Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 JAI GURUDEV Hi all... Today, a gurubhai sent me this mail. ######################################## I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram site that vayu diksha makes you as light as air. So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, or does it mean your body remains light for ever? Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. It says it gives you the extraordinary powers of Lord Shiva. So my question is what kinds of powers does it give? ####################################### And, based on my limited knowledge, my answer was: ####################################### First thing first. I haven't taken any of these dikshas, so whatever I tell you won't be based on experience. > I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram site > that vayu diksha makes you as light as air. > So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, or > does it mean your body remains light for ever? It means just that, I guess. According to Bade Guruji's pravachan given on 1st Jan. '96 at the Rajyog Diksha Samaroh, you may attain the power to make yourself as light as air and then back to normal at will albeit you perform the specific sadhana properly and completely. You must follow all rules strictly. > Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. > It says it gives you the extraordinary powers of > Lord Shiva. Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of this diksha. > So my question is what kinds of powers does it give? Any diksha, if taken with complete faith and followed by proper sadhana, can give you multiple powers based on your requirements. But, only taking any diksha won't make any difference. Diksha only make you eligible to perform any sadhana and increases your chances of success by making thing favourable. Still, you'll have to perform that sadhana. Sadhanas for powers such as being as light as air, are very very tough, almost impossible and take years of hard work. So, if you are thinking that if you take any diksha, some miracle would happen and you'll instantly gain access to these otherwise impossible powers, I would discourage you to take any diksha. Because such things happen only in movies, not in real life. If this is not the case, then go ahead, take the diksha and perform the sadhana with devotion and faith. You'll surely be successful. ####################################### Since this is a very important issue, I am forwarding these here so that we can discuss it and try to find an answer. Everyone, please participate. Thanks and have a nice day. Ashish Marathe Check out Shopping and Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at or bid at http://auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2001 Report Share Posted December 11, 2001 JAI GURUDEV Hi all... Today, a gurubhai sent me this mail. ######################################## I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram site that vayu diksha makes you as light as air. So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, or does it mean your body remains light for ever? Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. It says it gives you the extraordinary powers of Lord Shiva. So my question is what kinds of powers does it give? ####################################### And, based on my limited knowledge, my answer was: ####################################### First thing first. I haven't taken any of these dikshas, so whatever I tell you won't be based on experience. > I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram site > that vayu diksha makes you as light as air. > So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, or > does it mean your body remains light for ever? It means just that, I guess. According to Bade Guruji's pravachan given on 1st Jan. '96 at the Rajyog Diksha Samaroh, you may attain the power to make yourself as light as air and then back to normal at will albeit you perform the specific sadhana properly and completely. You must follow all rules strictly. > Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. > It says it gives you the extraordinary powers of > Lord Shiva. Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of this diksha. > So my question is what kinds of powers does it give? Any diksha, if taken with complete faith and followed by proper sadhana, can give you multiple powers based on your requirements. But, only taking any diksha won't make any difference. Diksha only make you eligible to perform any sadhana and increases your chances of success by making thing favourable. Still, you'll have to perform that sadhana. Sadhanas for powers such as being as light as air, are very very tough, almost impossible and take years of hard work. So, if you are thinking that if you take any diksha, some miracle would happen and you'll instantly gain access to these otherwise impossible powers, I would discourage you to take any diksha. Because such things happen only in movies, not in real life. If this is not the case, then go ahead, take the diksha and perform the sadhana with devotion and faith. You'll surely be successful. ####################################### Since this is a very important issue, I am forwarding these here so that we can discuss it and try to find an answer. Everyone, please participate. Thanks and have a nice day. Ashish Marathe Check out Shopping and Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at or bid at http://auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2001 Report Share Posted December 11, 2001 Jai Gurudev, >From the books of Guruji there is enough evidence that one can fly. Yup! there is a difference between light being able to fly. Being light can mean that antigravity is created in one due to which person's body is less attracted due to gravity and hence the person feels light. Flying in air can be the result of being lighter or will become possible when one gains more control over gravity. There are some shishyas of Guruji who have had crude experiences of something like flying in air. Some can control gravity with perfection. Success will be there just out of love and whole and true hearted devotion towards Pujya Gurudev. Even without doing sadhana or getting diksha succeess can is there is whole hearted devotion. Without love and devotion towards him i think one will not get success even if one repeats sadhana 10,000 times. Jai Gurudev > >Ashish Marathe [nikhilashish] >Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:22 AM > > Fwd: Vayu Diksha > > >JAI GURUDEV >Hi all... > >Today, a gurubhai sent me this mail. > >######################################## >I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram site >that vayu diksha makes you as light as air. >So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, or >does it mean your body remains light for ever? > >Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. >It says it gives you the extraordinary powers of >Lord Shiva. > >So my question is what kinds of powers does it give? >####################################### > >And, based on my limited knowledge, my answer was: > >####################################### > >First thing first. I haven't taken any of these >dikshas, so whatever I tell you won't be based on >experience. > >> I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram site >> that vayu diksha makes you as light as air. >> So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, or >> does it mean your body remains light for ever? > >It means just that, I guess. According to Bade >Guruji's pravachan given on 1st Jan. '96 at the Rajyog >Diksha Samaroh, you may attain the power to make >yourself as light as air and then back to normal at >will albeit you perform the specific sadhana properly >and completely. You must follow all rules strictly. > >> Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. >> It says it gives you the extraordinary powers of >> Lord Shiva. > >Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of this diksha. > >> So my question is what kinds of powers does it give? > >Any diksha, if taken with complete faith and followed >by proper sadhana, can give you multiple powers based >on your requirements. But, only taking any diksha >won't make any difference. Diksha only make you >eligible to perform any sadhana and increases your >chances of success by making thing favourable. Still, >you'll have to perform that sadhana. Sadhanas for >powers such as being as light as air, are very very >tough, almost impossible and take years of hard work. >So, if you are thinking that if you take any diksha, >some miracle would happen and you'll instantly gain >access to these otherwise impossible powers, I would >discourage you to take any diksha. Because such things >happen only in movies, not in real life. If this is >not the case, then go ahead, take the diksha and >perform the sadhana with devotion and faith. You'll >surely be successful. > >####################################### > >Since this is a very important issue, I am forwarding >these here so that we can discuss it and try to find >an answer. Everyone, please participate. > >Thanks and have a nice day. > >Ashish Marathe > > > >Check out Shopping and Auctions for all of >your unique holiday gifts! Buy at >or bid at http://auctions. > > >------------------------ Sponsor >---------------------~--> >Break free. Great >American Smokeout >http://us.click./3vN8tD/.pSDAA/ySSFAA/wpWolB/TM >------------------------------ >------~-> > >Jay Gurudev > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 JAI GURUDEVHi all... Regarding Viyu Diksha the concept is our body is made up of 5 "Tatvas'(Panch Tatva) Among them one is "Vayu" By doing the Sadhana you can skip or ignore "Vayu Tatva" So your Body will be of 4 "Tatvas" Which is not an Ordinary Stage For more information Please Listen to Chandigadh Guru Pornima Shivir Cassates Gurudev has given explaination regarding "Vayu Tatva" Jai Gurudev Shailesh dixblr - Ashish Marathe Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:48 PM FWD: Vayu Diksha JAI GURUDEVHi all...Today, a gurubhai sent me this mail.########################################I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram sitethat vayu diksha makes you as light as air.So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, ordoes it mean your body remains light for ever?Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. It says it gives you the extraordinary powers ofLord Shiva.So my question is what kinds of powers does it give?#######################################And, based on my limited knowledge, my answer was:#######################################First thing first. I haven't taken any of thesedikshas, so whatever I tell you won't be based onexperience.> I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram site> that vayu diksha makes you as light as air.> So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, or> does it mean your body remains light for ever?It means just that, I guess. According to BadeGuruji's pravachan given on 1st Jan. '96 at the RajyogDiksha Samaroh, you may attain the power to makeyourself as light as air and then back to normal atwill albeit you perform the specific sadhana properlyand completely. You must follow all rules strictly.> Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. > It says it gives you the extraordinary powers of> Lord Shiva.Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of this diksha.> So my question is what kinds of powers does it give?Any diksha, if taken with complete faith and followedby proper sadhana, can give you multiple powers basedon your requirements. But, only taking any dikshawon't make any difference. Diksha only make youeligible to perform any sadhana and increases yourchances of success by making thing favourable. Still,you'll have to perform that sadhana. Sadhanas forpowers such as being as light as air, are very verytough, almost impossible and take years of hard work.So, if you are thinking that if you take any diksha,some miracle would happen and you'll instantly gainaccess to these otherwise impossible powers, I woulddiscourage you to take any diksha. Because such thingshappen only in movies, not in real life. If this isnot the case, then go ahead, take the diksha andperform the sadhana with devotion and faith. You'llsurely be successful.