Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 SPRIRITUALITY AND MANAGEMENT ACHARYA SHRI KISHORE VYASJI as interviewed by pradeep nambiar for sanskar tv What is the purpose of life? The Youth usually don’t ask these questions but when they ask it means they are on the path of realization. Such a person will have to ask himself 3 questions A] Who am I? Am I the body or is the body distinct from the self? B] How can I unite myself with the all pervading supreme energy that moves the world? As this will make him stress free as he then knows, that he is not totally responsible for things happening in his life. C] How can he devote some time to service of mankind? As service of mankind is an extension of the work of the lord. B] How do we know our swadharma , our unique talent ? Earlier when there was Varnashram, knowing your swadharma was easy as you had to follow the service carried on by your forefathers. Now the way to know your swadharma is to ask yourself this question. What am I born for? You have to know your intrinsic tendency and take an employment suitable for that. The other way is to know your duty and get committed and do it with your total devotion. {Putra dharma, matru dharma, praja dharma, pitru dharma and raj dharma}.do your duty wherever you belong. C] What are failures in life? In life, there are no failures. Every setback is a step towards success. Setbacks are reason to ponder. The important thing to understand is that you have to have tremendous self confidence. The Pandavas had their setbacks. Shri Ram lost Sita for a whole year. But that was to fulfill a greater duty destiny had for them. Failures are not permanent, be a master of your own field. D] What is success in life? In Indian philosophy there is no place for luck, prarabdh and daiva . There is only Purusharth . Only your effort and hard work can get you results. But then you have to be focused in life. You have to keep yourself healthy both physically and mentally, keep your mind open to opportunities and move ahead in life. E] Is our life destiny driven are there any limits? There are no limits, you have to have confidence and have a direction and not give up. In the Mahabharata there is a beautiful saying “have a target, work towards it, you will achieve it provided you will not stop pursuing it.” Do everything with enthusiasm. Never fall short in giving your best. God wants to help, everything happens because he wants it to happen Do your duty, there should never be a sacrifice of your duty Set your character, there should never be a sacrifice of values Then nothing is impossible. Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Sri PRADEEP NAMBIAR wrote: > SPRIRITUALITY AND MANAGEMENT > ACHARYA SHRI KISHORE VYASJI There is a danger in mixing spirituality with management since the end result may not be true to either. While the article is a good motivational reading, it does not always give the correct picture. For exapmle: > D] What is success in life? > In Indian philosophy there is no place for luck, prarabdh and daiva . > There is only Purusharth... While I do not deny that someone looking for success in management may indeed benefit from this idea, it is not a correct representation of Indian philosophy. Someone looking for success in management would benefit better by going directly to management rather than through spirituality. praNAm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 dear sanjay, while I agree with you that the aim of both spirituality and management are different but it has been seen that the best managers are those who have an element of spirituality in them. the best managers in the world that I interviewed have fused the aim with a tinge of spirituality which helps them perform better. And this Iam trying to portray to the younger generation so that they get attracted towards spirituality . As trying to realise God is the eternal and only success in Life. pradeep nambiar 9321027318 Sanjay Srivastava <sksrivastava68 wrote: Sri PRADEEP NAMBIAR wrote: > SPRIRITUALITY AND MANAGEMENT > ACHARYA SHRI KISHORE VYASJI There is a danger in mixing spirituality with management since the end result may not be true to either. While the article is a good motivational reading, it does not always give the correct picture. For exapmle: > D] What is success in life? > In Indian philosophy there is no place for luck, prarabdh and daiva . > There is only Purusharth... While I do not deny that someone looking for success in management may indeed benefit from this idea, it is not a correct representation of Indian philosophy. Someone looking for success in management would benefit better by going directly to management rather than through spirituality. praNAm Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages Religion and spirituality Advaita Bhagavad gita Visit your group "advaitin" on the web. advaitin Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Namaste; I am of the opinion that a manager who has understanding of the spiritual aspects of life can perform better than a manager with only a materialistic attitude. In our daily life, we do perform our duties as manager - home management, managing our kids, managing time, managing our work, etc. The manager of a company also has similar duties and those with spiritual outlook understand and cope up with the situation. A spiritual manager operates unselfishly for the welfare of all employees and consequently he/she is a better manager than a selfish one! The lessons that Lord Krishna provides to Arjuna is make him a better manager of the war. Rama (manager of the kingdom and dealing with all situations), Bhisma, Vidhura, and others from the great epics are great role-model examples of managers with spiritual outlook. I do believe that Bhagavad Gita could be one of the best management hand-book for manager of a household, a company, and a country. There is absolutely no conflict between management and spirituality - on the contrary they will be complementary skills! regards, Ram Chandran advaitin, PRADEEP NAMBIAR <pradeepwrit> wrote: > > dear sanjay, > while I agree with you that the aim of both spirituality and management are different but it has been seen that the best managers are those who have an element of spirituality in them. the best managers in the world that I interviewed have fused the aim with a tinge of spirituality which helps them perform better. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Si Ram Chandran wrote: > I am of the opinion that a manager who has understanding of the > spiritual aspects of life can perform better than a manager with only a > materialistic attitude. I agree to your observations. However I do not think that we need to twist the spiritual teachings to make them palatable to managers. The original post says that "prArabdha or daiva" does not have any place in Indian spirituality. I find it far-fetched to claim. praNAm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Namste Ram Chandran-Ji: Well said, there is absolutely no conflict as long as we interpret it in the proper perspective and recognizing your own "svadharma". Where the "puruSha" is the spirituality and "prakR^iti" is the outcome of it and the success is directly dependent upon the reorganization of that "puruShaa" the "common denominator". Warm regards, Dr. Yadu advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <ramvchandran> wrote: > > > > I do believe that Bhagavad Gita could be one of the best management > hand-book for manager of a household, a company, and a country. There > is absolutely no conflict between management and spirituality - on the > contrary they will be complementary skills! > > regards, > > Ram Chandran > > advaitin, PRADEEP NAMBIAR <pradeepwrit> > wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Namaste Sri Sanjay; I honestly believe that anyone sincerely promoting spirituality in management will not twist the spiritual teaching to make them palatable to managers. An ideal manager will likely be a Satvik (equanimity in assessing others) with the only goal of welfare of all. It is impossible to find a successful manager who is not spiritual in his approach. This is widely recognized fact and many management institutions in India do include some 'spiritual flavors' in their management courses. Also some of the spiritual missions such as Chinmaya Mission in India have instituted Management education as one of the activities. Here are some details and more details are available in the sources provided at the end. Chinmaya Institute of Management The Chinmaya Institute of Management is a vehicle to implement the Chinmaya Institute of Higher Learning's objective, which is to translate and impart basic, time-invariant values into the professional and personal lives of men and women. In today's world, professionals are equipped with all the skills and techniques to perform specific tasks, but they are not sensitised to the underlying mutual reliance between spirituality and one's actions. Only individuals with true strength of character, conviction and those who are able to reach other's minds and hearts can truly make a difference. The fabric of Vedanta, of values and ethics, of responsibility and attitude will be woven through each activity and instruction offered by the Institute. Chinmaya Management Review Chinmaya Management Review publishes refereed articles, case studies, interviews and book reviews related to the incorporation of ethics, values and spirituality in management. The Review seeks to be a forum for creative, original work that: explores the relationship between spirituality, values and management develops and integrates personal and professional values develops theories and practices of values and ethics in management propounds a holistic approach to the individual and the workplace examines management in the context of Vedantic principles and the Indian ethos The Review maintains a broad focus and seeks to publish the best available scholarship on all aspects of ethics, values and management. It has a global readership of professionals, academicians and philosophers. It is published bi-annually by the Chinmaya Institute of Management, a division of Chinmaya Institute of Higher Learning. More information can be accessed from the following sites regarding management and spirituality: http://www.chinmayamission.org/html/institute_of_management.php3 http://www.chinmayamission.org/html/chinmaya_management_review.php3 There are many other sites with interesting connection between spirituality and management. The statements regarding 'prArabdha or daiva' are vague without further explanations and consequently I do not see their relevance. regards, Ram Chandran advaitin, Sanjay Srivastava <sksrivastava68@g...> wrote: > > I agree to your observations. However I do not think that we need to > twist the spiritual teachings to make them palatable to managers. The > original post says that "prArabdha or daiva" does not have any place > in Indian spirituality. I find it far-fetched to claim. > > praNAm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Hello Ram-ji, Beautiful thoughts on the Gita and management. I heartily agree! Regards, --Greg ________________________________ advaitin on behalf of Ram Chandran Wed 12/14/2005 6:18 AM advaitin Re: spirituality and management Namaste; I am of the opinion that a manager who has understanding of the spiritual aspects of life can perform better than a manager with only a materialistic attitude. In our daily life, we do perform our duties as manager - home management, managing our kids, managing time, managing our work, etc. The manager of a company also has similar duties and those with spiritual outlook understand and cope up with the situation. A spiritual manager operates unselfishly for the welfare of all employees and consequently he/she is a better manager than a selfish one! The lessons that Lord Krishna provides to Arjuna is make him a better manager of the war. Rama (manager of the kingdom and dealing with all situations), Bhisma, Vidhura, and others from the great epics are great role-model examples of managers with spiritual outlook. I do believe that Bhagavad Gita could be one of the best management hand-book for manager of a household, a company, and a country. There is absolutely no conflict between management and spirituality - on the contrary they will be complementary skills! regards, Ram Chandran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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