Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 Dear Michael and Shri Sankarraman and others, Michael wrote (post 30163, Feb 7): "... the word 'philosophia' which my Greek dictionary translates as love of knowledge and wisdom.... There seems to me to be in that not the evidence of an early departure from the inquiry aspect of wisdom for the trumpery of system building but the actual equation in the Greek mind of the two. Really it is quite obvious that the opposition which you suggest did not exist for them at all. To know something truly is to discern in the manifold instances the unifying principle and law. Wisdom and the empirical were not separate from each other ... However the Greeks also had their Eleusinian mysteries in which the initiates (mystai) participated in some rite about which little is known. In this experience the aporia of the students of the academy and their masters were perhaps dissolved in an experience that surpassed dialectic." I agree wholeheartedly with Michael about translating the Greek 'philosophia' as "love of knowledge and wisdom". And I would say that the same meaning is carried by the English word 'philosophy'. I also agree that "To know something truly is to discern in the manifold instances the unifying principle ..." Indeed, this is why the English 'philosophy' may be translated by the Sanskrit 'tattva-shastra'. 'Tattva' (literally 'that-ness') refers precisely to a common principle which underlies differing appearances (or instances). So, if I may, I take it as agreed that the name 'tattva-shastra' refers to a reasoned investigation ('shastra') into that changeless and common reality ('tattva') which underlies a changing variety of differing appearances. And further, I take it as agreed that the names 'philosophia' and 'philosophy' refer to the same investigation, whose essence is a love of wisdom or true knowing. Where true knowing is confused with the inadequate perceptions and beliefs of our partial personalities, this confusion produces various changing and differing appearances, which are shown superimposed upon the common principle of reality that's truly known. The word 'philosophy' refers then simply to that love of true knowing which uses reason to discern what's true from what is false, thus investigating back from the confusions and complexities of superimposition to the plain and simple truth of reality that is directly known. That investigation back is from the 'many' to the 'one', from the changing variety of superimposed appearances to the changeless simplicity of underlying reality. The changing variety is superimposed by a picturing of world that is constructed by our senses and our minds. The changeless simplicity belongs to the unconstructed background, beneath the sensual and mental picturing. Each sensual and mental object is a pictured element, which takes part in the picturing. Where such objects are desired, this desire drives action that takes make-belief for granted, in the conception of some partial objective and how it may be attained. Here, the action is directed partially -- towards an object which is pictured on the basis of some partial belief, but which is not quite fully and impartially known. As such action is driven by desire towards physical and mental objects, it does not examine the make-belief that it implies and assumes. In its overriding concern with achieving objects, it does not ask how far its assumed beliefs are true. It lets pass an element of prejudice and make-belief and obscurity, which is not open to examination and not clearly known. In pursuit of desired objects, we keep on letting pass some degree of ignorance and prejudice and 'white lies' that go on compromising what we get done and what we learn thereby. In the course of time, as one object is pursued after another, the compromise builds up; so that our pictures and beliefs keep getting further complicated and confused. But there are times when we get fed up with the compromise. Then we lose interest in the partial objects of our sensual and mental picturing. Our interest then turns to ask for a truth that is one hundred percent, beneath the partialities and compromises of the picturing. We ask then for a plain and simple truth that is impartial and uncompromised. It's there that philosophy comes in, with its love of true knowing. There, truth is not sought for the sake of any pictured object, but only for itself. It's sought for the pure love of knowing truly and impartially. That pure love seeks what is truly and impartially shown, by the compromised and partial appearances which are produced by our physical and mental picturing. That love reflects accordingly upon the pictured show, to ask what's false and what is true in the beliefs on which the picturing has been constructed. This asking is for clarity. It seeks clear truth, freed from its confusing mixture with falsity, in the appearances that are constructed by the picturing. And the asking is essentially reflective. It essentially turns back from the built-up pictures; so as to ask down beneath their assumed beliefs, towards an unpictured and unconstructed ground, beneath all the construction and the picturing. This is what I had in mind, when I wrote: "... from an Advaita perspective, system-building goes in quite the opposite direction to philosophy. The proper task of philosophy is to turn back from building pictures, by a skeptical investigation down into their assumed foundations." Please forgive me if I gave the impression of dismissing system-building entirely. It can of course be used