Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Dear Guru brothers & sisters, Jai Gurudev. I am trying to put together a list of tasks/avenues for publicising and increasing the membership of the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan magazine. The basic idea behind this is to spread and propagate revered Gurudev's message to more and more people, so that they too, obtain benefit from this. This is the era of advertising and publicity, and we , as disciples & sadhaks , have to join together and utilise the marketing mediums to spread the message. People tend to get attracted only to sweet, sugary advertisements. Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased in India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks & astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat literature, and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - Tantra, Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , television and internet. Many people have started to get misled by this, and these copycats will not be able to satisy them. There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start blaming and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science itself; instead of the copycat-gurus. We have a duty to propagate and spread the light of the true knowledge. To do this, we will need to market the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan magazine through various mediums. I have jotted together a basic list of proposals. Please think, and contribute your ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should implement these ideas in our local areas to introduce more people. Knowledge increases by spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak, it is our main duty to increase the magazine membership. a. Putting an advertisement in local newspaper about Magazine , Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly for a single person, however 3-4 persons can join together and do this) b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for sadhana camps etc. (can, and sud be done while organising a sadhana camp) c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan magazine in public areas and other high-visibility-spots (like buses, trains etc.) (cud be costly & timeconsuming. However, the lifetime & visibility of ad is pretty large and effective. 3-4 persons can join together) d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan in local cable tv (highly effective, and reaches many houses. ) e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in local temple on every Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day every month. (Has curiosity factor for regular temple visitors, and they might participate) f. Talk to local public libraries, and put in 2-3 copies of magazine (both english & hindi) in the library. (effective, however library personnel sud take care of magazine, and keep it in library/issue for short-time .) g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow students and people in your friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev & Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan. Encourage them to become member. Don't be shy (!) in telling people about this. h. Talk to your local book sellers and get them to stock the magazine. They, anyway get a good commission on the Magazine sale. i. Publicise on internet. j. Devote some time every month (eg. every Thursday) towards this effort. k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may keep a copy of magazine in your waiting room, so that people can browse thru it. However, refrain from giving it free to anyone, as people don't recognise the value of anything that they get free. I have created a folder called "mtyv membership" on the group. This message is stored on this folder as file called "initial proposal". You can go there by clicking on files..... You may add your comments as a separate file within this folder itself, or u may send email replies. It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only Sadhana & spirituality related message traffic on the group. In recent days, we have seen at least two "" requests, which is very bad news. Probably these people wanted to see only Sadhana related messages. Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message. Awaiting your comments, Please keep the ideas flowing. Afterwords we can put it on the "brinkster website". Jai Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 JAI GURUDEV Dear Arvind, Excellent work. That's what this group is all about. > Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased > in India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks & > astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat > literature, and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - > Tantra, Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , > television and internet. Many people have started to get misled > by this, and these copycats will not be able to satisy them. > There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start > blaming and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science > itself; instead of the copycat-gurus. This is happening almost everywhere including local branches of Siddhashram Sadhak Parivar because people prefer fiction not facts. People want miracles. They won't believe you if you tell them the reality. We must sort out a solution and send it to Gurudham, so that firm guideline can be worked out for branches of SSP. > It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only > Sadhana & spirituality related message traffic on the group. If they want it, we must provide them, in a balanced manner, steering them from fiction to fact. > Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message. Thanks to you for your time, effort and devotion. Ashish Marathe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Jai Gurudev Dear Shri Arvindji I do agree with your idea of spreading the good message all around. But I have some reservations on this. The way you have suggested is very effective and we can increase the r list in a very fast manner. But that boom will not be permanent. We need devotees and true sadhaks not fly by night peoples. I think we should do some more planning and try to popular our magazine in a stablize manner. As a first step, I think we can use the e-mail as a medium. For this we may prepare a good letter/e-mail describing the features of MTYM and other spritual benefits attached, in a good manner. AFter this, we can request our memebers to forward that e-mail from their e- mail account to atleast 5-10 persons and sending a copy to a common e- mail account that we can delete later. By this method alone, we can cover around 500 persons in one go. AFter this, we may gradually shift our focus to any other method. But before making this publicly open, just give a thought to the response also. Because I think people may not take it wrongly. Jai Gurudev Charanjit , arvind_sharma@b... wrote: > Dear Guru brothers & sisters, > Jai Gurudev. > > I am trying to put together a list of tasks/avenues for publicising > and increasing the membership of the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan > magazine. > The basic idea behind this is to spread and propagate revered > Gurudev's message to more and more people, so that they too, obtain > benefit from this. > This is the era of advertising and publicity, and we , as disciples & > sadhaks , have to join together and utilise the marketing mediums to > spread the message. People tend to get attracted only to sweet, > sugary advertisements. > Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased in > India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks & > astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat literature, > and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - Tantra, > Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , television and > internet. Many people have started to get misled by this, and these > copycats will not be able to satisy them. > There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start blaming > and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science itself; instead > of the copycat-gurus. > > We have a duty to propagate and spread the light of the true > knowledge. To do this, we will need to market the Mantra Tantra > Yantra Vigyan magazine through various mediums. I have jotted > together a basic list of proposals. Please think, and contribute your > ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should implement these ideas in our > local areas to introduce more people. Knowledge increases by > spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak, it is our main duty to > increase the magazine membership. > > a. Putting an advertisement in local newspaper about Magazine , > Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly for a single person, however 3-4 > persons can join together and do this) > b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for sadhana camps etc. (can, > and sud be done while organising a sadhana camp) > c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan > magazine in public areas and other high-visibility-spots (like buses, > trains etc.) (cud be costly & timeconsuming. However, the lifetime & > visibility of ad is pretty large and effective. 3-4 persons can join > together) > d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan in local cable tv > (highly effective, and reaches many houses. ) > e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in local temple on every > Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day every month. (Has curiosity > factor for regular temple visitors, and they might participate) > f. Talk to local public libraries, and put in 2-3 copies of magazine > (both english & hindi) in the library. (effective, however library > personnel sud take care of magazine, and keep it in library/issue for > short-time .) > g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow students and people in your > friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev & Mantra Tantra Yantra > Vigyan. Encourage them to become member. Don't be shy (!) in telling > people about this. > h. Talk to your local book sellers and get them to stock the > magazine. They, anyway get a good commission on the Magazine sale. > i. Publicise on internet. > j. Devote some time every month (eg. every Thursday) towards this > effort. > k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may keep a copy of magazine > in your waiting room, so that people can browse thru it. However, > refrain from giving it free to anyone, as people don't recognise the > value of anything that they get free. > > I have created a folder called "mtyv membership" on the > group. This message is stored on this folder as file called "initial > proposal". You can go there by clicking on files..... > You may add your comments as a separate file within this folder > itself, or u may send email replies. > > It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only Sadhana & > spirituality related message traffic on the group. In recent days, we > have seen at least two "" requests, which is very bad > news. Probably these people wanted to see only Sadhana related > messages. > > Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message. > Awaiting your comments, Please keep the ideas flowing. Afterwords we > can put it on the "brinkster website". > Jai Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Jai Gurudev, Thanks for your comments. I feel that most of the people don't care much about God while the going is good (Of course there are many exceptions to this). If one has a stable job, a good family life, healthy & wealthy life, one tends to stay within this "maya" (delusion), and doesn't care. One turns to God only in case of disasters eg. problem in job, diseases, enemities, family problems etc. etc. Of course, there are some people who aren't satisfied by material life, and aspire for spiritual awareness, sense of fulfilment, meditation etc. They are the constant and pure seekers of Divine knowledge. Now, if one performs Sadhanas, then one should not face these problems. Or, rather, one can solve these problems by performing Sadhanas. Our ancient sages knew about this, and they developed quick-acting sadhanas to aid the common man. This knowledge is a gift to us from our ancestors and poojya Gurudev; and we should forward this knowledge to others , so that they benefit. Sadhanas exist for "parhit" (to help the needy, the diseased, the poor, to elevate the downtrodden in society etc.). It is our duty to spread this message to them. Mostly, one comes to Sadhana_world with lots of doubts and apprehensions. However, as (s)he starts getting success, the confidence, faith and devotion starts developing. Some people stay on this path, and achieve more success. Others forget about Sadhanas and go back into "maya" (delusion) once their problems are solved. I will not worry about "fly-by-night" people, because, they won't get anything here. Of course, if they wish to resolve their problems thru this, then they are welcome to join. Our job is just to become a medium to spread this message to every human on this planet, if I may say so. Let everyone be aware that such "spiritual sciences" exist, like everyone knows about "pepsi cola" on this planet!! Revered Gurudev will take care of the rest. It really pains me to see only 73 members on this list. just 73. Only 73 people on internet are aware about us and our message!! And two of them have sent mails to . It is really shameful. Everyone knows about & altavista. Even junk groups have thousands of members. Why don't they know about us? Everyone is familiar with "asharam bapuji" or "brahma-kumari" or osho/rajneesh" and other self-styled acharyas, who just give some discourses from xyz book. I am not criticising them, I am merely pointing out that we have a real, practical, authentic knowledge to share with rest of the world. We have something which is million times more powerful and effective than pure bhakti , basic-meditation or singing of hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful legacy, and we represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown? Staying unknown will extinguish the little flame of knowledge that our Gurudev lighted. Let the word spread to the masses, let everyone be aware about it. I know that most of the people will come only to expect quick miracles, but let them come. Your idea about forwarding to email addresses sounds attractive, However, it has to be done very carefully to avoid getting negative publicity, or becoming treated as a trash/junk mail. We had discussed about receiving junk/angry flames or trash responses on the website before. We had some concerns about this group becoming a trash-pot. However, I guess that with good moderating policy&effort to delete all trash responses, we might solve this issue. Dogs will bark only if an Elephant moves across the road. But the elephant has to get up & walk before dogs start barking! I think that we are big/mature enough to handle such flames. I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by "pirating" stuff from the website. I am attaching it again here. Any comments on improving/changing it? : Hullo, we invite you to the International Siddhashram Sadhak Parivar discussion list at This is a meeting space for friendly discussion and exchange of ideas on Spiritual & Material Growth, Sadhanas, Mantras, Tantra, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Astrology, Hypnotism, Paranormal, Occult, Alchemy and other similar interests. Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan is a popular monthly magazine about ancient Indian Sciences. Started in 1981 by Revered Gurudev Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji, it provides detailed, authentic and practical information on Mantras, Tantric Procedures, Yantras, Astrology, Sadhnas, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Hypnotism, Numerology, Palmistry, Alchemy, Spiritualism ,Occult sciences etc. and aims to remove the misconceptions and superstitions associated with ancient Hindu rituals and practices.Ever since its conception the monthly has been dedicated to resurrecting and revealing the knowledge and wisdom of ancient Yogis and Rishis.It provides practical ways to attain Spiritual Perfection stage (Poornatva) and remove tensions, worries and problems using Prayers, Sadhnas and Dikshas etc. The magazine by propagating true and authentic knowledge aims at banishing misconceptions and fears regarding the ancient Indian knowledge of the spiritual world. The magazine carries wonderful Sadhanas every month which can be performed in special auspicious moments in that month for gaining solutions to the various problem of human life. Powerful Mantra practices based on the Vedic knowledge are revealed which could help the common man to overcome tensions, diseases, adversities, poverty and enemies. Thousands of readers have been initiated into the field of Sadhanas through this powerful medium. The magazine also carries the divine experiences of Sadhaks and disciples who have tried Sadhanas and benefited through them. Besides it gives valuable information related forthcoming Sadhanas camps and the monthly astrological forecast. In the new millennium the magazine aims at providing fast and quick solutions to all problems of modern human life. Please visit our website www.siddhashram.org for further info. Thanks for your kind patience. Jai Gurudev , "C Kumar" <ckumar99> wrote: > Jai Gurudev > > Dear Shri Arvindji > I do agree with your idea of spreading the good message all around. > But I have some reservations on this. The way you have suggested is > very effective and we can increase the r list in a very fast > manner. But that boom will not be permanent. We need devotees and > true sadhaks not fly by night peoples. I think we should do some more > planning and try to popular our magazine in a stablize manner. As a > first step, I think we can use the e-mail as a medium. For this we > may prepare a good letter/e-mail describing the features of MTYM and > other spritual benefits attached, in a good manner. AFter this, we > can request our memebers to forward that e-mail from their e- > mail account to atleast 5-10 persons and sending a copy to a common e- > mail account that we can delete later. By this method alone, we can > cover around 500 persons in one go. AFter this, we may gradually > shift our focus to any other method. > > But before making this publicly open, just give a thought to the > response also. Because I think people may not take it wrongly. > > Jai Gurudev > Charanjit > , arvind_sharma@b... wrote: > > Dear Guru brothers & sisters, > > Jai Gurudev. > > > > I am trying to put together a list of tasks/avenues for publicising > > and increasing the membership of the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan > > magazine. > > The basic idea behind this is to spread and propagate revered > > Gurudev's message to more and more people, so that they too, obtain > > benefit from this. > > This is the era of advertising and publicity, and we , as disciples > & > > sadhaks , have to join together and utilise the marketing mediums > to > > spread the message. People tend to get attracted only to sweet, > > sugary advertisements. > > Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased in > > India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks & > > astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat > literature, > > and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - Tantra, > > Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , television and > > internet. Many people have started to get misled by this, and > these > > copycats will not be able to satisy them. > > There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start > blaming > > and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science itself; > instead > > of the copycat-gurus. > > > > We have a duty to propagate and spread the light of the true > > knowledge. To do this, we will need to market the Mantra Tantra > > Yantra Vigyan magazine through various mediums. I have jotted > > together a basic list of proposals. Please think, and contribute > your > > ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should implement these ideas in > our > > local areas to introduce more people. Knowledge increases by > > spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak, it is our main duty to > > increase the magazine membership. > > > > a. Putting an advertisement in local newspaper about Magazine , > > Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly for a single person, however 3- 4 > > persons can join together and do this) > > b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for sadhana camps etc. (can, > > and sud be done while organising a sadhana camp) > > c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan > > magazine in public areas and other high-visibility-spots (like > buses, > > trains etc.) (cud be costly & timeconsuming. However, the lifetime > & > > visibility of ad is pretty large and effective. 3-4 persons can > join > > together) > > d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan in local cable > tv > > (highly effective, and reaches many houses. ) > > e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in local temple on every > > Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day every month. (Has curiosity > > factor for regular temple visitors, and they might participate) > > f. Talk to local public libraries, and put in 2-3 copies of > magazine > > (both english & hindi) in the library. (effective, however library > > personnel sud take care of magazine, and keep it in library/issue > for > > short-time .) > > g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow students and people in > your > > friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev & Mantra Tantra Yantra > > Vigyan. Encourage them to become member. Don't be shy (!) in > telling > > people about this. > > h. Talk to your local book sellers and get them to stock the > > magazine. They, anyway get a good commission on the Magazine sale. > > i. Publicise on internet. > > j. Devote some time every month (eg. every Thursday) towards this > > effort. > > k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may