Guest guest Posted August 11, 2001 Report Share Posted August 11, 2001 Jai Gurudev everyone, I am overwhelmed with this tremendous shower of love and affection by everyone. I dont know if I am suitable for so much love which I am getting thru pujya Gurudev's grace. Birendraji, I remember reading in lots of places that one cannot perform Guru-Sewa without Sadhanas. Disciple/Shishya is a higher stage (like post-graduation) than a Sadhak (like graduation). One cannot become a good shisya without becoming a good sadhak first. It is mentioned in various books/mags etc. that one major quality of a good shishya is that he has interest and proficiency in Sadhanas. Moroever, there are some advantages which i can think of- a. there are always thousands of people criticising one's Gurudev and trying various tantrik prayogs on Gurudev & his disciples. A good sadhak can counter such tantrik prayogs himself, and wont trouble his Gurudev. b. a good sadhak can avert and solve his various problems himself without disturbing his Guru. everyone should generate his own spiritual energy thru sadhanas, and not disturb or always depend upon his Gurudev for small problems/aims. There are many different types of Guru & Gurutatva Sadhanas. Your thoughts are excellent, that if one achieves Guru tatva, then one can achieve everything else. i aint qualified to say so, however, as a brother, i am asking u to do some Guru Sadhanas or at least anusthaan of Guru Mantra. Whenver I meet Shrivastav uncle, he always stresses on every disciple to keep performing some sadhana or the other at all times. Charanjitji, u wrong me. i had prepared the pamphlet contents and had posted the english & hindi versions of the pamphlet on this group long ago. Even Ashishji had put them on the Sadhak website. I am again attaching the pamphlet (English & Hindi) at the bottom of this email. Ashishji, pl. dont call me as a senior Gurubhai. I am not senior to you or anyone else at all. I am at a very junior entry level, and have just joined the kindergarten when everyone else is at least in First-Second or higher class. I am at a very junior, elementary starting level. And i belong to same age-group as yorself. i only call everyone as "ji" as a sign of respect (like the Japanese call everyone as san). My bloodgroup - AB+ univeral recipient!! I was concerned few days ago when the membership total went down in eighties. Thankfully, it has again come back to 91 today. Highest till now is 92. Don't know when will we reach a century! There are some astrology websites wherein one can get one's horoscope generated for free. I will recommend everyone to use them instead of disturbing Anuji as she is very busy with her exams. Or, you cud always contact Jodhpur Gurudham. Just wanted to relate an experience with Pujya Nand Guruji when He was in UK for mini-shivir. I took the liberty of requesting pujya Gurudev to come out to market to do some shopping. pujya Gurudev said - "There is nothing to shop for". I suggested about clothes etc. Pujya Gurudev replied - "I wear only dhoti and kurta. I have enough of them, and they are anyway not available here. I don't wear any other clothes. For winter, I already have a jacket. So, what clothes do I require?". And thus ended my attempt to offer some clothes (vastram samarpayaami). Confined to offering only mouli during puja (vastra samarpan), and no real_cloth in person. Everyone: Pl. tell me if there are any more pending actions on me. Following are some PEARLS excerpted from Dec 97 page 58 of Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan magazine.- A person breathes either through right nostril, or left nostril or both nostrils. Breathing through right nostril is called "Surya Sawar" , through left nostril is called "Chandra Swar", and through both nostrils is called "Sukshumna/samshaan Sawar". A person can change Swar through some specific Yogic Kriyas. During Sukshumna Swar, the energy/capacity of body is at its minimum. One should not do any worldly task during it, and should only concentrate on Praying to God and Sadhanas in this Swar. One should perform Sadhanas of Strong, Powerful & Angry Gods during Surya Sawar, and perform Sadhanas of Peaceful, cool Gods during Chandra Sawar. One should perform only Sadhana of Isht Dev during Sukshumna Swar. One can also correlate body's clock before starting any work. The Swar changes every hour after sunrise. All the 12 months start from Sunrise, and finish in a day. Each month takes 2 hours. Bhadrapad month completes at Sunset. The Rashi-chakra (mesha (aries) etc.) also starts at sunrise. The Kanya rashi (virgo) completes at sunset. Sankranti occurs before start of each Rashi. These Sankranti moments are ideal for Sadhana. Half