Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Namaste, The views of Gandhi-ji on this subject are worth reading and pondering over: http://tinyurl.com/hckbc Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 post number 30510 Respected Sunder-ji : Thanks for posting this link. As you all know by now , i hold Gandhiji in very high esteem and whatever he says is 'veda vakku' ( meaning scriptural injunction) in the link , sunderji has posted, gandhiji is supporting the varnashrama dharma . however in the other artilcles that i read , here are some highlights from gandhiji's views on the same subject . "I regard Varnashrama as a healthy division of work based on birth. The present ideas of caste are a perversion of the original. There is no question with me of superiority or inferiority. It is purely a question of duty. I have indeed stated that varna is based on birth. But I have also said that it is possible for a shudra, for instance, to become a vaishya. But in order to perform the duty of a vaishya he does not need the label of a vaishya. He who performs the duty of a BrahmIn will easily become one in the next incarnation.". ---- " Numerous verses from the shastras unmistakably show that mere birth counts for nothing. A person must show corresponding works and character to establish his claim by birth. Such verses also enforce the argument that (i) a person loses varna by failing to exhibit its peculiar characteristics; (ii) birth, while it gives a start and enables the parents to determine the training and occupation of their children, does not perpetuate the varna of one's birth, if it is not fulfilled by works. ____________________ - " -The existing innumerable divisions with the attendant artificial restrictions and elaborate ceremonial are harmful to the growth of a religious spirit, as also to the social wellbeing of the Hindus and therefore also their neighbours. "– ---- ---------- " Varnashrama of the shastras is today non-existent in practice. The present caste system is the very antithesis of varna-shrama. The sooner public opinion abolishes it the better." ---- "Caste has nothing to do with religion. It is harmful both to spiritual and national growth.—" "Today Brahmans and kshatriyas, vaishyas and shudras are mere labels. There is utter confusion of varna as I understand it and I wish that all the Hindus will voluntarily call themselves shudras. That is the only way to demonstrate the truth of Brahmanism and to revive Varna Dharma in its true state." http://www.mkgandhi-sarvodaya.org/sfgandhi/sixteenth.htm ********************************************************************** My honest opinion after reading all these various thoughts of Gandhiji on 'varnashrama dharma' makes me believe that the 'varnashrama dharma ' as it was originally practiced was more like Adam smith's division of labor but over time it has degenerated into a mechanism for exploitation and abuse - We have Parasurama who was a brahmin-lover and a hater of Kshatriyas and then we have E.V. RAMASWAMY (EVERA as he was affectionatley called) who was a champion of women's rights and the rights of the non-brahmins - some even labelled him as a brahmin-hater. my point is this is there no mediunm in between these two extremes? Do you have to hate one to love another - can there not be a 'love' for all in the true advaitic spirit of 'oneness'? love and regards ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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