keep a copy of > magazine > > in your waiting room, so that people can browse thru it. However, > > refrain from giving it free to anyone, as people don't recognise > the > > value of anything that they get free. > > > > I have created a folder called "mtyv membership" on the > > group. This message is stored on this folder as file > called "initial > > proposal". You can go there by clicking on files..... > > You may add your comments as a separate file within this folder > > itself, or u may send email replies. > > > > It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only Sadhana > & > > spirituality related message traffic on the group. In recent days, > we > > have seen at least two "" requests, which is very bad > > news. Probably these people wanted to see only Sadhana related > > messages. > > > > Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message. > > Awaiting your comments, Please keep the ideas flowing. Afterwords > we > > can put it on the "brinkster website". > > Jai Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Jai Gurudev. Dear Arvind Sharma, I fully endorse your views about the attitude of people that only if they have trouble, they come to perform Sadhana and once their problem is solved, they dont want to turn back. This is the case with every one who does not understand Poojya Gurudev and His interest in the welfare of his Sishyas. A true Sishya will go on trying his best to spread the knowledge he derived from the Poojya Gurudev for the welfare of the common man. One more point (believe it or not)I want to stress is that anybody who is having purva janma link (link from previous birth)will automatically be drawn into this net of Gurubandhu and definitely he/she has to come to this. You had also mentioned about large number of persons becoming members in other Groups and only 73 in this group. Our group may be small to-day but it is bound to grow like a Banyan tree with showering of blessings of Poojya Gurudev. Regarding your disappointment that two have already opted out of this, I wish to mention that only those who are blessed by Poojya Gurudev will continue for ever and others will come and go and this activity will continue as long as selfishness exists in human mind. We need not bother about this or get disillusioned. So long as we are on the correct path and we are in the noble path of spreading the message of Poojya Gurudev, nothing will stop us from proper growth and we will definitely have the full blessings of Poojya Gurudev. Poojya Gurudev used say that any work well begun is half done. You have started in right earnest and that is a good sign for proper development. Nothing will deter us. Go ahead. Gurudev is with us always. Jai Gurudev G Sankaran --- arvind_sharma wrote: <HR> <html><body> <tt> Jai Gurudev,<BR> Thanks for your comments.<BR> I feel that most of the people don't care much about God while the <BR> going is good (Of course there are many exceptions to this). If one <BR> has a stable job, a good family life, healthy & wealthy life, one <BR> tends to stay within this "maya" (delusion), and doesn't care. One <BR> turns to God only in case of disasters eg. problem in job, diseases, <BR> enemities, family problems etc. etc. <BR> Of course, there are some people who aren't satisfied by material <BR> life, and aspire for spiritual awareness, sense of fulfilment, <BR> meditation etc. They are the constant and pure seekers of Divine <BR> knowledge.<BR> Now, if one performs Sadhanas, then one should not face these <BR> problems. Or, rather, one can solve these problems by performing <BR> Sadhanas. <BR> Our ancient sages knew about this, and they developed quick-acting <BR> sadhanas to aid the common man. This knowledge is a gift to us from <BR> our ancestors and poojya Gurudev; and we should forward this <BR> knowledge to others , so that they benefit. Sadhanas exist for <BR> "parhit" (to help the needy, the diseased, the poor, to elevate the <BR> downtrodden in society etc.). It is our duty to spread this message <BR> to them.<BR> Mostly, one comes to Sadhana_world with lots of doubts and <BR> apprehensions. However, as (s)he starts getting success, the <BR> confidence, faith and devotion starts developing. Some people stay on <BR> this path, and achieve more success. Others forget about Sadhanas and <BR> go back into "maya" (delusion) once their problems are solved. <BR> I will not worry about "fly-by-night" people, because, they won't get <BR> anything here. Of course, if they wish to resolve their problems thru <BR> this, then they are welcome to join. Our job is just to become a <BR> medium to spread this message to every human on this planet, if I may <BR> say so. Let everyone be aware that such "spiritual sciences" exist, <BR> like everyone knows about "pepsi cola" on this planet!! Revered <BR> Gurudev will take care of the rest. It really pains me to see only <BR> 73 members on this list. just 73. Only 73 people on internet are <BR> aware about us and our message!! And two of them have sent mails to <BR> . It is really shameful. Everyone knows about & <BR> altavista. Even junk groups have thousands of members. Why don't they <BR> know about us? <BR> Everyone is familiar with "asharam bapuji" or "brahma-kumari" or <BR> osho/rajneesh" and other self-styled acharyas, who just give some <BR> discourses from xyz book. I am not criticising them, I am merely <BR> pointing out that we have a real, practical, authentic knowledge to <BR> share with rest of the world. We have something which is million <BR> times more powerful and effective than pure bhakti , basic-meditation <BR> or singing of hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful legacy, and we <BR> represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown? Staying unknown will <BR> extinguish the little flame of knowledge that our Gurudev lighted. <BR> Let the word spread to the masses, let everyone be aware about it. I <BR> know that most of the people will come only to expect quick miracles, <BR> but let them come. <BR> <BR> Your idea about forwarding to email addresses sounds attractive, <BR> However, it has to be done very carefully to avoid getting negative <BR> publicity, or becoming treated as a trash/junk mail. <BR> <BR> We had discussed about receiving junk/angry flames or trash responses <BR> on the website before. We had some concerns about this group becoming <BR> a trash-pot. However, I guess that with good moderating policy&effort <BR> to delete all trash responses, we might solve this issue. Dogs will <BR> bark only if an Elephant moves across the road. But the elephant has <BR> to get up & walk before dogs start barking! I think that we are <BR> big/mature enough to handle such flames.<BR> <BR> I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by "pirating" stuff from <BR> the website. I am attaching it again here. Any comments on <BR> improving/changing it? : <BR> Hullo, we invite you to the International Siddhashram Sadhak Parivar <BR> discussion list at <BR> This is a meeting space for friendly discussion and exchange of <BR> ideas on Spiritual & Material Growth, Sadhanas, Mantras, Tantra, <BR> Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Astrology, Hypnotism, Paranormal, <BR> Occult, Alchemy and other similar interests.