Adhyasa-Adhyropa discussion (and a bit of madness)

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Namaste Sri Purushartha-ji,

 

Ref your post 29727

 

advaitin, "Purusha" <purush_artha> wrote:

 

> CRN, between you and Rishi, sometimes it is hard to

> understand if we are discussing the Vritti Jnana of

> Trika Saivism or Shankara's Advaita Vedaanta.

 

I would say that we are discussing Advaita Vedanta and whatever else

that is in tune with it.

 

> How can one ignore the 36 cosmic principles while

> discussing this great topic. Hence that 'authoritative'

> sounding question but in reality was only a 'leading'

> question.

 

I am thankful for the leading question because the topic that it

leads to is dear to my heart. I agree that one cannot ignore the 36

cosmic principles when discussing this Great Topic. Why does Vedanta

ignore it? I don't know for sure, but I feel that Advaita Vedanta

does not list the kancukas or the shuddha-tattvas that exist between

shuddha-vidya-tattva and Paramashiva for one reason only – because of

the extreme vairagya that is specified by Sri Shankarachrya for the

sadhaka to pursue the goal of Advaita Vedanta. To me, it appears that

the absence of mention of the kancukas and the 'collapse' of the

sadhaka into Paramashiva after attaining the state of shuddha-vidya-

tattva means only one thing – that the sadhaka is expected to have

overcome the root anava-mala and be full of Shakti already. But it

may be too premature for me to elaborate further on this topic.

 

> Rishi mentioned about Kshemaraja. You mention about 'Spanda'.

> Therefore, When one reads the two posts in the sequence,

> one gets into the realm of Kshemaraja's Spanda Karika.

 

Purushartha-ji, I think you know very well that without Spanda, there

is neither Advaita Vedanta nor Advaita Tantra. Also, what you know

seems to be Inscrutable!

 

> Whether Gaudapada Karika or Spanda Karika, it is all about

> 'spiritual' transcedence. Is it not, CRN?

 

True.

 

> The discussion is very illuminating and all the participants

> are 'real' as you mentioned earlier. But the ones who are

> not participating are also 'real' for in their silence lies

> the eternal wisdom.

 

I agree. Who is the samsari and who is the jnani? Shiva is a great

actor!

 

> I will say this with authority though as long as we

> know what is our 'Real' self as distinguished from our

> Empirical' self, we have recognized the 'spanda' priciple.

 

I was going to cut this part out of my reply when I suddenly realised

that it is a PROFOUND STATEMENT! Why do I get these hints of

recognition with you? What Madness is this that is around me, over

me, through me!

 

> Athato ..... play the flute and let us drown in the melody

> of Divine music of Shabda Brahman.

 

Om Namah Shivaya

 

 

Pranams,

Chittaranjan