative knower as against the

known as is the case in all phenomenal objects, but is one of pure

Awareness. All acquisiton, attainment, involving an agent, fruit of

experience, is traceable only to the realm of ignorance. This is the

persistent refrain of Sankara. According to Sankara and Ramana, even

meditation is only an objectified phenomenon, being relevant only to

remove the vasanas. Even as regards the understanding of the

Mahavakyas, there is an idea that in the immediate action of listening

there is an apperception of the Self, not admitting of the repetitive

act of cogitation by the mind.

>

> yours ever in Bhaghavan

> Sankarraman

 

Hello Sankarraman.

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

--jody.