<BR> Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan is a popular monthly magazine about <BR> ancient Indian Sciences. Started in 1981 by Revered Gurudev Dr. <BR> Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji, it provides detailed, authentic and <BR> practical information on Mantras, Tantric Procedures, Yantras, <BR> Astrology, Sadhnas, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Hypnotism, <BR> Numerology, Palmistry, Alchemy, Spiritualism ,Occult sciences etc. <BR> and aims to remove the misconceptions and superstitions associated <BR> with ancient Hindu rituals and practices.Ever since its conception <BR> the monthly has been dedicated to resurrecting and revealing the <BR> knowledge and wisdom of ancient Yogis and Rishis.It provides <BR> practical ways to attain Spiritual Perfection stage (Poornatva) and <BR> remove tensions, worries and problems using Prayers, Sadhnas and <BR> Dikshas etc. <BR> The magazine by propagating true and authentic knowledge aims at <BR> banishing misconceptions and fears regarding the ancient Indian <BR> knowledge of the spiritual world. The magazine carries wonderful <BR> Sadhanas every month which can be performed in special auspicious <BR> moments in that month for gaining solutions to the various problem of <BR> human life. Powerful Mantra practices based on the Vedic knowledge <BR> are revealed which could help the common man to overcome tensions, <BR> diseases, adversities, poverty and enemies. Thousands of readers have <BR> been initiated into the field of Sadhanas through this powerful <BR> medium. The magazine also carries the divine experiences of Sadhaks <BR> and disciples who have tried Sadhanas and benefited through them. <BR> Besides it gives valuable information related forthcoming Sadhanas <BR> camps and the monthly astrological forecast. In the new millennium <BR> the magazine aims at providing fast and quick solutions to all <BR> problems of modern human life. <BR> Please visit our website www.siddhashram.org for further info.<BR> Thanks for your kind patience.<BR> <BR> Jai Gurudev<BR> , "C Kumar" <ckumar99> wrote:<BR> > Jai Gurudev<BR> > <BR> > Dear Shri Arvindji<BR> > I do agree with your idea of spreading the good message all around. <BR> > But I have some reservations on this. The way you have suggested is <BR> > very effective and we can increase the r list in a very <BR> fast <BR> > manner. But that boom will not be permanent. We need devotees and <BR> > true sadhaks not fly by night peoples. I think we should do some <BR> more <BR> > planning and try to popular our magazine in a stablize manner. As <BR> a <BR> > first step, I think we can use the e-mail as a medium. For this we <BR> > may prepare a good letter/e-mail describing the features of MTYM <BR> and <BR> > other spritual benefits attached, in a good manner. AFter this, we <BR> > can request our memebers to forward that e-mail from their <BR> e-<BR> > mail account to atleast 5-10 persons and sending a copy to a common <BR> e-<BR> > mail account that we can delete later. By this method alone, we <BR> can <BR> > cover around 500 persons in one go. AFter this, we may gradually <BR> > shift our focus to any other method. <BR> > <BR> > But before making this publicly open, just give a thought to the <BR> > response also. Because I think people may not take it wrongly.<BR> > <BR> > Jai Gurudev<BR> > Charanjit<BR> > , arvind_sharma@b... wrote:<BR> > > Dear Guru brothers & sisters,<BR> > > Jai Gurudev.<BR> > > <BR> > > I am trying to put together a list of tasks/avenues for <BR> publicising <BR> > > and increasing the membership of the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan <BR> > > magazine.<BR> > > The basic idea behind this is to spread and propagate revered <BR> > > Gurudev's message to more and more people, so that they too, <BR> obtain <BR> > > benefit from this.<BR> > > This is the era of advertising and publicity, and we , as <BR> disciples <BR> > & <BR> > > sadhaks , have to join together and utilise the marketing mediums <BR> > to <BR> > > spread the message. People tend to get attracted only to sweet, <BR> > > sugary advertisements. <BR> > > Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased <BR> in <BR> > > India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks & <BR> > > astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat <BR> > literature, <BR> > > and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - Tantra, <BR> > > Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , television and <BR> > > internet. Many people have started to get misled by this, and <BR> > these <BR> > > copycats will not be able to satisy them.<BR> > > There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start <BR> > blaming <BR> > > and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science itself; <BR> > instead <BR> > > of the copycat-gurus.<BR> > > <BR> > > We have a duty to propagate and spread the light of the true <BR> > > knowledge. To do this, we will need to market the Mantra Tantra <BR> > > Yantra Vigyan magazine through various mediums. I have jotted <BR> > > together a basic list of proposals. Please think, and contribute <BR> > your <BR> > > ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should implement these ideas in <BR> > our <BR> > > local areas to introduce more people. Knowledge increases by <BR> > > spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak, it is our main duty to <BR> > > increase the magazine membership.<BR> > > <BR> > > a. Putting an advertisement in local newspaper about Magazine , <BR> > > Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly for a single person, however 3-<BR> 4 <BR> > > persons can join together and do this)<BR> > > b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for sadhana camps etc. <BR> (can, <BR> > > and sud be done while organising a sadhana camp)<BR> > > c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan <BR> > > magazine in public areas and other high-visibility-spots (like <BR> > buses, <BR> > > trains etc.) (cud be costly & timeconsuming. However, the <BR> lifetime <BR> > & <BR> > > visibility of ad is pretty large and effective. 3-4 persons can <BR> > join <BR> > > together)<BR> > > d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan in local cable <BR> > tv <BR> > > (highly effective, and reaches many houses. )<BR> > > e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in local temple on every <BR> > > Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day every month. (Has curiosity <BR> > > factor for regular temple visitors, and they might participate)<BR> > > f. Talk to local public libraries, and put in 2-3 copies of <BR> > magazine <BR> > > (both english & hindi) in the library. (effective, however <BR> library <BR> > > personnel sud take care of magazine, and keep it in library/issue <BR> > for <BR> > > short-time .)<BR> > > g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow students and people in <BR> > your <BR> > > friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev & Mantra Tantra Yantra <BR> > > Vigyan. Encourage them to become member. Don't be shy (!) in <BR> > telling <BR> > > people about this. <BR> > > h. Talk to your local book sellers and get them to stock the <BR> > > magazine. They, anyway get a good commission on the Magazine sale.<BR> > > i. Publicise on internet.<BR> > > j. Devote some time every month (eg. every Thursday) towards this <BR> > > effort.<BR> > > k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may keep a copy of <BR> > magazine <BR> > > in your waiting room, so that people can browse thru it. However, <BR> > > refrain from giving it free to anyone, as people don't recognise <BR> > the <BR> > > value of anything that they get free.<BR> > > <BR> > > I have created a folder called "mtyv membership" on the <BR> > > group. This message is stored on this folder as file <BR> > called "initial <BR> > > proposal". You can go there by clicking on files.....<BR> > > You may add your comments as a separate file within this folder <BR> > > itself, or u may send email replies.<BR> > > <BR> > > It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only <BR> Sadhana <BR> > & <BR> > > spirituality related message traffic on the group. In recent <BR> days, <BR> > we <BR> > > have seen at least two "" requests, which is very bad <BR> > > news. Probably these people wanted to see only Sadhana related <BR> > > messages.<BR> > > <BR> > > Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message.<BR> > > Awaiting your comments, Please keep the ideas flowing. Afterwords <BR> > we <BR> > > can put it on the "brinkster website".<BR> > > Jai Gurudev<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size="-1" color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> <td width=470><a href="http://rd./M=201903.1435627.3015748.304267/D=egroupmail/S=1700077\ 360:N/A=662184/?of Service</a>.</tt> </br> </body></html> __________ Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 JAI GURUDEV Dear Arvind, > Let everyone be aware that such "spiritual sciences" exist, > like everyone knows about "pepsi cola" on this planet!! Revered > Gurudev will take care of the rest. Okay! Let's do it. > It really pains me to see only 73 members on this list. just 73. > Only 73 people on internet are aware about us and our message!! > Even junk groups have thousands of members. Size doesn't always matter. As long as we are aware of our duties, we can overcome millions. > We have something which is million times more powerful and > effective than pure bhakti , basic-meditation or singing of > hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful legacy, and we > represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown? We are not well known because our powerful legacy is not immune to misuse. In wrong hands, it could be deadly. > Your idea about forwarding to email addresses sounds attractive, > However, it has to be done very carefully to avoid getting > negative publicity, or becoming treated as a trash/junk mail. I would not advice unsolicited mailing. > I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by "pirating" stuff > from the website. I am attaching it again here. Any comments on > improving/changing it? How would we use this mail without being declared spammers? Ashish Marathe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 arvind_sharma (AT) bigfoot (DOT) com wrote: Jai Gurudev,Thanks for your comments.I feel that most of the people don't care much about God while the going is good (Of course there are many exceptions to this). If one has a stable job, a good family life, healthy & wealthy life, one tends to stay within this "maya" (delusion), and doesn't care. One turns to God only in case of disasters eg. problem in job, diseases, enemities, family problems etc. etc. Of course, there are some people who aren't satisfied by material life, and aspire for spiritual awareness, sense of fulfilment, meditation etc. They are the constant and pure seekers of Divine knowledge.Now, if one performs Sadhanas, then one should not face these problems. Or, rather, one can solve these problems by performing Sadhanas. Our ancient sages knew about this, and they developed quick-acting sadhanas to aid the common man. This knowledge is a gift to us from our ancestors and poojya Gurudev; and we should forward this knowledge to others , so that they benefit. Sadhanas exist for "parhit" (to help the needy, the diseased, the poor, to elevate the downtrodden in society etc.). It is our duty to spread this message to them.Mostly, one comes to Sadhana_world with lots of doubts and apprehensions. However, as (s)he starts getting success, the confidence, faith and devotion starts developing. Some people stay on this path, and achieve more success. Others forget about Sadhanas and go back into "maya" (delusion) once their problems are solved. I will not worry about "fly-by-night" people, because, they won't get anything here. Of course, if they wish to resolve their problems thru this, then they are welcome to join. Our job is just to become a medium to spread this message to every human on this planet, if I may say so. Let everyone be aware that such "spiritual sciences" exist, like everyone knows about "pepsi cola" on this planet!! Revered Gurudev will take care of the rest. It really pains me to see only 73 members on this list. just 73. Only 73 people on internet are aware about us and our message!! And two of them have sent mails to . It is really shameful. Everyone knows about & altavista. Even junk groups have thousands of members. Why don't they know about us? Everyone is familiar with "asharam bapuji" or "brahma-kumari" or osho/rajneesh" and other self-styled acharyas, who just give some discourses from xyz book. I am not criticising them, I am merely pointing out that we have a real, practical, authentic knowledge to share with rest of the world. We have something which is million times more powerful and effective than pure bhakti , basic-meditation or singing of hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful legacy, and we represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown? Staying unknown will extinguish the little flame of knowledge that our Gurudev lighted. Let the word spread to the masses, let everyone be aware about it. I know that most of the people will come only to expect quick miracles, but let them come. Your idea about forwarding to email addresses sounds attractive, However, it has to be done very carefully to avoid getting negative publicity, or becoming treated as a trash/junk mail. We had discussed about receiving junk/angry flames or trash responses on the website before. We had some concerns about this group becoming a trash-pot. However, I guess that with good moderating policy&effort to delete all trash responses, we might solve this issue. Dogs will bark only if an Elephant moves across the road. But the elephant has to get up & walk before dogs start barking! I think that we are big/mature enough to handle such flames.I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by "pirating" stuff from the website. I am attaching it again here. Any comments on improving/changing it? : Hullo, we invite you to the International Siddhashram Sadhak Parivar discussion list at This is a meeting space for friendly discussion and exchange of ideas on Spiritual & Material Growth, Sadhanas, Mantras, Tantra, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Astrology, Hypnotism, Paranormal, Occult, Alchemy and other similar interests.Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan is a popular monthly magazine about ancient Indian Sciences. Started in 1981 by Revered Gurudev Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji, it provides detailed, authentic and practical information on Mantras, Tantric Procedures, Yantras, Astrology, Sadhnas, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Hypnotism, Numerology, Palmistry, Alchemy, Spiritualism ,Occult sciences etc. and aims to remove the misconceptions and superstitions associated with ancient Hindu rituals and practices.Ever since its conception the monthly has been dedicated to resurrecting and revealing the knowledge and wisdom of ancient Yogis and Rishis.It provides practical ways to attain Spiritual Perfection stage (Poornatva) and remove tensions, worries and problems using Prayers, Sadhnas and Dikshas etc. The magazine by propagating true and authentic knowledge aims at banishing misconceptions and fears regarding the ancient Indian knowledge of the spiritual world. The magazine carries wonderful Sadhanas every month which can be performed in special auspicious moments in that month for gaining solutions to the various problem of human life. Powerful Mantra practices based on the Vedic knowledge are revealed which could help the common man to overcome tensions, diseases, adversities, poverty and enemies. Thousands of readers have been initiated into the field of Sadhanas through this powerful medium. The magazine also carries the divine experiences of Sadhaks and disciples who have tried Sadhanas and benefited through them. Besides it gives valuable information related forthcoming Sadhanas camps and the monthly astrological forecast. In the new millennium the magazine aims at providing fast and quick solutions to all problems of modern human life. Please visit our website www.siddhashram.org for further info.Thanks for your kind patience.Jai Gurudev Auctions $2 Million Sweepstakes - Got something to sell? 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Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Dear Guru Bhai Jay Guru Dev There was a coverage on " Remote Viewing " An experimental use of this Sadhana by NASA on the National Geographic Channel.Remote viewing used by NASA to search for missing equipment and people (mostly at war like situation). Experimented through imatures who think that this is gifted by Nature (God) not through solely practice. Very interesting. But not on the right direction. They do not emphasise about that you can achieve it by practice (Sadhna) and no mention of Hindu Researchers (Rishi Munies) who have found that it can be done and scripted how you can get it and practiced and made people practiced. Any way it is worth watching if it is retelecast by the channel. Some mile Stone on Sat Guru Dev's proclamation of Hinduism and Hindu Bigyan (Hindu Science) Pram Pujya Guru Dev ki Jaya Pram Bandaniya Matashri ki Jaya Pram Pujya Guru Trimurti ki Jaya bishnu Global Medicine Pvt. Ltd., 3/555 Harihar Bhavan P. O. Box 5659, Kathmandu, Nepal Fax 977 1 523282, Phone 977 1 528372 - <arvind_sharma <> Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:07 AM Re: Important. Everyone sud contribute! > Jai Gurudev, > Thanks for your comments. > I feel that most of the people don't care much about God while the > going is good (Of course there are many exceptions to this). If one > has a stable job, a good family life, healthy & wealthy life, one > tends to stay within this "maya" (delusion), and doesn't care. One > turns to God only in case of disasters eg. problem in job, diseases, > enemities, family problems etc. etc. > Of course, there are some people who aren't satisfied by material > life, and aspire for spiritual awareness, sense of fulfilment, > meditation etc. They are the constant and pure seekers of Divine > knowledge. > Now, if one performs Sadhanas, then one should not face these > problems. Or, rather, one can solve these problems by performing > Sadhanas. > Our ancient sages knew about this, and they developed quick-acting > sadhanas to aid the common man. This knowledge is a gift to us from > our ancestors and poojya Gurudev; and we should forward this > knowledge to others , so that they benefit. Sadhanas exist for > "parhit" (to help the needy, the diseased, the poor, to elevate the > downtrodden in society etc.). It is our duty to spread this message > to them. > Mostly, one comes to Sadhana_world with lots of doubts and > apprehensions. However, as (s)he starts getting success, the > confidence, faith and devotion starts developing. Some people stay on > this path, and achieve more success. Others forget about Sadhanas and > go back into "maya" (delusion) once their problems are solved. > I will not worry about "fly-by-night" people, because, they won't get > anything here. Of course, if they wish to resolve their problems thru > this, then they are welcome to join. Our job is just to become a > medium to spread this message to every human on this planet, if I may > say so. Let everyone be aware that such "spiritual sciences" exist, > like everyone knows about "pepsi cola" on this planet!! Revered > Gurudev will take care of the rest. It really pains me to see only > 73 members on this list. just 73. Only 73 people on internet are > aware about us and our message!! And two of them have sent mails to > . It is really shameful. Everyone knows about & > altavista. Even junk groups have thousands of members. Why don't they > know about us? > Everyone is familiar with "asharam bapuji" or "brahma-kumari" or > osho/rajneesh" and other self-styled acharyas, who just give some > discourses from xyz book. I am not criticising them, I am merely > pointing out that we have a real, practical, authentic knowledge to > share with rest of the world. We have something which is million > times more powerful and effective than pure bhakti , basic-meditation > or singing of hymns/bhajans. We have a very powerful legacy, and we > represent true knowledge. Why are we unknown? Staying unknown will > extinguish the little flame of knowledge that our Gurudev lighted. > Let the word spread to the masses, let everyone be aware about it. I > know that most of the people will come only to expect quick miracles, > but let them come. > > Your idea about forwarding to email addresses sounds attractive, > However, it has to be done very carefully to avoid getting negative > publicity, or becoming treated as a trash/junk mail. > > We had discussed about receiving junk/angry flames or trash responses > on the website before. We had some concerns about this group becoming > a trash-pot. However, I guess that with good moderating policy&effort > to delete all trash responses, we might solve this issue. Dogs will > bark only if an Elephant moves across the road. But the elephant has > to get up & walk before dogs start barking! I think that we are > big/mature enough to handle such flames. > > I had prepared a sample email some time ago, by "pirating" stuff from > the website. I am attaching it again here. Any comments on > improving/changing it? : > Hullo, we invite you to the International Siddhashram Sadhak Parivar > discussion list at > This is a meeting space for friendly discussion and exchange of > ideas on Spiritual & Material Growth, Sadhanas, Mantras, Tantra, > Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Astrology, Hypnotism, Paranormal, > Occult, Alchemy and other similar interests. > Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan is a popular monthly magazine about > ancient Indian Sciences. Started in 1981 by Revered Gurudev Dr. > Narayan Dutt Shrimaliji, it provides detailed, authentic and > practical information on Mantras, Tantric Procedures, Yantras, > Astrology, Sadhnas, Yoga, Ayurveda, Meditation, Hypnotism, > Numerology, Palmistry, Alchemy, Spiritualism ,Occult sciences etc. > and aims to remove the misconceptions and superstitions associated > with ancient Hindu rituals and practices.Ever since its conception > the monthly has been dedicated to resurrecting and revealing the > knowledge and wisdom of