#######################################Since this is a very important issue, I am forwardingthese here so that we can discuss it and try to findan answer. Everyone, please participate.Thanks and have a nice day.Ashish MaratheDo You ?Check out Shopping and Auctions for all ofyour unique holiday gifts! Buy at or bid at http://auctions.Jay GurudevYour use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Jai Gurudev > Being light can mean that antigravity is created in one due to which > person's body is less > attracted due to gravity and hence the person feels light. Flying in air can > be the result of being lighter or will become possible when one gains more > control over gravity. So how exactly does one gain control over gravity? and you did not answer the following questions about the Divya Drishti Sadhna. If you know the answers, please be kind and provide me with them. How is it performed? Does accomplishinig this mean you will be able to see anything that happened in the past? What about hearing, would you be able to hear anything that happened in the past alos? Jai Gurudeva, Kashyap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 Dear Gurbhais, All the Dikshas given by Guruji are very very powerful. It only depends upon the Sadhak how much powerful he is. According to the Rule of Science, water would boil at 100 Degrees Centigrade, it will not boil at 99. Now compare this with the ability of a Sadhak. Whether he has reached that particular level. By repeatedly taking Dikshas & repeatedly doing Sadhanas a Sadhak would achieve strength and perfection. Ramakrishna Paramhansa achieved perfection & got Darshan of Maha Kali Sadhana at the 18th time. After completing 17th time the Sadhana he did not achieve success. The success was achieve only at the 18th instance. Nobody is discouraging anyone for taking the Diksha. You have to take that Diksha and start doing the Sadhana & one day would surely achieve. Now how fast would you achieve it depends upon: (1) Your previous Karma. (Good or Bad health, Favourable or Unfavourable Circumstances, Helping or Unhelping Company of Wife, Family & Friends), etc., etc. (2) Your ability & strength to fight against your Karma. (3) Your instrument for Sadhana (It means how you are going to do that Sadhana, by what way) Best way to determine is from Guru only because Guru only knows your plus or minus points). (4) How much time you put or alot for that particular Sadhana. (5) Your integrity or Shraddha. (There will be many occasions where you would lose faith in God & Guru). Remember, even if you have no or less faith, I would tell you that Guruji is equally powerful not only to Give you Diksha but to give you success. Not even Guruji this is true for all the Shishyas of Swami Nikhileshwaraandji. This is not my Shraddha, Faith or Belief but it is a Sanaatan Truth which you have to understand. So first think thousand times before going to Guru but after taking the shelter from Guru, Guru will think for you. You have to perform only Sadhana. You have to become Sadhak then to become a Yogi then to become a ParamHans Yogi to enter into Siddhashram. Remember you are the Bhageerath, you are the Arjun. You could do it because you are HUMAN. Jai Gurudev, Pradip Merchant. - Shailesh S. D. Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:07 AM Re: FWD: Vayu Diksha JAI GURUDEVHi all... Regarding Viyu Diksha the concept is our body is made up of 5 "Tatvas'(Panch Tatva) Among them one is "Vayu" By doing the Sadhana you can skip or ignore "Vayu Tatva" So your Body will be of 4 "Tatvas" Which is not an Ordinary Stage For more information Please Listen to Chandigadh Guru Pornima Shivir Cassates Gurudev has given explaination regarding "Vayu Tatva" Jai Gurudev Shailesh dixblr - Ashish Marathe Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:48 PM FWD: Vayu Diksha JAI GURUDEVHi all...Today, a gurubhai sent me this mail.########################################I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram sitethat vayu diksha makes you as light as air.So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, ordoes it mean your body remains light for ever?Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. It says it gives you the extraordinary powers ofLord Shiva.So my question is what kinds of powers does it give?#######################################And, based on my limited knowledge, my answer was:#######################################First thing first. I haven't taken any of thesedikshas, so whatever I tell you won't be based onexperience.> I read on the diksha page of the siddhashram site> that vayu diksha makes you as light as air.> So, does this mean you gain the power of flying, or> does it mean your body remains light for ever?It means just that, I guess. According to BadeGuruji's pravachan given on 1st Jan. '96 at the RajyogDiksha Samaroh, you may attain the power to makeyourself as light as air and then back to normal atwill albeit you perform the specific sadhana properlyand completely. You must follow all rules strictly.> Also, I read about Shatopanthi diksha. > It says it gives you the extraordinary powers of> Lord Shiva.Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of this diksha.> So my question is what kinds of powers does it give?Any diksha, if taken with complete faith and followedby proper sadhana, can give you multiple powers basedon your requirements. But, only taking any dikshawon't make any difference. Diksha only make youeligible to perform any sadhana and increases yourchances of success by making thing favourable. Still,you'll have to perform that sadhana. Sadhanas forpowers such as being as light as air, are very verytough, almost impossible and take years of hard work.So, if you are thinking that if you take any diksha,some miracle would happen and you'll instantly gainaccess to these otherwise impossible powers, I woulddiscourage you to take any diksha. Because such thingshappen only in movies, not in real life. If this isnot the case, then go ahead, take the diksha andperform the sadhana with devotion and faith. You'llsurely be successful.#######################################Since this is a very important issue, I am forwardingthese here so that we can discuss it and try to findan answer. Everyone, please participate.Thanks and have a nice day.Ashish Marathe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 >So how exactly does one gain control over gravity? You want a spiritual answer or a scientific answer. > > >and you did not answer the following questions about the Divya >Drishti Sadhna. >If you know the answers, please be kind and provide me with them. > > >How is it performed? How have to do a sadhana or take dikshaa from Pujya Gurudev and then perform the sadhana. > >Does accomplishinig this mean you will be able to see anything that >happened in the past? > >What about hearing, would you be able to hear anything that happened >in the past alos? Yup! all this can be done but i think the depth of penetration in to the time depends on different sadhanas. i think one may have to do different sadhanas depending on the depth which one wants to penetrate. I suggest you to read "Tantrik Siddhiyan" by Pujya Gurudev. "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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