Guest guest Posted December 25, 2001 Report Share Posted December 25, 2001 Jai Gurudev I want to share with you all about what i have come to realize about spirituality. I have always believed in analyzing everything scientifically.. I was asking questions to myself.. Who is Vishnu? Who is Shiva? Where are they? Why are they? Why is it that in the hindu mythology, it is only shiva who gives maximum boons to everybody and after each boon, it is vishnu who comes in one of his "avatar" to destroy the person who recieves the boon? Where is the balancing factor? After a lot of pondering, me and my wife came to this conclusion: Vishnu is everywhere. he is our feelings, our emotions, life. So he is known as the creator. He is present in each of us in varying degrees. Shiva is the concentrated form of vishnu. he is an energy form who is so nutral, that none can touch him.. he is very intense in his nutrality. to explain this in a better manner: Vishnu can be considered as the sun. the magnitude of each ray of the sun is equal. When the sun rays reaches earth, it is spread everywhere equally with equal intensity. These rrays cannot burn us because the heat is comfortable, and not scorching.. like the life around us, like the feelings around and within us. If we focus the sun light to onepoint, with the lense, it immediately burns anything which comes at the concentrated centre of the point. This point is shiva. So shiva is the concentrated form of vishnu, who is present everywhere like the sun light. Each one of us has vishnu and shiva within us. Surrendering to a guru is to become shiva or in other words, a nutral or a big zero. We can achieve this only if we can concentrate our soul to focus the vishnu within us to expose shiva. Shiva is so powerful, that at his nutrality, he is the most powerful god. He is the concentration of energy.. thus all the boons were asked from him. No one even thinks about vishnu to give a boon as they dont know his essence. Let me put it this way: Vishnu is everywhere. so he can be considered as free particles in and around us. these free particles can be considered as a "+" or a "-" (these are not to be considered as good and evil as one mans food is another mans posion). Shiva is the concentrated combination of "+" and "-" which is "0". He is so nutral, that he maintains the "0" factor at all times and at all costs. He cannot loose the nutrality in anyway. All of us are also a combination of these "+" and "-" in us. when we ask for a boon from shiva, he releases one of his "+" or "-" to us, and gives us the boon. Once we get these extra "+" or "-", we become powerful as our balance of these "+" or "-" gets oriented to either a + or a - (it is not to be considered as a good or evil as mentioned earlier). If our ego comes in the way, then this orientation can then be used to do what ever a man wishes. If the deed of the man is of a selfish nature, then he must be nutralized. For which shiva need not do anything. When he gives a boon (say "+") to the person, then he also releases an anti boon (say"-") so that he remains nutral in the process. As these "+" or "-" is a part of vishnu, the man ultimately gets nutralized by these. Shiva cannot and will not interfere in this as he is a nutral factor.. the free radicles of vishnu will do the job of nutralizing the man. So each boon has always been counter acted by an opposite of it. Vishnu is in shiva and shiva is in vishnu. This is the solution I could think of about the energies known as Vishnu and Shiva. All of us can attain shiva or Sharanagati only if we understand shiva. The balance is always there in the universe, it is only that we dont see it. Everyaction has an equal and opposite reaction. This applies to these great energies also. The same concept can be derived from the structure of the atom also. The atom has a center known as a nucleus and surrounded by electrons. Each electron has is own orbit. Our soul is like these electron.. moving in our own orbit. The electron jumps the orbit when it looses energy, and moves closer to the nucleus. When we loose our ego, and our other material feelings, we move closer to our "self" or our nutrality or "shiva". We have to learn to get this art of loosing our egos to move closer to the self. What we are still not clear about is this: If we are vishnu and we are shiva, then why have we been born? Is it a mandatory factor to be born everytime to take births after births (I am yet to believe in this re-birth concept as I am not convinced about why we are born) to get closer to our soul center or sharanagati? Why should we be born in the first place? Cant we achieve the completeness with out being born? What is religion? why should it be there? Why were the GITA, BIBLE, and the QURAN written? why should we follow those as the books of our religion? Which religion do the animals follow? What religion do native tribals of the african jungle follow? They dont have books. why should the concept of a religion exist? For a pure soul, does religion matter? do these holy books matter? Why should we be born???????? Please send me your comments on these. Jai Gurudev Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 JAI GURUDEV Hello there... > I have always believed in analyzing everything > scientifically. Scientific analysis requires intense knowledge of science and the concerned subject. > I was asking questions to myself.. > Who is Vishnu? Who is Shiva? Why are they? Have you considered asking yourself; "Who am I?", "Why am I?"