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Jai Gurudev,

This is again about the Hindi website.

I am NOT entirely against the cocept of developing a hindi website

which contains some articles, which introduces the "new persons" to

our Gurudev & Siddhashram, and prompt the "new persons" to go and buy

magazine, books etc.

I also agree that having a hindi site will increase the reach to

those people who want to look at hindi websites and are more

comfortable with reading Hindi.

However, and HOWEVER, IT IS HIGLY IMPERATIVE THAT IN THIS ENTU AND

ZEAL TO DO GURU-SEWA, WE DON'T COMMIT BIG MISTAKES.

 

For example, putting up some reviews about the books is fine. However

typing or scanning up the entire CONTENT FROM BOOKS/MAGAZINES is NOT

CORRECT. It is against copy right laws. Secondly, if u place the

entire books & magazine online (by typing/scanning ), won't it be

equivalent to piracy! We should NOT FORGET that a major portion of

revenue generated from books & magazine goes towards charitable

causes in running hospitals, schools etc. Do we want to STOP this

good work? Moroever, the price of magazine and books is kept

intentionally low. The price of 1 monthly issue of magazine is far

less than prce of 1 liter of petrol, or 1 liter of milk.

Thinking in economic sense, only high volumes can justify such a low

price.

Do we want to destroy this high volume.

u know how people are like. They want everything for free. If they

get everything on web, why will they buy magazine? And, if people

dont buy magazine, then how will we propagate Gurudev's message and

info to the vast majority of people who still are unblissfully

unaware of this?

 

Of course, I myself know of many, many incidents in Gurudham, when

Gurudev granted Diksha without taking money in deserving cases.

Concept of Money is there only so that people realise its worth. If

u pay some hundred ruppees to get something, then u will be sincere

towards it, and will chant mantras regularly, because u

have "invested" money in it.

 

Don't get me wrong. I am NOT against putting up introductory stuff,

reviews about books etc. , personal experiences, info on astrology,

palmistry or graphology etc. in hindi. I am all for putting such

things.

BUT I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST SCANNING ENTIRE BOOK OR MAGAZINE ARTICLES

JUST TO PUT ON WEBSITE. it is simply NOT done.

 

The Diksha article written on website looks more like a repetition of

the "Diksha Sanskar" book. That is NOT right. Use some extracts from

books/magazine ONLY after taking Gurudev's permission and after

putting credit/source info along with the extract. BUT ARTICLE SUD BE

ORIGINAL.

We used to face this problem while organising shivirs in Delhi, when

we used to have to have pamphlets. We always took Gurudev's

permission to take some extracts from magazine (say about

Samratabhishek Diksha), before making a pamphlet. And we always used

to show it to Him and get His approval & blessings before starting to

distribute it.

Gurudev always gave us permission to use extracts. But this does not

mean that it is a "carte-blance" permission . U need to take

permission before any task. That is Shishya bhawana, that is

shishyatatva. Disciple can think of thousands of ideas, but before

starting to implement it, He sud always take Gurudev's advice and

permission.

 

People who live far off from Gurudham, say in Mumbai/Nagpur/Puri

etc., always send a copy of pamphlets and full shivir plan to Gurudev

before starting any work for shivir. Bishnuji of Nepal wud be aware

of this, and can confirm it.

 

IT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND UNETHICAL AND AGAINST DISCIPLEHOOD TO

PIRATE MATERIAL FROM BOOK & MAGAZINE AND JUST PUT IT ON A WEBSITE.

GURUDHAM HAS A WEBSITE OF ITS OWN, WHICH IS ITS OFFICIAL SITE. THEY

CAN PUT IT ON OFFICIAL SITE, IF THEY WANT, WHICH IS LEGAL. If they

want, they can put extracts of magazine/books etc.

IF U WANT A HINDI SECTION ON THAT, U SUD RECOMMENTDIT TO GURUDHAM,

and ask them to put up extracts of books etc.

 

IT IS VERY TEMPTING TO JUST START A SCANNER, AND SCAN THE BOOK OR

MAGAZINE. ON ANY GOOD SCANNER AND PC, THIS WILL TAKE ONLY 1-2 HOURS

TO SCAN COMPLETE MAGAZINE. BUT IS IT RIGHT THING TO DO? ISNT IT

EQUIVALENT TO STEALING FROM MAGAZINE??

 

DO GURUDEV'S DISCIPLES WANT TO BE KNOWN AS STEALERS OR PIRATES OF

MATERIAL?

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW IF PUSTAK MAHAL OR ANY OTHER PUBLISHING

HOUSE STARTS LEGAL PROCEEDINGS AGAINST GURUDHAM FOR COPYRIGHT

VIOLATION? WILL IT BE A GOOD THING?

 

Gurudev has written more than five hundred books. Most of them have

been published by independent publishing houses. They retain the

copyright even if the books are out of stock.

The S-Series books from Gurudham started getting published only some

years before.

Now, some of the S-series books include material in same area , which

already has been published by independent publishers. So, obviously ,

Gurudev had to very carefully write new material so that initial

copyright doesnt get violated. An example is the "Secrets of

Hypnotism" published by S-Series and "Practical Hypnotism" published

by Pustak Mahal. Can we be so careful? I doubt it. Moroever, for some

books, Pustak mahal etc. have given rights only to Gurudham to take

extracts and publish in S-Series. SCANNING AND PUTTING ON WEBSITE IS

VIOLATION OF THAT COPYRIGHT.

 

So, sudnt we write original articles for brinkster site. Let Gurudham

worry about putting extracts from magazine and books , and let it be

published only on their official website www.siddhashram.org

 

Copyright violation is a major issue, and don't forget the web medium

is an international medium. If somone starts leading proceedings in ,

say USA, it will be tried in USA court only, and legal costs

themselves will run into Thousands and Thousands of dollars.

Please BE VERY CAREFUL. IT IS NOT CHILD'S PLAY.

Thousands of dot-coms have gone bust from trademark & patent court

rulings. The culture in West is a blame culture, and they always

demand monetary compensation running into millions of dollars.

PLEASE DO NOT CREATE PROBLEMS, OR BE INSTRUMENTAL IN CREATING ONE.

PLEASE THINK CAREFULLY and RESPONSIBLY.

 

As it is, I am a bit wary of the brinkster stire, because it is

something which doesnt have full blessings or permission of Gurudev.

At least not yet. Just taking permission from Shrivastav uncle is NOT

enough. We need to take permission from Gurudev. If someone sitting

in , say Puri or Nepal can show all their documents and prachaar

material and shivir plan to Gurudev and obtain permission, then why

cant we at least take permission for this.

I spoke to Gurudham to take permission. But since I am not the

controller of web content (Ashishji is),at least not yet, I am NOT

in a position to give any guarantee of content to Gurudev.

 

Forgive me if it is a long mail, but this issue is a very serious

issue.

Ashishji, please take down this article about Diksha. I commend the

sincerity of person who spent so much effort in writing it. But this

article needs to be changed, and made into somethig more original.

Plus u need to mention and give credits to the books, from which u

have lifted the material.

 

As Gurudev has said in many magazines - Perform Sewa, but peform only

that Sewa which is required.

 

There is no point in offering sweets and "burfi" to Gurudev if He has

diabetes.

Don't just blindly start doing wic feels right. Exercise some

judgement.

 

Sewa is not easy. Sewadharma Ati Kathoredharma.

One needs to be very careful & responsible.

 

If u are so inclined to perform Sewa, then why dont u translate hindi

books into English and submit it to Gurudev. That will be a propoer

Sewa. And many non-Hindi Sadhaks in India and abroad will benfit from

that. For example, non-hindi speakers today cant taste the divine

elixier of Guru-Gita or Nikhil Stavan today.

Or write some original articles and submit it to Gurudham for

publishing in magazine.

I am TOTALLY AGAINST SCANNING/TYPING OF BOOK/MAGAZINE CONTENT WITHOUT

GURUDEV'S PERMISSION. And I doubt if it is a right thing to ask

Gurudev's permission to scan book and put it on website. Isnt it

similar to asking Gurudev for His clothes or pen so that we can use

it! Oh God, it is blasphemy!

 

We sud be working towards spreading Gurudev's message. We sud work

towards making more members of Magazine. We SUDNT DO ANYTHING WHICH

IS AGAINST THIS.

 

Ashishji, please take down this Diksha article. Let us modify it and

review it.

Let us NOT expose Gurudham against possible IPR/Copyright

infringement on the eve of Guru Poornnima !

 

 

Jai Gurudev

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Jai Gurudev

Dear brothers,

 

I m fully agree with Arvindji that we should not copy like this and

should not scan any material which can cause problems. I think at

this moment we should only concentrate for anything new which is not

details/procedure of any sadhna or any article already published in

the MTYV.

 

But I m against closing down the hindi site. Let it run but with

originality and with Guruji's blessings.

 

We may request Guruji to permit us to atleast publish the Guruji

Pravachan on Hindi Site. And we may also right our own experience or

we may even think of translating the articles of Sadhak site in Hindi.

 

Jai Gurudev

Charanjit

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, "C Kumar" <ckumar99> wrote:

> Jai Gurudev

> Dear brothers,

>

> I m fully agree with Arvindji that we should not copy like this and

> should not scan any material which can cause problems. I think at

> this moment we should only concentrate for anything new which is

not

> details/procedure of any sadhna or any article already published in

> the MTYV.

>

> But I m against closing down the hindi site. Let it run but with

> originality and with Guruji's blessings.

>

> We may request Guruji to permit us to atleast publish the Guruji

> Pravachan on Hindi Site. And we may also right our own experience

or

> we may even think of translating the articles of Sadhak site in

Hindi.

>

> Jai Gurudev

> Charanjit

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