Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Hari Om ~~~~~~~ We are discussing enlightement; Let's see waht one great teacher talks, hen he talks of this, Fullness, this Bhuma, Moksha state, Enligtenment. The great sisya( Narada) asks his guru: Please introduce me to this great mystery of Being that you call Bhuma. What is Bhuma? What is this Fullness? "Do you want to know what Completeness is? And do you want to know what finitude is? Here is the definition," says Sanatkumara [ the the seer of the vidya] . "Where one sees nothing except one's own Self, where one hears nothing except one's own Self, where one understands nothing except one's own Self, that is Bhuma, the Absolute; and where one sees something outside oneself, where one hears something outside oneself, where one understands or thinks something outside oneself, that is the finite." "O my dear Narada, your question itself is unfounded and unwarranted. Why do you ask where It is, as if It is in space? But if you want me to tell you where It is, I say It is in space, It is in every nook and corner, in every pinpoint of space. There is no space where It is not; there is no space which It does not occupy." Risi SANATKUMARA, Chhandogya Upanishad 3.24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 yajvan <agnimile wrote: Hari Om ~~~~~~~ We are discussing enlightenment; Let's see what one great teacher talks, hen he talks of this, Fullness, this Bhuma, Moksha state, Enlightenment. The great sisya( Narada) asks his guru: Please introduce me to this great mystery of Being that you call Bhuma. What is Bhuma? What is this Fullness? "Do you want to know what Completeness is? And do you want to know what finitude is? Here is the definition," says Sanatkumara [ the the seer of the vidya] . "Where one sees nothing except one's own Self, where one hears nothing except one's own Self, where one understands nothing except one's own Self, that is Bhuma, the Absolute; and where one sees something outside oneself, where one hears something outside oneself, where one understands or thinks something outside oneself, that is the finite." "O my dear Narada, your question itself is unfounded and unwarranted. Why do you ask where It is, as if It is in space? But if you want me to tell you where It is, I say It is in space, It is in every nook and corner, in every pinpoint of space. There is no space where It is not; there is no space which It does not occupy." Dear Sir, The Bhuma Vidya disposes of our doubt. Surely, enlightenment is not personal, there being no vestige of finitude there, the attribute of samsara.I think the Brahmasutra, interpreted by Adi Sankara, does not accept the Saguna Brahman, the world of Hiranyagarbha as the grand finale, the denouement of Advaita. Sankarraman Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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