? Also, why limit our thoughts to only Vishnu and Shiv? What about Bramha? What about mother Bhuvaneshwari? > Why is it that in the hindu mythology, it is only > shiva who gives maximum boons to everybody > and after each boon, it is vishnu who comes in > one of his "avatar" to destroy the person who > recieves the boon? In Hindu Mythology, you'll find incidents where each one of Bramha, Vishnu, Shiv has given maximum boon to someone. Moreover, Vishnu never took his "avatar" to destroy someone who received boon.He took his "avatar" to guide humans, give them knowledge and destroy those who had misused their powers. There are many other incidents where Shiv and Bramha took "avatar". > Vishnu is everywhere. he is our feelings, our > emotions, life. So he is known as the creator. According to Hindu Mythology; Bramha is the creator, Vishnu is the operator and Shiv is the destroyer. > Shiva is the concentrated form of vishnu. Bramha, Vishnu and Shiv are three separate entities. They are not concentrated or diluted forms of each other. After all, they are Gods not chemicals. > he is an energy form who is so nutral, > that none can touch him. Scientifically, you can touch neutral things. Everything tends to become neutral that's why we find compounds rather easily than elements. > he is very intense in his nutrality. Intensity is not a feature of neutrality. Simple science > Vishnu can be considered as the sun. According to Hindu Mythology, Vishnu and Sun are different. > the magnitude of each ray of the sun is equal. > When the sun rays reaches earth, it is spread > everywhere equally with equal intensity. Then, why do we have diverse places like the two poles and Sahara desert? > These rrays cannot burn us because the heat > is comfortable, and not scorching. Have you ever heard of Sun Burns, deaths due to heat waves and sun screen lotions? Have you ever been to a desert? Scientific analysis should be universally applicable. > like the feelings around and within us. Scientifically; feelings, emotions, touch, smell, pain, hunger etc. are all electro-magnetic pulses interpreted by our brain. > If we focus the sun light to onepoint, with the > lense, it immediately burns anything which comes > at the concentrated centre of the point. Try focussing the sun light on a rock. > So shiva is the concentrated form of vishnu, who > is present everywhere like the sun light. Then, what about nights when we don't have sun light around us? Are you saying that Gods are effective only during the day and that too, in broad daylight and not in rainy season? > No one even thinks about vishnu to give a > boon as they dont know his essence. If no one thinks about Vishnu, then what about those two little kids, Prahllad and Dhruv? What about Tulsi? Also, why do we perform Satya Narayan Pujan. Also, in Kanakdhara Strotra, godess Mahalaxmi is worshiped as Vishnu-Patni. Kanakdhara Strotra is recited in front of a Shaligram, a form of Vishnu. Your name suggests that you are a south indian. Ever been to Tirupati? > when we ask for a boon from shiva, he releases > one of his "+" or "-" to us, and gives us the boon. > Once we get these extra "+" or "-", we become > powerful as our balance of these "+" or "-" gets > oriented to either a + or a - According to our Guruji, Dr. Narayan Dutt Shrimali, we are born as "Shav" (corpse) and we must become "Shiv" (alive, complete). According to you we are neutral and neutral is Shiv. Then, why Shiv makes us +ve or -ve when we are already what we must become? > Vishnu is in shiva and shiva is in vishnu. But, where are you? > All of us can attain shiva or Sharanagati only > if we understand shiva. I am sure, you don't know the meaning of "Sharanagati". > The atom has a center known as a nucleus > and surrounded by electrons. And, what about Photons, Neutrons, Positrons, Neutrinos etc.? > Each electron has is own orbit. Our soul is like > these electron.. moving in our own orbit. > The electron jumps the orbit when it looses > energy, and moves closer to the nucleus. > When we loose our ego, and our other material > feelings, we move closer to our "self" or our > nutrality or "shiva". According to my Guruji, we are incomplete / Shav / Corpse because we do not have enough energy to be closer to ourself or Shiv and we gain this energy by sadhanas to become complete. Thus, if we consider your electron theory, we and electrons are totally opposite. > If we are vishnu and we are shiva, then why > have we been born? We are born because we are not Vishnu or Shiv. Only the time of our birth and death has been predetermined. For everything else (our karm which decides whether we would be re-born) we are given a brain and a concious. Our sole purpose, for all births, is to become complete. Once we attain the objective, we are not reborn. > What religion do native tribals of the african > jungle follow? They dont have books. why > should the concept of a religion exist? Hindu Religion existed long before Gita was conceived. Gita, Vedas or any other holy book is not religion. They simply help someone follow a religion. Sorry friend, your "scientific" theory has many flaws. Maybe, you should study things more with a universal perspective. Look for your answers inside yourself rather than looking outside. Try performing any sadhana. Have a nice day. 