Let Saraswati flow on

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Namaste Saraswatiji,

Though rupa changes Mother is ever the same! In attempting

to invade my own country I trip over a snake/rope. What

sort of analogy is that? I make it an inductive-deductive

analogy. When properties are similar we assume the

same cause or a similar nature behind it. For example

electricity and lightning have similar properties, they look

like each other and if we fly a kite with a key attached

in a thunder storm we may get a similar shock.

 

The respect in which perception is said to like

confusion is the transfer of the properties of one

thing on to another. This is the characteristic

that they share. We suppose that there is a

fundamental nature that they both share that

makes this possible. This we take to be

consciousness and it leads us to consider

that in some mysterious way both the

object outside the mind and the object

within the mind are the same or something

like that. It is out of such rough lumber

that the gallows is constructed to hang

reason. There's the rope!

 

Best Wishes,

Michael.

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ref post 30085

 

Michael-ji ! Namaste :

 

you state :

 

( Though rupa changes Mother is ever the same! )

 

This brought a smile to my face. You do have a wonderful sense of

humor .

 

True ! Very True! Even the forms and names may change - SHE may be

full of 'shakti ( energy ) one time and at other times she may

sparkle with wisdom but THE great MOTHER'S 'Consciouness' is always

the same ! She is the 'fire pit of consciousness ; - chidagnikunda!

Even the Saraswati river may run'dry' sometimes but the Ganga is

forever flowing .... eternal and never changes its course! that is

how 'Consciousness' is! So. let me assure you, michael-ji, there is

no dulaistic enigma here ! only in our perception of names and

forms! :-)

 

Thank you so much for bringing into focus the 'inductive and

deductive' aspects of analogy . I had forgotton all about that - my

Philosophy professor in my undergrad days used to talk about that all

the time . That was so long ago.

 

It is amusing you should say ' to invade my country' while tripping

over a snake/ rope! Yes- the rope may be the same all over the Globe

but the snake takes many forms , sizes and shapes - from Rattlesnakes

to Boa Constrictors-

 

AS FAR AS 'SNAKE IS CONCERNED - it is just a 'symbol' it can

reprsent 'evil' or something 'divine' ... as a Kundalini shakti (

devatma shakti) , She is 'knowledge' and 'wisdom ' that yogi's love

to Befriend. Sri Ramakrishna used to say 'the poison in the snake '

does not affect the snake - how come it poisons the man/woman the

snake bites ? That is the power of 'maya' -to a jnani, Maya is not

something to be afraid of because he/she is not in dehatma buddhi.

 

Analogies have their uses upto a point just like metaphors and

similies . but we need top go beyond the analogies and look at the

whole picture! That is where the help of a 'sadguru' is needed.

 

In closing , I like to leave you with this favorite quote of mine

 

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe said: "The highest problem of every

art is, by means of appearances, to produce the illusion of a loftier

reality." and as we have seen in this forum 'Language is such an art'

 

ps - btw, i will not be particpating in these discussions any more as

it is time for me to rest my eyes as i am scheduled for surgery in a

week!

 

I thank the moderators for their hospitality and courtesy and giving

me an opportunity to voice my opinions . I pray to the Goddess that

let this group grow by leaps and bounds and reach the magic figure of

2000 by the end of the year . There is strenth in numbers at all

evels . Let the one become many ! ( any pun intended is

unintentional) :-)

 

warmest regards