an hour after 11:25 is considered best for all tasks. Makar Sankranti occirs at night 1:30 am, which is best for all Mantra Sadhanas. Every good muhurat (moment) of wach month occurs daily for some time. If chandra swar runs during cheitra, Jayestha etc. (odd months), then one faces problems during Sadhanas. Similarly surya swar during even months (beisakh, aashaad etc.) is not appropriate for Sadhanas. Chandra swar during sankranti of beisakh, aashad, bhadrapad etc. & Surya swar during sankranti of cheitra, jyestha, shravan etc. is best for Sadhanas. There is relation with days too. A lot of info on appropriate days and moments for sadhanas etc is also given in this article. PAMPHLET info- Here is an extract from an old hindi mag - maybe, we can work up on it, and take it as a starting point. The english translation is - Subscribe to annual edition of Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan magazine, and obtain these twelve wonderful benefits for each of the twelve months - 1. Rare Mantra and Sadhanas 2. Tantra Practices for complete Siddhi and success 3. Authentic, consecrated Yantras and accurate Sadhanas based on them 4. Detailed accounts of mysterious puzzling and inexplicable incidents 5. Sadhanas to eradicate poverty and contemporary Lakshmi Sadhanas 6. Practical Knowledge on Kundalini Activation 7. Easy and straighforward explanations of Yoga and Asanas with pictures 8. Detailed knowledge on Astrology and Clairvoyance 9. Accurate descriptions of rare Ayurvedic medicines and herbs 10. Resolution of various problems and tensions of family life 11. Details on rare Dikshas granted by Reverent Gurudev 12. A free consecrated and sanctified Yantra , within a month of annual subscription The original hindi version in (romanised script) - Aaj Hi Mantra Tantra Yantra Vigyan Patrika Key vaarshik sadasya baniye, aur Varsh key 12 mahino mey yeh 12 laabh utthayiye - 1. Durlabh Mantra evam Sadhanayen 2. Nischit Siddhi Key liye Tantraatmak Prayog 3. Pramanik Yantra aur un par aadhaarit Safal Sadhanaye 4. Rahasya, Romanch sey bhari rochak va manoranjak ghatnaaon ka pramanik vivaran 5. Arthabhav door karney ki vishisht sadhanaye evam Lakshmi Sadhanaon ki navintam prastuti 6. Kundalini Jaagran key ksetra mein praapt ho rahe adhyatan gyaan ki prastuti 7. Yog evam Asana ka sachitra vivaran, saral evam aakarshak dhang sey 8. Jyotish evam bhavishya darshan ka niHshulk vivaran va gyaan 9. Ayurved ki durlabh oshdhiyon kaa praamanik vivaran 10. Grihasth Jeevan mein nitya prati aane vaali samasyaaon ka narikan 11. Pujyaapaad Gurudev dwaara pradaan ki jaaney vaali durlabh dikshaaon ka varnan evam vivaran 12. Pratyek naye vaarshik sadasya ko praapt hota hai - ek maah ke bheetar hi bheetar - apratim uphaar Jai Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2001 Report Share Posted August 12, 2001 my dear arvind, > I am overwhelmed with this tremendous shower of love and affection by > everyone. I dont know if I am suitable for so much love which I am > getting thru pujya Gurudev's grace. > what you sow is what you reap,Give love you will get love in return. > I remember reading in lots of places that one cannot > perform Guru-Sewa without Sadhanas. Disciple/Shishya is a higher > stage (like post-graduation) than a Sadhak (like graduation). One > cannot become a good shisya without becoming a good sadhak first. It > is mentioned in various books/mags etc. that one major quality of a > good shishya is that he has interest and proficiency in Sadhanas. > Moroever, there are some advantages which i can think of- > a. there are always thousands of people criticising one's Gurudev and > trying various tantrik prayogs on Gurudev & his disciples. A good > sadhak can counter such tantrik prayogs himself, and wont trouble his > Gurudev. > b. a good sadhak can avert and solve his various problems himself > without disturbing his Guru. everyone should generate his own > spiritual energy thru sadhanas, and not disturb or always depend upon > his Gurudev for small problems/aims. > There are many different types of Guru & Gurutatva Sadhanas. Your > thoughts are excellent, that if one achieves Guru tatva, then one can > achieve everything else. i aint qualified to say so, however, as a > brother, i am asking u to do some Guru Sadhanas or at least anusthaan > of Guru Mantra. Whenver I meet Shrivastav uncle, he always stresses > on every disciple to keep performing some sadhana or the other at > all times> i am pleased by your concern for me. i see your point, i understand that sadhak to sishya pattern if described by Gurudev then its true. In general we go to Gurudev to seek solutions for our day to day irritating problems and once they start getting solved due to Gurudevs