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Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 Jai bhavaani! Dear Sir, I am not anybody to answer on Shri Gurudev-ji's behalf. But I see that your mindset has come out of the Western belief system. Keep in mind that "Shiva" or "Vishnu" or the deities that Hinduism upholds are DIVINITIES. We people with our materialistic outlook look at the LABELS and we look upon DIVINITY as a material thing. This is a total mistake. First, when we speak of divinity we are TALKING ABOUT THE INFINITE, ABSOLUTE, INDESCRIBABLE GLORY OF GOD. His attributes are infinite. His beauty is infinite. His glory is endless. When we remember that, then all the *functional* divinities of Hinduism will make perfect sense. For a pure soul, SPIRITUALITY DOES MATTER. The aim of material life is to evolve spiritually. This is the challenge before all people. because God has given us HUMAN souls. And human souls are the highest spirits in nature, and hence are the closest aspect of God in material creation. For the animals, he has given animal spirits. Hence there are grades of SOUL perfectly ordered in nature. Only problem is we don't understand this clearly. WHEN A GURU OR AVATAR TEACHES TO PEOPLE, HE IS PLAYING HIS ROLE - AS A SUPERIOR & EVOLVED SOUL. Keeping this in mind it is easier to understand WHY Shri Ram was what he was (an avatar) , and WHY Shri Krishna was what he was - an avatar... Jai Sai Ram! - S , vijay bhaskar <thesoulstealer> wrote: > Jai Gurudev > > I want to share with you all about what i have come to > realize about spirituality. > > I have always believed in analyzing everything > scientifically.. I was asking questions to myself.. > > Who is Vishnu? > Who is Shiva? > > Where are they? Why are they? > > Why is it that in the hindu mythology, it is only > shiva who gives maximum boons to everybody and after > each boon, it is vishnu who comes in one of his > "avatar" to destroy the person who recieves the boon? > > Where is the balancing factor? > > > After a lot of pondering, me and my wife came to this > conclusion: > > Vishnu is everywhere. he is our feelings, our > emotions, life. So he is known as the creator. He is > present in each of us in varying degrees. > > Shiva is the concentrated form of vishnu. he is an > energy form who is so nutral, that none can touch > him.. he is very intense in his nutrality. > > to explain this in a better manner: > > Vishnu can be considered as the sun. the magnitude of > each ray of the sun is equal. When the sun rays > reaches earth, it is spread everywhere equally with > equal intensity. These rrays cannot burn us because > the heat is comfortable, and not scorching.. like the > life around us, like the feelings around and within > us. > > If we focus the sun light to onepoint, with the lense, > it immediately burns anything which comes at the > concentrated centre of the point. This point is shiva. > > So shiva is the concentrated form of vishnu, who is > present everywhere like the sun light. > > Each one of us has vishnu and shiva within us. > Surrendering to a guru is to become shiva or in other > words, a nutral or a big zero. We can achieve this > only if we can concentrate our soul to focus the > vishnu within us to expose shiva. > > Shiva is so powerful, that at his nutrality, he is the > most powerful god. He is the concentration of energy.. > thus all the boons were asked from him. No one even > thinks about vishnu to give a boon as they dont know > his essence. > > Let me put it this way: > > Vishnu is everywhere. so he can be considered as free > particles in and around us. these free particles can > be considered as a "+" or a "-" (these are not to be > considered as good and evil as one mans food is > another mans posion). > > Shiva is the concentrated combination of "+" and "-" > which is "0". > > He is so nutral, that he maintains the "0" factor at > all times and at all costs. He cannot loose the > nutrality in anyway. > > All of us are also a combination of these "+" and "-" > in us. when we ask for a boon from shiva, he releases > one of his "+" or "-" to us, and gives us the boon. > > Once we get these extra "+" or "-", we become powerful > as our balance of these "+" or "-" gets oriented to > either a + or a - (it is not to be considered as a > good or evil as mentioned earlier). > > If our ego comes in the way, then this orientation can > then be used to do what ever a man wishes. > > If the deed of the man is of a selfish nature, then he > must be nutralized. For which shiva need not do > anything. When he gives a boon (say "+") to the > person, then he also releases an anti boon (say"-") so > that he remains nutral in the process. As these "+" or > "-" is a part of vishnu, the man ultimately gets > nutralized by these. Shiva cannot and will not > interfere in this as he is a nutral factor.. the free > radicles of vishnu will do the job of nutralizing the > man. > > So each boon has always been counter acted by an > opposite of it. Vishnu is in shiva and shiva is in > vishnu. > > This is the solution I could