as an aid to philosophical enquiry, by stating some basic assumptions and constructing a systematic theory from them. This system-building can be used to develop generic concepts that refer to common principles, when we reflect upon their meaning. For example, in the theory of Advaita, the generic concept of 'consciousness' is developed as referring to a basic principle that is common to all particular states and instances of knowing. And we understand this concept of 'consciousness' reflectively -- by asking back from changing states of knowing to the changeless principle that stays present through them all, as their common background. Accordingly, we may consider that system-building and reflective enquiry are two complementary aspects of any science, from the most calculating and objective kind of physics to the most deeply reflective and subjective philosophy. In this sense, I appreciate that Michael has a point when he says that "Wisdom [at the unpictured depth of subjective knowing] and the empirical [build-up of objective picturing] were not separate from each other ..." Moreover, I would go on to say that this is true not just for ancient and classical Greeks but also for all cultures and traditions everywhere. But when Michael speaks of "the actual equation in the Greek mind" of wisdom and system building and when he says that "Really it is quite obvious that the opposition ... did not exist for them at all", then this is one of those situations where it is perhaps best that we agree to differ. For I cannot help thinking that some Greek philosophers made quite a sharp and prominent distinction between the true knowing of wisdom and the construction of pictures (systematic or otherwise) from belief. In particular, Parmenides makes a very sharp and prominent distinction between two ways of learning. They are the way of 'aletheia' or 'truth' and the way of 'doxa' or 'belief and appearance'. In 'Peri psuche' or 'On Nature' (fragment 8.35-40), Parmenides says: It is one and the same thing: both to know and to be that for whose sake knowledge is. For knowing never can be found apart from that which is. There is not now, nor ever shall there be anything besides what is. For of necessity, it is defined as one and unchanging. Hence, 'coming to be' and 'passing away', 'presence' and 'absence', 'change of place' and 'alteration of bright colour': all these are merely names given by the dying, who believe them to be true. As I interpret this passage, it has two parts. The first part describes 'aletheia' -- as a non-dual truth where "to know and to be are one and the same thing", which is "of necessity ... defined as one and unchanging". The second part describes 'doxa' -- as a conflicting and confused realm of changing appearances, where "'coming to be' and 'passing away' ... and 'alteration of bright colour' ... are merely names given by the dying, who believe them to be true." System-building, as a changing activity would of course be included in the realm of doxa, and thus rather sharply distinguished from the true knowing of 'aletheia'. Shortly after Parmenides, Socrates makes a specific distinction between reflective questioning which he calls 'noesis' and 'system-building' which he calls 'dianoia'. This distinction is made in the simile of the 'divided line', where noesis is identified with philosophy and 'dianoia' with the constructive science of geometry. Thus, Socrates accords a certain preparatory value to 'dianoia' and its system-building. But it is definitely distinguished from the reflectively reasoned questioning of 'noesis', which he presents as the highest way to true knowing. In regard to the ancient mysteries and oracles and rituals, Socrates has an interesting position. He paid them great respect, as a vital part of the learning and culture of his times. In fact, in his personal life, there was quite something of a mystical and yogic side. He tells us that his decisions were crucially guided by an inner voice, which he called his 'daemon' (a sort of guardian spirit or inner 'deva'). And there are reports by his contemporaries about some amazingly long spells of concentrated contemplation. But, as I interpret it, this yogic and mystical side was mainly a matter of his personal life, in the society and culture of his place and times. When it came to an investigation into impersonal truth, he showed a marked preference for reasoned questioning, in which the questioner must quite uncompromisingly examine her or his own habits of assumption and belief. Having said this, I must of course immediately admit that my interpretation is only one among many. These matters of history must belong to the personally transacted realm of vyavahara, where rather differing interpretations are appropriate for different people. Shri Sankarraman asked (post 30167, Feb 7) if I am influenced by Shri Atmananda, who taught for many years at his home in Trivandrum. Yes indeed, I am a follower of Shri Atmananda, and my approach is determined by his teaching. This teaching centres upon reasoned enquiry, as Shri Sankarraman points out. But that reason does not put faith in mind. Its faith is in true knowing, from which it arises and to which it is meant to make the mind reflect. Reflecting there, the mind dissolves and with it all distinctions of reason and unreason. It's only there that all faith and reason are found justified. Again, all this is said from the limited viewpoint of just one particular sadhaka. Ananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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