grace and in that process of our interaction with Gurudev we slowly start understanding him and develop respect for him and we try to implement his teachings in our day to day life and which gradually transforms out respect for him into love and thus in us Gurudev causes a birth of sishya. so the path from sadhak to sishya is seen above, i never disputed that but in my case i was telling my own limitation i was not telling that it was an ideal case and that peopel should emulate it... every one has their own natural preferences.... for ex i didnt go to Gurudev for any material problems, i liked his ideolgies , his character, his knowledge, i read extensively about him in various book and at every step fell for him and one day i decided i couldnt stop my self and just went and met him. for me Gurudev is more personal, iam really not bothered if he dosent solve my problems, or creates new problems for me. i love him just for his sake.... well let me come to sadhak sishya mode well if i have to do sadhana there are no SADHNAS for me i have only one SADHNA thats filling myself with his essence,dreams and working for it. Even as a sishya thats my aim , so you can see sadhak and sishya are merging into one thing, one aim. and besides we are linked to Gurudev for past few lives so sadhak face should have gone almost by now and we should have entered sishya face ,if we try to reason and argue things may go on, so my dear all lets not sit and confuse between sadhak and sishya thing instead try to do what all we can to make Gurudev's dream. i want you all people to be real sadhaks and sishyas and both in one as Bade Gurudev is.... so lets not forget in trying to be sishyas thinking that we are just sadhaks and not even and sadhaks and so.... Besides i appreciate that you too see Gurudev in a personal sense when you say that we will not be distrurbing Gurudev when we do sadhanas,i agree with you 100% , Gurudev for me is also the infinite without limitations.He is the master of universes. so its all how we see..... i dont want to argue.... There is no one way .JUST HAVE HEART FOR GURUDEV REST WILL FALL IN PLACE. > Ashishji, pl. dont call me as a senior Gurubhai. I am not senior to > you or anyone else at all. I am at a very junior entry level, and > have just joined the kindergarten when everyone else is at least in > First-Second or higher class. I am at a very junior, elementary > starting level. And i belong to same age-group as yorself. i only > call everyone as "ji" as a sign of respect (like the Japanese call > everyone as san). > ashish call him Jr Gurubhai, thanks for his respect in terms of JI. > My bloodgroup - AB+ univeral recipient!! looks like i too should join the gang, other wise i may be boycotted. my blood group is O+ CHARANJIT get your blood group checked its a worthwhile thing and has lot of utility it dosent take much time/money just a needle prick in your finger and 5-10m for the result and few bcuks. get it checked in some diagnostic lab and let us know ur blood group otherwise you will be boycotted mind it. > > I was concerned few days ago when the membership total went down in > eighties. Thankfully, it has again come back to 91 today. Highest > till now is 92. Don't know when will we reach a century! > pretty soon, ashish i knew that he was always counting > There are some astrology websites wherein one can get one's horoscope > generated for free. I will recommend everyone to use them instead of > disturbing Anuji as she is very busy with her exams. Or, you cud > always contact Jodhpur Gurudham. > well as i know of anu 's position i will not disturb her and wish Good luck for her exams on behalf of the members.let us know once ur are done with exams so that we can disturb you a lot. > Just wanted to relate an experience with Pujya Nand Guruji when He > was in UK for mini-shivir. I took the liberty of requesting pujya > Gurudev to come out to market to do some shopping. pujya Gurudev > said - "There is nothing to shop for". I suggested about clothes etc. > Pujya Gurudev replied - "I wear only dhoti and kurta. I have enough > of them, and they are anyway not available here. I don't wear any > other clothes. For winter, I already have a jacket. So, what clothes > do I require?". > And thus ended my attempt to offer some clothes (vastram > samarpayaami). Confined to offering only mouli during puja (vastra > samarpan), and no real_cloth in person. nice to learn about your experience.It would be nice if people would post such experiences > > Everyone: Pl. tell me if there are any more pending actions on me. > ill let u know later love Jai Gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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