think of about the > energies known as Vishnu and Shiva. > > All of us can attain shiva or Sharanagati only if we > understand shiva. > > The balance is always there in the universe, it is > only that we dont see it. Everyaction has an equal and > opposite reaction. This applies to these great > energies also. > > The same concept can be derived from the structure of > the atom also. > > The atom has a center known as a nucleus and > surrounded by electrons. Each electron has is own > orbit. > > Our soul is like these electron.. moving in our own > orbit. > > The electron jumps the orbit when it looses energy, > and moves closer to the nucleus. > > When we loose our ego, and our other material > feelings, we move closer to our "self" or our > nutrality or "shiva". > > We have to learn to get this art of loosing our egos > to move closer to the self. > > What we are still not clear about is this: > > If we are vishnu and we are shiva, then why have we > been born? Is it a mandatory factor to be born > everytime to take births after births (I am yet to > believe in this re-birth concept as I am not convinced > about why we are born) to get closer to our soul > center or sharanagati? > > Why should we be born in the first place? > Cant we achieve the completeness with out being born? > > What is religion? why should it be there? Why were the > GITA, BIBLE, and the QURAN written? why should we > follow those as the books of our religion? > > Which religion do the animals follow? > > What religion do native tribals of the african jungle > follow? They dont have books. why should the concept > of a religion exist? > > For a pure soul, does religion matter? do these holy > books matter? > Why should we be born???????? > > Please send me your comments on these. > > Jai Gurudev > > > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 - jai gurudev, do read http://www.sambavi.com/Sri%20Vidya/DashaMahaVidyas.html it is a different explanation from the usual. however, a note of caution to all new comers, do not fool around with mahavidya sadhnas.. i learnt the lesson the hard way. do make sure that you have been chanting guru mantra every single day for atleast 6 months before you try any. and i suggest starting with bhuvaneshwari or mahakali where broken sankalps and mistakes are forgiven. .. > > I have always believed in analyzing everything > scientifically.. I was asking questions to myself.. > good wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 >Jai Gurudev > >I want to share with you all about what i have come to >realize about spirituality. > >I have always believed in analyzing everything >scientifically.. I was asking questions to myself.. > >Who is Vishnu? >Who is Shiva? > >Where are they? Why are they? > >Why is it that in the hindu mythology, it is only >shiva who gives maximum boons to everybody and after >each boon, it is vishnu who comes in one of his >"avatar" to destroy the person who recieves the boon? > >Where is the balancing factor? > > >After a lot of pondering, me and my wife came to this >conclusion: > >Vishnu is everywhere. he is our feelings, our >emotions, life. So he is known as the creator. He is >present in each of us in varying degrees. > >Shiva is the concentrated form of vishnu. he is an >energy form who is so nutral, that none can touch >him.. he is very intense in his nutrality. > >to explain this in a better manner: > >Vishnu can be considered as the sun. the magnitude of >each ray of the sun is equal. When the sun rays >reaches earth, it is spread everywhere equally with >equal intensity. These rrays cannot burn us because >the heat is comfortable, and not scorching.. like the >life around us, like the feelings around and within >us. > >If we focus the sun light to onepoint, with the lense, >it immediately burns anything which comes at the >concentrated centre of the point. This point is shiva. > >So shiva is the concentrated form of vishnu, who is >present everywhere like the sun light. > >Each one of us has vishnu and shiva within us. >Surrendering to a guru is to become shiva or in other >words, a nutral or a big zero. We can achieve this >only if we can concentrate our soul to focus the >vishnu within us to expose shiva. > >Shiva is so powerful, that at his nutrality, he is the >most powerful god. He is the concentration of energy.. >thus all the boons were asked from him. No one even >thinks about vishnu to give a boon as they dont know >his essence. > >Let me put it this way: > >Vishnu is everywhere. so he can be considered as free >particles in and around us. these free particles can >be considered as a "+" or a "-" (these are not to be >considered as good and evil as one mans food is >another mans posion). > >Shiva is the concentrated combination of "+" and "-" >which is "0". > >He is so nutral, that he maintains the "0" factor at >all times and at all costs. He cannot loose the >nutrality in anyway. > >All of us are also a combination of these "+" and "-" >in us. when we ask for a boon from shiva, he releases >one of his "+" or "-" to us, and gives us the boon. > >Once we get these extra "+" or "-", we become powerful >as our balance of these "+" or "-" gets oriented to >either a + or a - (it is not to be considered as a >good or evil as mentioned earlier). > >If our ego comes in the