Vedanta and JK's philosophical thoughts

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Pranam to all learned members of this community from a student ( KG level).

 

I consider my self as a fortunate person as my father, who was an ardent

student or "fan" of JK. And he made me read many of his talks - that time i was

just reading it for him and to him. Later he used to make me discuss - and

analyse JK's statments.

 

And a young me only liked JK's questioning attitude...His talks were taking me

to new areas of learning...thinking...

 

But

 

I found myself left high and dry with no idea as to how to proceed further,

either forward or in any other direction....but i was clueless...it looked as

though i am in a desert with no sign board .....only sand and sand dunes.

 

It was then i came across this book - the 7 habits of most effective people by

steven covey...

 

and what shocked me was that what JK was talking...same things are told ...

- almost ---almost only- word to word..same ideas...same thougts...

 

I was more shocked when i read so many articles in "speaking tree" column in

times of India - on spirituality- and almost every article was saying

samething..i could see that what modern management was talking- same thing is

told to us by Vedanta...

 

I didnt know this aspect as I didnt know sanskrit and never had taken the

trouble to reading Vedanta in English..until this turnaround took place.

 

What JK tells us all is to have an open mind - and go on and on enquiring.

And the problem with us all is to arrive at a destination fast- using instant

methods- and then quoting some quotable quotes like " end justifies the means

etc"

 

all jugglery of words and jargons.

 

A study - whether of Buddism or Islam or Christianity or Hinduism - of Dwaita

or Advaita - of Maya or Mithya or Satyam..

 

all these are KNOWLEDGE to be understood.

 

you call a rose as rose because some one gave that flower that name ..and

many people know that by that name.

 

Consciousness is not a matter to be believed ..but to be understood..

you can use another term for that...as long as you and i understand what it is

and know that we are communicating the same thing...it is o.k.

the problem comes when we do not know that we are talking of the same thing.

 

This is what we have to learn and understand from

JK or Kabir or Shankara or any other teacher for that matter.

 

very sorry if have stated things totally wrong..

and i am a student who is eager to study and understand and correct my

misunderstanding...

 

and i thought that expressing this - even if it is foolish- the comments will

make me know and learn a lot more.

 

namaskaram

pairam

 

Ram Chandran <ramvchandran wrote:

Namaste Sri Sankarraman:

 

May I request you to explain in your own words or provide the exact

quotation from JK regarding your observation - "Jiddu Krishnamurthy

equates- this is only my medicore understanding of Krishnamurthy, any

conclusion about that which is as this or that being mind-born and

conceptual- the ultimate truth as one of the absence of a being in

the flux of becoming as against Samkara's positive affirmation."

 

Before I express my opinion, let me also state - though I have read

several of JK's books and attended several Satsanghs on his

philosophical works, I do not want to claim that my understanding of

JK is complete. I admire JK for his valuable contribution especially

for opening the closed minds with dogmatic beliefs and force

them 'think' instead of just 'believe.'

 

To me JK's observation as stated by you appears quite paradoxical!

Isn't it true that any statement from anyone including JK (there can

be no exception!) is mind-born? Does it mean that every assertion

made by every sage and saint is irrelevant to ultimate truth? Please

note that Vedantic philosophy is not dogmatic and as for as I can

see, I do not find that the observations of the Upanishadic sages do

not contradict the summary observation of JK by the famous

statement, "Truth is a pathless land."

 

Let me stop here and wait for insights and observations from other

learned members of the list.

 

Warmest regards,

 

Harih Om!

 

Ram Chandran