misc sanskrit question

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Om Tat Sat

Please tell me what is the difference between

 

Nama ( Nama Sivaya)

Namah (Is it same as Nama or different ?)

Namo (Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya)

 

Also, what is the exact meaning of Harihi ?

 

thanks,

Om Tat Sat

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Nama means salutation

It is Om Namaha Sivaaya and not Nama Sivaaya=salutations to (Lord) siva

csa --Ka --Ju -- Go --Ru is a version of Sanskrit grammer -if Nama comes before

a word starting with these 5 letters one visargam -( is to be added to Nama

-it becomes Namaha---for other letters Namo(salutations to) is used.

Namo Hiranyabhaagave---Namo Vrkshebyo etc

Nama(h) cSashpinjaraya--Nama(h) csahamaanaaya etc

It is why in the slokam in praise of each aksharam of "Panchaakshari" it said

"Ma-kaaraaya mahithaya(ha=:)" Nama(h) Sivaaya -Somayaji

 

mahadevadvaita <mahadevadvaita wrote:

Om Tat Sat

Please tell me what is the difference between

 

Nama ( Nama Sivaya)

Namah (Is it same as Nama or different ?)

Namo (Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya)

 

Also, what is the exact meaning of Harihi ?

 

thanks,

Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

 

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advaitin, Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj

wrote:

>

> Nama means salutation

> It is Om Namaha Sivaaya and not Nama Sivaaya=salutations to

(Lord) siva

> csa --Ka --Ju -- Go --Ru is a version of Sanskrit grammer -if Nama

comes before a word starting with these 5 letters one visargam -

( is to be added to Nama -it becomes Namaha---for other letters

Namo(salutations to) is used.

>

> mahadevadvaita <mahadevadvaita wrote:

>

> Nama ( Nama Sivaya)

> Namah (Is it same as Nama or different ?)

> Namo (Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya)

>

> Also, what is the exact meaning of Harihi ?

>

 

Namaste,

 

To complement the above :

 

The 'sandhi' rules for 'visarga'(10) can be studied at:

 

http://www.sanskrit-

sanscrito.com.ar/english/essentials/sandhirules.html

 

OR http://tinyurl.com/q4c8g

 

 

hariH is the nominative singular proper noun. It is the 650th name

in Vishnu-Sahasra-Namavali. Shankara defines it as : sahetukaM

saMsAraM harati iti hariH | One who removes the cause of cycle of

births and deaths.

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

[Guest guest]

I am confused about his. From whatever Sanskrit I learnt, the following is the

detailed description of the grammatical usage of the words. [i would be a fool

to explain the grammar involved in a phrase that pertains to the praise of the

Supreme (Shiva), but since the original question pertains to this only, I shall

do so here, to whatever extent I understand.]

 

The root nam means to bow in Classical (Panini) Sanskrit. In the earlier days of

the Vedic age, the root nam meant something similar to this only, but the

meaning was a little different. The word 'nam' was used in the context of great

and profound things. Such as "Namo gurave", "Namasshivaaya", "Namaste" etc. So

the word nam meant that the individual appreciates the profundity of the thing.

What is profound about the objects of the verb nam here? In the Vedic age, the

objects guru, Shiva, and tvat were profound aspects.

 

The word guru literally means heavy or profound or the knower of the profound.

In the days of the Aranyakas in India, the only profound thing was considered to

be Brahman.

 

The word Shiva literally means blissful peace, or the good, or the excellent.

 

The word tvat was the root of tvam and in the days of the Upanishads, this word

was a part of the word 'tattvam'. Hence the phrase 'tat tvam asi' in the

Upanishad could be interpreted as either 'tattvam asi' or as 'tat tvam asi'.

 

If the phrase 'Namasshivaaya' is encountered in the hymn as in 'Namasshivaya ca

shivataraaya ca, namasteerthyaaya ca....', you would have to interpret it using

the Vedic context. If otherwise, the word Shiva refers to the God named Shiva.

 

In Classical Sanskrit [most of this is borrowed from Vedic Sanskrit], if a

visarga is followed by certain sounds [vyanjana in grammar], it is replaced as

follows [the English alphabet is not complete for all the sounds in Sanskrit. I

wonder how I should represent it. I know most people here follow some

convention, but I don't seem to understand it. I'll try my best with whatever I

can write.]

 

k - hk

kh - o kh

g - rg

gh - rgh

ngn - o ngh

c - shc

ch - shch

j - o j

jh - o jh

jn - o jn

t - o t

tt - o tt

d - o d

dd - o dd

nn - o nn

th - sth

tth - stth

dh - o dh

ddh - o ddh

n - o n

p - fp

ph - o ph

b - o b

bh - o bh

m - o m

y - o y

r - o r

l - o l

v - o v

sh - shsh

shh - shhshh

s - ss

h - hh

 

But the rules are more caarefully defined in Vedic Sanksrit. I shall not

describe this right now.

 

-Bhikku Yogi

 

Rajagopalan Somayaji <ssrvj wrote: Nama means salutation

It is Om Namaha Sivaaya and not Nama Sivaaya=salutations to (Lord) siva

csa --Ka --Ju -- Go --Ru is a version of Sanskrit grammer -if Nama comes before

a word starting with these 5 letters one visargam -( is to be added to Nama

-it becomes Namaha---for other letters Namo(salutations to) is used.

Namo Hiranyabhaagave---Namo Vrkshebyo etc

Nama(h) cSashpinjaraya--Nama(h) csahamaanaaya etc

It is why in the slokam in praise of each aksharam of "Panchaakshari" it said

"Ma-kaaraaya mahithaya(ha=:)" Nama(h) Sivaaya -Somayaji

 

mahadevadvaita <mahadevadvaita wrote:

Om Tat Sat

Please tell me what is the difference between

 

Nama ( Nama Sivaya)

Namah (Is it same as Nama or different ?)

Namo (Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya)

 

Also, what is the exact meaning of Harihi ?

 

thanks,

Om Tat Sat

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

advaitin, Yogendra Bhikku <bhikkuyogi wrote:

>

> I am confused about his. From whatever Sanskrit I learnt, the

following is the detailed description of the grammatical usage of the

words.

>

> The word tvat was the root of tvam and in the days of the

Upanishads, this word was a part of the word 'tattvam'. Hence the

phrase 'tat tvam asi' in the Upanishad could be interpreted as either

'tattvam asi' or as 'tat tvam asi'.

>

>

 

Namaste,

 

The confusion is caused by mixing a base word with a suffix.

 

http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/

 

tva n. the state of being the place or abode of

 

tva 2 base of the 2nd personal pron.: nom. %{tva4m}

 

 

tattva n. true or real state , truth , reality S3vetUp. Mn. Bhag. &c.

; (in phil.) a true principle (in Sa1m2khya...) PLUS numerous other

meanings

 

 

tvat is not the base of tvam (you); it is a form to be used in

compound words.

 

The -tvam of tattvam is NOT the same as tvam (you).

 

tattvam, kartRRitvam, bhoktRRRitvam denote the -isness, -hood,

-ship, etc.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder