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Dear gurubrothers

jay gurudev,

I am very happy to read about the new

website and your plans. I wish you all very good luck.

I insist that a section of guru pravachan be placed

in the website.

The mantras in the official website are in .wav format

and just to hear for some seconds huge kilobytes have

to be downloaded.

Sadhguru's amrit vachan are not meant for only

sadhaks and shishyas..there are soo...that i felt that

it should reach every spiritually inclined person. so

some months ago i tried to convert pravachans and

stotras to mp3 format.

These mp3 format are lesser in size and take less

time to download than the huge .wav files.

Not caring for the copyright act i had converted some

stotras and pravachans to mp3 and gave it to my

friends. Unfortunately due to sudden damage of the

computer all my hard work was finished. But i am glad

to tell that 30 mins of guru pravachan( side A of

"AAb to Jaag") was converted in mp3 format in just

over 6.40 mb in pieces of 4/5. So u can convert it in

parts. for easy downloads. a single download of 889

kbs would mean 4/5 mins of speech which is better than

(1 min=approx 1mb) of standard .wav files.

I suggest you use mp3 encoding of audio to keep in

the website.

Also i had converted mantras and stotras like "shiva

tandav stotra" , "mrityormamritam gamaya" for approx

800-900 kb. It is unwise to save mantras like that as

it related to "shuddh dwoni" but general people can

have a taste of those divine mantras and stotras. but

for the pravachans, they just have to be clear and

audible to grasp the meaning.

I wish that these points to be taken into

consideration.and i hope that this website will

flourish containing every edition of mantra tantra

yantra magazine and sadhguru's discourses.

 

best wishes,

amit

 

/jay gurudev/

 

 

 

Get email at your own domain with Mail.

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JAI GURUDEV

Hello Amit...

> I am very happy to read about the new website and your plans.

 

Thanks. Your happiness has made all of us happy.

> I wish you all very good luck.

 

Wishing good luck is not enough. You must participate actively.

You haven't suggested any name for the new website.

> I insist that a section of guru pravachan be placed in

> the website.

 

Good idea.

> The mantras in the official website are in .wav format

> and just to hear for some seconds huge kilobytes have

> to be downloaded. Sadhguru's amrit vachan are not meant

> for only sadhaks and shishyas..there are soo...that i felt

> that it should reach every spiritually inclined person. so

> some months ago i tried to convert pravachans and stotras

> to mp3 format. These mp3 format are lesser in size and take

> less time to download than the huge .wav files.

 

As I have mentioned earlier, we can't put audio, video, mp3 etc.

in a Brinkster account. It is not allowed. Written pravachans would

be a better idea.

 

As you already know, this is a collaborative effort and without

everybody's support, this would be nothing but disaster.

WE NEED YOUR ACTIVE SUPPORT.

> Not caring for the copyright act i had converted some

> stotras and pravachans to mp3 and gave it to my

> friends.

 

Don't ever do that again without written permission from Gurudham.

It is illegal.

 

Sincerely,

 

Ashish Marathe

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Jai Gurudev,

amit really nice to hear from u as u told that u have exams and so

that u will be busy for 1-2 months

 

good, how are u doing with ur exams?

amit what ashish told is true to certain extent that it may not be

appropriate to put all mp3 files for free distribution

 

i 100% agree with what u think that Bade Gurudev's pravachan is

useful for any spiritually inclined person

 

but u have to keep in mind the following issues

 

1)if we distribute the pravachan in mp3 format for free then, no one

would really buy the cassttes , becos the money raised from the

cassette sale ,if it goes to some charity organiztion we will be

harming the process but instead some one has to appraoch Gurudham

with the list of things that can be put for free mp3 download

 

so i think Gurudham will agree for atleast few complete cassttes

downloads and many partial downloads(like 15 min of 1 hr cassettes)

 

for example we can also recommend the stotras to be put for downlaod

"siva tandava stotra if not the entire stotra cassettes"

 

2) if we put for complete downloads fake Gurus who have access to

computer will try to copy the content and will be decieving people

u remember that 96 Guru poornima shivir Gurudev told that some 100s

of fake magazines started appearing copying the content of Mantra

tantra yantra vigyan magazine and 1600 Gurus were there, telling

that they were disciples of Bade Gurudev and started giving false

dikshaas to people

 

but if they really want the content they can jsut get by paying few

hundreds of rupees to Gurudham and ordering them, but by not keeping

complete set for downloads we are only trying to minimize such

occurences and not completely eradicate and if u really want to give

the content to people whom u personally feel as genuine and sincere u

can always do that,

becos they get influenced by Gurudev and buy more cassettes and

diksahas and they will have their spiritual life started

but if they are not interested it will stop with the lended cassettes

 

(for example i came to know Gurudev from my friends by first

listening to cassettes and reading books that they lended to me after

which i got influenced and met him and i hope many of u would have

met him the similar way that is want books and cassttes intend to

do,Gurudev hemself told that one of the purpose of writing books is

to get back the disciples who are lost)

 

as we cant decide the peoples genuinty on the web we have to contact

Gurudham for as to what are to be placed on internet ,o as to not

harm the real purpose of knowledge spread to exploitation of people

by fake gurus taking the freely available content

 

 

 

so we have to do knowldege charity but we should not give it to

people who are not sincere and genuine thus saving lot of people from

being exploited than served

 

regarding the mp3 format my 100% to u, we have to come out with plan

and technology as to how to put things in mp3 format and .wav is

really stupid thing , think of it i want ur active participation in

this area

 

so once u are done with ur exams and whenever ur free come with plan

we will forward it to Gurudham

 

ashish how is ur thing going?

I THINK SOME ONE SHOULD CONSTANTLY STAY IN TOUCH WITH WEB WING OF

SIDDHASHRAM AND TRY TO FIND OUT THEIR FUTURE PLANS OF ACTION AND

TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP THEM IMPLEMENT WITH ASSISTANCE OF NEW

WEBSITE AS AN ASSISTING LINK

 

THEY MIGHT ALREADY HAVE THE CATEGORIES FOR WHCICH WE ARE TRYING TO

LIST

SO CAN SOMEONE CONTACT GURUDHAM FIND OUT AS TO WHAT CATEGORIES THEY

COULD NOT IMPLEMENT AS TO LACK OF SPACE /RESOURCES OR BOTH SO THAT WE

CAN SEE AS TO IMPLEMENT THEM IN THE NEW WEB SITE

 

IN THIS WAY WE WILL STICK TO PREAMBLE OF "ASSISTING THE MAIN SITE"

WHAT EVER IT TAKES

 

ARVIND AND ASHISH ARE U LISTENING???????????????????

AND OTHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED ALSO, IF THEY ARE LISTENING??????

 

so pls some one contact GURUDHAM and its webwing and know its plans,

if it requires to go to JODHPUR/DELHI and phone bills iam ready to

sponsor,PLS get back to me in person or public whatever,

PLS TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY ,IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE PREAMBLE

OF THE NEW WEBSITE IS TO ASSIST AND HELP THE MAIN SITE SOME ONE HAS

TO IN CONSTANT TOUCH WITH GURUDHAM AND WEBWING OF SIDDHASHRAM SADHAK

PARIVAR .BECOS WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE FACING AND

TRY TO SOLVE THEM IN ADDITTION TO PROPOSING NEW THINGS

 

ihope ashish or anyone who is interested is listening

 

 

dear arvind regarding backup i apperciate that u are taking the cream

out of the discussion and formatting and presenting it

 

i heartfully appreciate this pains that ur taking but i also want u

to understand that the discussions have imp things which may not seem

cream today in this context but may seem tommorow , i dont want it to

get lost, becos it will be useful in long term as u are compiling info

u have to focus on ur objectives ,in that process u may miss some

good things and we are not perfect beings so we may at times not pick

the right point due to limitidness of thinking

 

 

oso if u are not going to do it,iam doing it let me know, the problem

is i dont have resources right now , i have to borrow it ,but i think

it should not be a problem for u

 

but any how let me know.i really appreciate the and dont

want it to loose under any case the activity that has occured

 

 

luv and care to all of u

Jai Gurudev

 

 

, Amit Shrestha <amit_enigma> wrote:

> Dear gurubrothers

> jay gurudev,

> I am very happy to read about the new

> website and your plans. I wish you all very good luck.

> I insist that a section of guru pravachan be placed

> in the website.

> The mantras in the official website are in .wav format

> and just to hear for some seconds huge kilobytes have

> to be downloaded.

> Sadhguru's amrit vachan are not meant for only

> sadhaks and shishyas..there are soo...that i felt that

> it should reach every spiritually inclined person. so

> some months ago i tried to convert pravachans and

> stotras to mp3 format.

> These mp3 format are lesser in size and take less

> time to download than the huge .wav files.

> Not caring for the copyright act i had converted some

> stotras and pravachans to mp3 and gave it to my

> friends. Unfortunately due to sudden damage of the

> computer all my hard work was finished. But i am glad

> to tell that 30 mins of guru pravachan( side A of

> "AAb to Jaag") was converted in mp3 format in just

> over 6.40 mb in pieces of 4/5. So u can convert it in

> parts. for easy downloads. a single download of 889

> kbs would mean 4/5 mins of speech which is better than

> (1 min=approx 1mb) of standard .wav files.

> I suggest you use mp3 encoding of audio to keep in

> the website.

> Also i had converted mantras and stotras like "shiva

> tandav stotra" , "mrityormamritam gamaya" for approx

> 800-900 kb. It is unwise to save mantras like that as

> it related to "shuddh dwoni" but general people can

> have a taste of those divine mantras and stotras. but

> for the pravachans, they just have to be clear and

> audible to grasp the meaning.

> I wish that these points to be taken into

> consideration.and i hope that this website will

> flourish containing every edition of mantra tantra

> yantra magazine and sadhguru's discourses.

>

> best wishes,

> amit

>

> /jay gurudev/

>

>

>

> Get email at your own domain with Mail.

> http://personal.mail./

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Dear Gurubhais,

 

Kindly discuss things with calm mind and don't get heated

up. Give the imporrance to task and don't let your egos flare up in btw.

 

 

 

Best Regards,

Anurag

 

Ph: 527 6100

527 6108 extn. 4373

 

 

On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, birendra singh m wrote:

> Jai Gurudev,

> amit really nice to hear from u as u told that u have exams and so

> that u will be busy for 1-2 months

>

> good, how are u doing with ur exams?

> amit what ashish told is true to certain extent that it may not be

> appropriate to put all mp3 files for free distribution

>

> i 100% agree with what u think that Bade Gurudev's pravachan is

> useful for any spiritually inclined person

>

> but u have to keep in mind the following issues

>

> 1)if we distribute the pravachan in mp3 format for free then, no one

> would really buy the cassttes , becos the money raised from the

> cassette sale ,if it goes to some charity organiztion we will be

> harming the process but instead some one has to appraoch Gurudham

> with the list of things that can be put for free mp3 download

>

> so i think Gurudham will agree for atleast few complete cassttes

> downloads and many partial downloads(like 15 min of 1 hr cassettes)

>

> for example we can also recommend the stotras to be put for downlaod

> "siva tandava stotra if not the entire stotra cassettes"

>

> 2) if we put for complete downloads fake Gurus who have access to

> computer will try to copy the content and will be decieving people

> u remember that 96 Guru poornima shivir Gurudev told that some 100s

> of fake magazines started appearing copying the content of Mantra

> tantra yantra vigyan magazine and 1600 Gurus were there, telling

> that they were disciples of Bade Gurudev and started giving false

> dikshaas to people

>

> but if they really want the content they can jsut get by paying few

> hundreds of rupees to Gurudham and ordering them, but by not keeping

> complete set for downloads we are only trying to minimize such

> occurences and not completely eradicate and if u really want to give

> the content to people whom u personally feel as genuine and sincere u

> can always do that,

> becos they get influenced by Gurudev and buy more cassettes and

> diksahas and they will have their spiritual life started

> but if they are not interested it will stop with the lended cassettes

>

> (for example i came to know Gurudev from my friends by first

> listening to cassettes and reading books that they lended to me after

> which i got influenced and met him and i hope many of u would have

> met him the similar way that is want books and cassttes intend to

> do,Gurudev hemself told that one of the purpose of writing books is

> to get back the disciples who are lost)

>

> as we cant decide the peoples genuinty on the web we have to contact

> Gurudham for as to what are to be placed on internet ,o as to not

> harm the real purpose of knowledge spread to exploitation of people

> by fake gurus taking the freely available content

>

>

>

> so we have to do knowldege charity but we should not give it to

> people who are not sincere and genuine thus saving lot of people from

> being exploited than served

>

> regarding the mp3 format my 100% to u, we have to come out with plan

> and technology as to how to put things in mp3 format and .wav is

> really stupid thing , think of it i want ur active participation in

> this area

>

> so once u are done with ur exams and whenever ur free come with plan

> we will forward it to Gurudham

>

> ashish how is ur thing going?

> I THINK SOME ONE SHOULD CONSTANTLY STAY IN TOUCH WITH WEB WING OF

> SIDDHASHRAM AND TRY TO FIND OUT THEIR FUTURE PLANS OF ACTION AND

> TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP THEM IMPLEMENT WITH ASSISTANCE OF NEW

> WEBSITE AS AN ASSISTING LINK

>

> THEY MIGHT ALREADY HAVE THE CATEGORIES FOR WHCICH WE ARE TRYING TO

> LIST

> SO CAN SOMEONE CONTACT GURUDHAM FIND OUT AS TO WHAT CATEGORIES THEY

> COULD NOT IMPLEMENT AS TO LACK OF SPACE /RESOURCES OR BOTH SO THAT WE

> CAN SEE AS TO IMPLEMENT THEM IN THE NEW WEB SITE

>

> IN THIS WAY WE WILL STICK TO PREAMBLE OF "ASSISTING THE MAIN SITE"

> WHAT EVER IT TAKES

>

> ARVIND AND ASHISH ARE U LISTENING???????????????????

> AND OTHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED ALSO, IF THEY ARE LISTENING??????

>

> so pls some one contact GURUDHAM and its webwing and know its plans,

> if it requires to go to JODHPUR/DELHI and phone bills iam ready to

> sponsor,PLS get back to me in person or public whatever,

> PLS TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY ,IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE PREAMBLE

> OF THE NEW WEBSITE IS TO ASSIST AND HELP THE MAIN SITE SOME ONE HAS

> TO IN CONSTANT TOUCH WITH GURUDHAM AND WEBWING OF SIDDHASHRAM SADHAK

> PARIVAR .BECOS WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE FACING AND

> TRY TO SOLVE THEM IN ADDITTION TO PROPOSING NEW THINGS

>

> ihope ashish or anyone who is interested is listening

>

>

> dear arvind regarding backup i apperciate that u are taking the cream

> out of the discussion and formatting and presenting it

>

> i heartfully appreciate this pains that ur taking but i also want u

> to understand that the discussions have imp things which may not seem

> cream today in this context but may seem tommorow , i dont want it to

> get lost, becos it will be useful in long term as u are compiling info

> u have to focus on ur objectives ,in that process u may miss some

> good things and we are not perfect beings so we may at times not pick

> the right point due to limitidness of thinking

>

>

> oso if u are not going to do it,iam doing it let me know, the problem

> is i dont have resources right now , i have to borrow it ,but i think

> it should not be a problem for u

>

> but any how let me know.i really appreciate the and dont

> want it to loose under any case the activity that has occured

>

>

> luv and care to all of u

> Jai Gurudev

>

>

> , Amit Shrestha <amit_enigma> wrote:

> > Dear gurubrothers

> > jay gurudev,

> > I am very happy to read about the new

> > website and your plans. I wish you all very good luck.

> > I insist that a section of guru pravachan be placed

> > in the website.

> > The mantras in the official website are in .wav format

> > and just to hear for some seconds huge kilobytes have

> > to be downloaded.

> > Sadhguru's amrit vachan are not meant for only

> > sadhaks and shishyas..there are soo...that i felt that

> > it should reach every spiritually inclined person. so

> > some months ago i tried to convert pravachans and

> > stotras to mp3 format.

> > These mp3 format are lesser in size and take less

> > time to download than the huge .wav files.

> > Not caring for the copyright act i had converted some

> > stotras and pravachans to mp3 and gave it to my

> > friends. Unfortunately due to sudden damage of the

> > computer all my hard work was finished. But i am glad

> > to tell that 30 mins of guru pravachan( side A of

> > "AAb to Jaag") was converted in mp3 format in just

> > over 6.40 mb in pieces of 4/5. So u can convert it in

> > parts. for easy downloads. a single download of 889

> > kbs would mean 4/5 mins of speech which is better than

> > (1 min=approx 1mb) of standard .wav files.

> > I suggest you use mp3 encoding of audio to keep in

> > the website.

> > Also i had converted mantras and stotras like "shiva

> > tandav stotra" , "mrityormamritam gamaya" for approx

> > 800-900 kb. It is unwise to save mantras like that as

> > it related to "shuddh dwoni" but general people can

> > have a taste of those divine mantras and stotras. but

> > for the pravachans, they just have to be clear and

> > audible to grasp the meaning.

> > I wish that these points to be taken into

> > consideration.and i hope that this website will

> > flourish containing every edition of mantra tantra

> > yantra magazine and sadhguru's discourses.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > amit

> >

> > /jay gurudev/

> >

> >

> >

> > Get email at your own domain with Mail.

> > http://personal.mail./

>

>

>

> Jay Gurudev

>

>

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

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hi anurag Jai Gurudev,

i think u didnt understand the scenario completely let me tell u why

iam concerned

 

few months back has deleted my 100's of mails which were very

old without informing me and i was well within the 6mb range

 

i dont know if they did it by mistake /thier algorthim is that way

i lost some useful things in it

 

taking a back up just cost a cd which is not much as compared to the

damages that it costs and besides i am not trying to undermine

arvinds effort ,i know how painstacking it is to do all the

summarization that he is patiently doing,i was only concerned that

the effort that has come this far should not go down , this is only

to consolidate the effort

 

becos many might not have undergone this exp u might not understand

the imp of it personally lost some good mails which i preserved for a

yr

 

 

i beieve that is perfect model for new site in acting as

faithful link to the main site by saving on server space

 

 

 

i hope anurag u understand it , my style of communication might have

caused a wrong signal or my incompelte info ,i dont know,

arvind i and are good friends and will continue to remain as long as

Guru sewa goes

 

so pls anyone dont misunderstand me ,

 

luv to all

Jai Gurudev

 

, Anurag Goel <anurag@s...> wrote:

>

>

> Dear Gurubhais,

>

> Kindly discuss things with calm mind and don't get

heated

> up. Give the imporrance to task and don't let your egos flare up

in btw.

>

>

>

> Best Regards,

> Anurag

>

> Ph: 527 6100

> 527 6108 extn. 4373

>

>

> On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, birendra singh m wrote:

>

> > Jai Gurudev,

> > amit really nice to hear from u as u told that u have exams and so

> > that u will be busy for 1-2 months

> >

> > good, how are u doing with ur exams?

> > amit what ashish told is true to certain extent that it may not be

> > appropriate to put all mp3 files for free distribution

> >

> > i 100% agree with what u think that Bade Gurudev's pravachan is

> > useful for any spiritually inclined person

> >

> > but u have to keep in mind the following issues

> >

> > 1)if we distribute the pravachan in mp3 format for free then, no

one

> > would really buy the cassttes , becos the money raised from the

> > cassette sale ,if it goes to some charity organiztion we will be

> > harming the process but instead some one has to appraoch Gurudham

> > with the list of things that can be put for free mp3 download

> >

> > so i think Gurudham will agree for atleast few complete cassttes

> > downloads and many partial downloads(like 15 min of 1 hr

cassettes)

> >

> > for example we can also recommend the stotras to be put for

downlaod

> > "siva tandava stotra if not the entire stotra cassettes"

> >

> > 2) if we put for complete downloads fake Gurus who have access to

> > computer will try to copy the content and will be decieving

people

> > u remember that 96 Guru poornima shivir Gurudev told that some

100s

> > of fake magazines started appearing copying the content of Mantra

> > tantra yantra vigyan magazine and 1600 Gurus were there, telling

> > that they were disciples of Bade Gurudev and started giving false

> > dikshaas to people

> >

> > but if they really want the content they can jsut get by paying

few

> > hundreds of rupees to Gurudham and ordering them, but by not

keeping

> > complete set for downloads we are only trying to minimize such

> > occurences and not completely eradicate and if u really want to

give

> > the content to people whom u personally feel as genuine and

sincere u

> > can always do that,

> > becos they get influenced by Gurudev and buy more cassettes and

> > diksahas and they will have their spiritual life started

> > but if they are not interested it will stop with the lended

cassettes

> >

> > (for example i came to know Gurudev from my friends by first

> > listening to cassettes and reading books that they lended to me

after

> > which i got influenced and met him and i hope many of u would have

> > met him the similar way that is want books and cassttes intend to

> > do,Gurudev hemself told that one of the purpose of writing books

is

> > to get back the disciples who are lost)

> >

> > as we cant decide the peoples genuinty on the web we have to

contact

> > Gurudham for as to what are to be placed on internet ,o as to not

> > harm the real purpose of knowledge spread to exploitation of

people

> > by fake gurus taking the freely available content

> >

> >

> >

> > so we have to do knowldege charity but we should not give it to

> > people who are not sincere and genuine thus saving lot of people

from

> > being exploited than served

> >

> > regarding the mp3 format my 100% to u, we have to come out with

plan

> > and technology as to how to put things in mp3 format and .wav is

> > really stupid thing , think of it i want ur active participation

in

> > this area

> >

> > so once u are done with ur exams and whenever ur free come with

plan

> > we will forward it to Gurudham

> >

> > ashish how is ur thing going?

> > I THINK SOME ONE SHOULD CONSTANTLY STAY IN TOUCH WITH WEB WING OF

> > SIDDHASHRAM AND TRY TO FIND OUT THEIR FUTURE PLANS OF ACTION AND

> > TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP THEM IMPLEMENT WITH ASSISTANCE OF NEW

> > WEBSITE AS AN ASSISTING LINK

> >

> > THEY MIGHT ALREADY HAVE THE CATEGORIES FOR WHCICH WE ARE TRYING TO

> > LIST

> > SO CAN SOMEONE CONTACT GURUDHAM FIND OUT AS TO WHAT CATEGORIES

THEY

> > COULD NOT IMPLEMENT AS TO LACK OF SPACE /RESOURCES OR BOTH SO

THAT WE

> > CAN SEE AS TO IMPLEMENT THEM IN THE NEW WEB SITE

> >

> > IN THIS WAY WE WILL STICK TO PREAMBLE OF "ASSISTING THE MAIN SITE"

> > WHAT EVER IT TAKES

> >

> > ARVIND AND ASHISH ARE U LISTENING???????????????????

> > AND OTHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED ALSO, IF THEY ARE LISTENING??????

> >

> > so pls some one contact GURUDHAM and its webwing and know its

plans,

> > if it requires to go to JODHPUR/DELHI and phone bills iam ready to

> > sponsor,PLS get back to me in person or public whatever,

> > PLS TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY ,IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE

PREAMBLE

> > OF THE NEW WEBSITE IS TO ASSIST AND HELP THE MAIN SITE SOME ONE

HAS

> > TO IN CONSTANT TOUCH WITH GURUDHAM AND WEBWING OF SIDDHASHRAM

SADHAK

> > PARIVAR .BECOS WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE FACING

AND

> > TRY TO SOLVE THEM IN ADDITTION TO PROPOSING NEW THINGS

> >

> > ihope ashish or anyone who is interested is listening

> >

> >

> > dear arvind regarding backup i apperciate that u are taking the

cream

> > out of the discussion and formatting and presenting it

> >

> > i heartfully appreciate this pains that ur taking but i also want

u

> > to understand that the discussions have imp things which may not

seem

> > cream today in this context but may seem tommorow , i dont want

it to

> > get lost, becos it will be useful in long term as u are compiling

info

> > u have to focus on ur objectives ,in that process u may miss some

> > good things and we are not perfect beings so we may at times not

pick

> > the right point due to limitidness of thinking

> >

> >

> > oso if u are not going to do it,iam doing it let me know, the

problem

> > is i dont have resources right now , i have to borrow it ,but i

think

> > it should not be a problem for u

> >

> > but any how let me know.i really appreciate the and dont

> > want it to loose under any case the activity that has occured

> >

> >

> > luv and care to all of u

> > Jai Gurudev

> >

> >

> > , Amit Shrestha <amit_enigma> wrote:

> > > Dear gurubrothers

> > > jay gurudev,

> > > I am very happy to read about the new

> > > website and your plans. I wish you all very good luck.

> > > I insist that a section of guru pravachan be placed

> > > in the website.

> > > The mantras in the official website are in .wav format

> > > and just to hear for some seconds huge kilobytes have

> > > to be downloaded.

> > > Sadhguru's amrit vachan are not meant for only

> > > sadhaks and shishyas..there are soo...that i felt that

> > > it should reach every spiritually inclined person. so

> > > some months ago i tried to convert pravachans and

> > > stotras to mp3 format.

> > > These mp3 format are lesser in size and take less

> > > time to download than the huge .wav files.

> > > Not caring for the copyright act i had converted some

> > > stotras and pravachans to mp3 and gave it to my

> > > friends. Unfortunately due to sudden damage of the

> > > computer all my hard work was finished. But i am glad

> > > to tell that 30 mins of guru pravachan( side A of

> > > "AAb to Jaag") was converted in mp3 format in just

> > > over 6.40 mb in pieces of 4/5. So u can convert it in

> > > parts. for easy downloads. a single download of 889

> > > kbs would mean 4/5 mins of speech which is better than

> > > (1 min=approx 1mb) of standard .wav files.

> > > I suggest you use mp3 encoding of audio to keep in

> > > the website.

> > > Also i had converted mantras and stotras like "shiva

> > > tandav stotra" , "mrityormamritam gamaya" for approx

> > > 800-900 kb. It is unwise to save mantras like that as

> > > it related to "shuddh dwoni" but general people can

> > > have a taste of those divine mantras and stotras. but

> > > for the pravachans, they just have to be clear and

> > > audible to grasp the meaning.

> > > I wish that these points to be taken into

> > > consideration.and i hope that this website will

> > > flourish containing every edition of mantra tantra

> > > yantra magazine and sadhguru's discourses.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > amit

> > >

> > > /jay gurudev/

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Get email at your own domain with Mail.

> > > http://personal.mail./

> >

> >

> >

> > Jay Gurudev

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Your use of is subject to

> >

> >

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Dear Birendraji, Anuragji, and all Guru Bhais

Jaya Guru Dev!

 

Thanks for entrusting me with an assignment on Current Shivirs and Standard

Operating Procedures for hosting shivirs.

Thanks for the view on Pseudogurus,

I agree we should ignore all these people with no connection with Guru Dham,

I must have been worked up by the fact that Kathmandu has become a sort of

base for the old and past disciples of Param Pujya Prabhu who have

instantly;y converted themselves and became Gurus or Thekedars for Guru Dham

after some years of practicing Gurudev's teachings. I came across with some

Gurusewak's who got the golden opportunity to serve Guru Dham for sevral

years. I would think they were the luckiest of all shishyas until I cam

across one or two so called sishyas who have been diverted by petty personal

interest and ego set up Ashram in the name of Param Pujya Guru Dev started

to make a living out of that. My intention on my request was to warn new

Guru Bhai/Bhahans coming into contact who could easily be mislead by these

people. But do not disagree with you. We should only list the genuine

Organisations which are authentic.

 

On the issue of audio video posting...

Please note that we have produced 4 well edited video recordings of Shivir

proceedings. WE did send one complete set to Guru Dham and got it submitted

to Param Pujya Guru Dev. We also sent couple to some Gurubhais outside

Kathmandu... One response we got is note worthy.... He suggested that we

should omit some part of proceedings of Sadharan Dikshya given by Pujya Guru

Dev in the shivir as this could easily be misused by one of the quack

Shishyas to start making money by starting to give Dikshya through Video

recording. We have edited the rest of the cassettes on his advice.

 

 

Cheers

 

 

Jaya Guru Dev

 

Bishnu

Global Medicine Pvt. Ltd.,

3/555 Harihar Bhavan

P. O. Box 5659, Kathmandu, Nepal

Fax 977 1 523282, Phone 977 1 528372

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birendra singh m <birendra_m

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Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:25 AM

Re: Discourses

 

> Jai Gurudev,

> amit really nice to hear from u as u told that u have exams and so

> that u will be busy for 1-2 months

>

> good, how are u doing with ur exams?

> amit what ashish told is true to certain extent that it may not be

> appropriate to put all mp3 files for free distribution

>

> i 100% agree with what u think that Bade Gurudev's pravachan is

> useful for any spiritually inclined person

>

> but u have to keep in mind the following issues

>

> 1)if we distribute the pravachan in mp3 format for free then, no one

> would really buy the cassttes , becos the money raised from the

> cassette sale ,if it goes to some charity organiztion we will be

> harming the process but instead some one has to appraoch Gurudham

> with the list of things that can be put for free mp3 download

>

> so i think Gurudham will agree for atleast few complete cassttes

> downloads and many partial downloads(like 15 min of 1 hr cassettes)

>

> for example we can also recommend the stotras to be put for downlaod

> "siva tandava stotra if not the entire stotra cassettes"

>

> 2) if we put for complete downloads fake Gurus who have access to

> computer will try to copy the content and will be decieving people

> u remember that 96 Guru poornima shivir Gurudev told that some 100s

> of fake magazines started appearing copying the content of Mantra

> tantra yantra vigyan magazine and 1600 Gurus were there, telling

> that they were disciples of Bade Gurudev and started giving false

> dikshaas to people

>

> but if they really want the content they can jsut get by paying few

> hundreds of rupees to Gurudham and ordering them, but by not keeping

> complete set for downloads we are only trying to minimize such

> occurences and not completely eradicate and if u really want to give

> the content to people whom u personally feel as genuine and sincere u

> can always do that,

> becos they get influenced by Gurudev and buy more cassettes and

> diksahas and they will have their spiritual life started

> but if they are not interested it will stop with the lended cassettes

>

> (for example i came to know Gurudev from my friends by first

> listening to cassettes and reading books that they lended to me after

> which i got influenced and met him and i hope many of u would have

> met him the similar way that is want books and cassttes intend to

> do,Gurudev hemself told that one of the purpose of writing books is

> to get back the disciples who are lost)

>

> as we cant decide the peoples genuinty on the web we have to contact

> Gurudham for as to what are to be placed on internet ,o as to not

> harm the real purpose of knowledge spread to exploitation of people

> by fake gurus taking the freely available content

>

>

>

> so we have to do knowldege charity but we should not give it to

> people who are not sincere and genuine thus saving lot of people from

> being exploited than served

>

> regarding the mp3 format my 100% to u, we have to come out with plan

> and technology as to how to put things in mp3 format and .wav is

> really stupid thing , think of it i want ur active participation in

> this area

>

> so once u are done with ur exams and whenever ur free come with plan

> we will forward it to Gurudham

>

> ashish how is ur thing going?

> I THINK SOME ONE SHOULD CONSTANTLY STAY IN TOUCH WITH WEB WING OF

> SIDDHASHRAM AND TRY TO FIND OUT THEIR FUTURE PLANS OF ACTION AND

> TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP THEM IMPLEMENT WITH ASSISTANCE OF NEW

> WEBSITE AS AN ASSISTING LINK

>

> THEY MIGHT ALREADY HAVE THE CATEGORIES FOR WHCICH WE ARE TRYING TO

> LIST

> SO CAN SOMEONE CONTACT GURUDHAM FIND OUT AS TO WHAT CATEGORIES THEY

> COULD NOT IMPLEMENT AS TO LACK OF SPACE /RESOURCES OR BOTH SO THAT WE

> CAN SEE AS TO IMPLEMENT THEM IN THE NEW WEB SITE

>

> IN THIS WAY WE WILL STICK TO PREAMBLE OF "ASSISTING THE MAIN SITE"

> WHAT EVER IT TAKES

>

> ARVIND AND ASHISH ARE U LISTENING???????????????????

> AND OTHERS WHO ARE INTERESTED ALSO, IF THEY ARE LISTENING??????

>

> so pls some one contact GURUDHAM and its webwing and know its plans,

> if it requires to go to JODHPUR/DELHI and phone bills iam ready to

> sponsor,PLS get back to me in person or public whatever,

> PLS TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY ,IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE PREAMBLE

> OF THE NEW WEBSITE IS TO ASSIST AND HELP THE MAIN SITE SOME ONE HAS

> TO IN CONSTANT TOUCH WITH GURUDHAM AND WEBWING OF SIDDHASHRAM SADHAK

> PARIVAR .BECOS WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE FACING AND

> TRY TO SOLVE THEM IN ADDITTION TO PROPOSING NEW THINGS

>

> ihope ashish or anyone who is interested is listening

>

>

> dear arvind regarding backup i apperciate that u are taking the cream

> out of the discussion and formatting and presenting it

>

> i heartfully appreciate this pains that ur taking but i also want u

> to understand that the discussions have imp things which may not seem

> cream today in this context but may seem tommorow , i dont want it to

> get lost, becos it will be useful in long term as u are compiling info

> u have to focus on ur objectives ,in that process u may miss some

> good things and we are not perfect beings so we may at times not pick

> the right point due to limitidness of thinking

>

>

> oso if u are not going to do it,iam doing it let me know, the problem

> is i dont have resources right now , i have to borrow it ,but i think

> it should not be a problem for u

>

> but any how let me know.i really appreciate the and dont

> want it to loose under any case the activity that has occured

>

>

> luv and care to all of u

> Jai Gurudev

>

>

> , Amit Shrestha <amit_enigma> wrote:

> > Dear gurubrothers

> > jay gurudev,

> > I am very happy to read about the new

> > website and your plans. I wish you all very good luck.

> > I insist that a section of guru pravachan be placed

> > in the website.

> > The mantras in the official website are in .wav format

> > and just to hear for some seconds huge kilobytes have

> > to be downloaded.

> > Sadhguru's amrit vachan are not meant for only

> > sadhaks and shishyas..there are soo...that i felt that

> > it should reach every spiritually inclined person. so

> > some months ago i tried to convert pravachans and

> > stotras to mp3 format.

> > These mp3 format are lesser in size and take less

> > time to download than the huge .wav files.

> > Not caring for the copyright act i had converted some

> > stotras and pravachans to mp3 and gave it to my

> > friends. Unfortunately due to sudden damage of the

> > computer all my hard work was finished. But i am glad

> > to tell that 30 mins of guru pravachan( side A of

> > "AAb to Jaag") was converted in mp3 format in just

> > over 6.40 mb in pieces of 4/5. So u can convert it in

> > parts. for easy downloads. a single download of 889

> > kbs would mean 4/5 mins of speech which is better than

> > (1 min=approx 1mb) of standard .wav files.

> > I suggest you use mp3 encoding of audio to keep in

> > the website.

> > Also i had converted mantras and stotras like "shiva

> > tandav stotra" , "mrityormamritam gamaya" for approx

> > 800-900 kb. It is unwise to save mantras like that as

> > it related to "shuddh dwoni" but general people can

> > have a taste of those divine mantras and stotras. but

> > for the pravachans, they just have to be clear and

> > audible to grasp the meaning.

> > I wish that these points to be taken into

> > consideration.and i hope that this website will

> > flourish containing every edition of mantra tantra

> > yantra magazine and sadhguru's discourses.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > amit

> >

> > /jay gurudev/

> >

> >

> >

> > Get email at your own domain with Mail.

> > http://personal.mail./

>

>

>

> Jay Gurudev

>

>

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

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