ancient Yogis and Rishis.It provides > practical ways to attain Spiritual Perfection stage (Poornatva) and > remove tensions, worries and problems using Prayers, Sadhnas and > Dikshas etc. > The magazine by propagating true and authentic knowledge aims at > banishing misconceptions and fears regarding the ancient Indian > knowledge of the spiritual world. The magazine carries wonderful > Sadhanas every month which can be performed in special auspicious > moments in that month for gaining solutions to the various problem of > human life. Powerful Mantra practices based on the Vedic knowledge > are revealed which could help the common man to overcome tensions, > diseases, adversities, poverty and enemies. Thousands of readers have > been initiated into the field of Sadhanas through this powerful > medium. The magazine also carries the divine experiences of Sadhaks > and disciples who have tried Sadhanas and benefited through them. > Besides it gives valuable information related forthcoming Sadhanas > camps and the monthly astrological forecast. In the new millennium > the magazine aims at providing fast and quick solutions to all > problems of modern human life. > Please visit our website www.siddhashram.org for further info. > Thanks for your kind patience. > > Jai Gurudev > , "C Kumar" <ckumar99> wrote: > > Jai Gurudev > > > > Dear Shri Arvindji > > I do agree with your idea of spreading the good message all around. > > But I have some reservations on this. The way you have suggested is > > very effective and we can increase the r list in a very > fast > > manner. But that boom will not be permanent. We need devotees and > > true sadhaks not fly by night peoples. I think we should do some > more > > planning and try to popular our magazine in a stablize manner. As > a > > first step, I think we can use the e-mail as a medium. For this we > > may prepare a good letter/e-mail describing the features of MTYM > and > > other spritual benefits attached, in a good manner. AFter this, we > > can request our memebers to forward that e-mail from their > e- > > mail account to atleast 5-10 persons and sending a copy to a common > e- > > mail account that we can delete later. By this method alone, we > can > > cover around 500 persons in one go. AFter this, we may gradually > > shift our focus to any other method. > > > > But before making this publicly open, just give a thought to the > > response also. Because I think people may not take it wrongly. > > > > Jai Gurudev > > Charanjit > > , arvind_sharma@b... wrote: > > > Dear Guru brothers & sisters, > > > Jai Gurudev. > > > > > > I am trying to put together a list of tasks/avenues for > publicising > > > and increasing the membership of the Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan > > > magazine. > > > The basic idea behind this is to spread and propagate revered > > > Gurudev's message to more and more people, so that they too, > obtain > > > benefit from this. > > > This is the era of advertising and publicity, and we , as > disciples > > & > > > sadhaks , have to join together and utilise the marketing mediums > > to > > > spread the message. People tend to get attracted only to sweet, > > > sugary advertisements. > > > Awareness and enthusiasm about spiritual sciences has increased > in > > > India & abroad in recent years. Many self-styled tantriks & > > > astrologers-of-world-fame have started producing copycat > > literature, > > > and a lot of spurious and fraud material on Mantra - Tantra, > > > Astrology etc. has started appearing in print , television and > > > internet. Many people have started to get misled by this, and > > these > > > copycats will not be able to satisy them. > > > There is a STRONG danger that these new-initiates will start > > blaming > > > and doubting the efficacy of the knowledge & science itself; > > instead > > > of the copycat-gurus. > > > > > > We have a duty to propagate and spread the light of the true > > > knowledge. To do this, we will need to market the Mantra Tantra > > > Yantra Vigyan magazine through various mediums. I have jotted > > > together a basic list of proposals. Please think, and contribute > > your > > > ideas to publicise. Moroever, we should implement these ideas in > > our > > > local areas to introduce more people. Knowledge increases by > > > spreading, and as a disciple & sadhak, it is our main duty to > > > increase the magazine membership. > > > > > > a. Putting an advertisement in local newspaper about Magazine , > > > Sadhana Camp etc. (cud be costly for a single person, however 3- > 4 > > > persons can join together and do this) > > > b. Printing and distributing pamphlets for sadhana camps etc. > (can, > > > and sud be done while organising a sadhana camp) > > > c. Printing and putting posters about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan > > > magazine in public areas and other high-visibility-spots (like > > buses, > > > trains etc.) (cud be costly & timeconsuming. However, the > lifetime > > & > > > visibility of ad is pretty large and effective. 3-4 persons can > > join > > > together) > > > d. Placing an ad about Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan in local cable > > tv > > > (highly effective, and reaches many houses. ) > > > e. Organising Guru Sadhana and pooja in local temple on every > > > Thursday and/or 3rd. 8th & 21st day every month. (Has curiosity > > > factor for regular temple visitors, and they might participate) > > > f. Talk to local public libraries, and put in 2-3 copies of > > magazine > > > (both english & hindi) in the library. (effective, however > library > > > personnel sud take care of magazine, and keep it in library/issue > > for > > > short-time .) > > > g. Introduce your work colleagues/fellow students and people in > > your > > > friend circle/relatives to revered Gurudev & Mantra Tantra Yantra > > > Vigyan. Encourage them to become member. Don't be shy (!) in > > telling > > > people about this. > > > h. Talk to your local book sellers and get them to stock the > > > magazine. They, anyway get a good commission on the Magazine sale. > > > i. Publicise on internet. > > > j. Devote some time every month (eg. every Thursday) towards this > > > effort. > > > k. If you are a doctor/lawyer, then you may keep a copy of > > magazine > > > in your waiting room, so that people can browse thru it. However, > > > refrain from giving it free to anyone, as people don't recognise > > the > > > value of anything that they get free. > > > > > > I have created a folder called "mtyv membership" on the > > > group. This message is stored on this folder as file > > called "initial > > > proposal". You can go there by clicking on files..... > > > You may add your comments as a separate file within this folder > > > itself, or u may send email replies. > > > > > > It looks like that a lot of group members want to see only > Sadhana > > & > > > spirituality related message traffic on the group. In recent > days, > > we > > > have seen at least two "" requests, which is very bad > > > news. Probably these people wanted to see only Sadhana related > > > messages. > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your time and patience in reading this message. > > > Awaiting your comments, Please keep the ideas flowing. Afterwords > > we > > > can put it on the "brinkster website". > > > Jai Gurudev > > > Jay Gurudev > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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