way, then this orientation can >then be used to do what ever a man wishes. > >If the deed of the man is of a selfish nature, then he >must be nutralized. For which shiva need not do >anything. When he gives a boon (say "+") to the >person, then he also releases an anti boon (say"-") so >that he remains nutral in the process. As these "+" or >"-" is a part of vishnu, the man ultimately gets >nutralized by these. Shiva cannot and will not >interfere in this as he is a nutral factor.. the free >radicles of vishnu will do the job of nutralizing the >man. > >So each boon has always been counter acted by an >opposite of it. Vishnu is in shiva and shiva is in >vishnu. > >This is the solution I could think of about the >energies known as Vishnu and Shiva. > >All of us can attain shiva or Sharanagati only if we >understand shiva. > >The balance is always there in the universe, it is >only that we dont see it. Everyaction has an equal and >opposite reaction. This applies to these great >energies also. > >The same concept can be derived from the structure of >the atom also. > >The atom has a center known as a nucleus and >surrounded by electrons. Each electron has is own >orbit. > >Our soul is like these electron.. moving in our own >orbit. > >The electron jumps the orbit when it looses energy, >and moves closer to the nucleus. > >When we loose our ego, and our other material >feelings, we move closer to our "self" or our >nutrality or "shiva". > >We have to learn to get this art of loosing our egos >to move closer to the self. > >What we are still not clear about is this: > >If we are vishnu and we are shiva, then why have we >been born? Is it a mandatory factor to be born >everytime to take births after births (I am yet to >believe in this re-birth concept as I am not convinced >about why we are born) to get closer to our soul >center or sharanagati? > >Why should we be born in the first place? >Cant we achieve the completeness with out being born? > >What is religion? why should it be there? Why were the >GITA, BIBLE, and the QURAN written? why should we >follow those as the books of our religion? > >Which religion do the animals follow? > >What religion do native tribals of the african jungle >follow? They dont have books. why should the concept >of a religion exist? > >For a pure soul, does religion matter? do these holy >books matter? >Why should we be born???????? > >Please send me your comments on these. > >Jai Gurudev > > > >Send your FREE holiday greetings online! >http://greetings. > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 --- nikhilashish <nikhilashish wrote: > JAI GURUDEV > Hello there... > > > I have always believed in analyzing everything > > scientifically. The scientific approach is to first to observe if a specified approach leads to a foreknown result. Do scientists know much about their subjects- their knowledge is purely empirical. Consider Newton's law of gravitation; it has an exact and mathematical relationship that can be verified by experiment. But the very formulation of the rule was based on observation in the first place and not on knowledge inferred beforehand. Also consider Einstein's statement(who had excellant samyama skills) that after 50 years of pondering about light, he still does not have any clue as to what photons are; if this comes from Einstein, then rest assured that nobody else has any clue about the properties of light. Science is only a reflection of certain physical laws; these physical laws are a small portion of a larger set of laws called metaphysical laws. Metaphysical laws are what permit the saint to perform so called miracles and he can bypass the lower physical laws. So analyzing anything scientifically has the problem of not taking you beyond your own comprehension which may or may not be limited. All the major scientific discoveries were by a process of creative insight(numerous examples abound) that did not involve thinking in words. The true scientist has inspiration from the lower regions of the superconscious mind but the saint has a revelation from the higher regions of the superconscious mind. > > members of this list are not interested in self Two of the paths to the self are Vaidika and Tantrika-in the vaidika path there is clear delineation between karma kanda and jnana kanda meaning living in the world and working to self realistion. But the tantrika path both are one and the same; afterall this manifested world is nothing but a play of the divine mother. So in a sense living in the world and enjoying it are also a path to the self without self-tortury and asceticism. > > In Hindu Mythology, you'll find incidents where each > one of Bramha, > Vishnu, Shiv has given maximum boon to someone. > Moreover, Vishnu > never took his "avatar" to destroy someone who > received boon.He took > his "avatar" to guide humans, give them knowledge > and destroy those > who had misused their powers. There are many other > incidents where > Shiv and Bramha took "avatar". > > > Vishnu is everywhere. he is our feelings, our > > emotions, life. So he is known as the creator. > > According to Hindu Mythology; Bramha is the creator, > Vishnu is the > operator and Shiv is the destroyer. > > > Shiva is the concentrated form of vishnu. Your observation is a very profound observation. In the Lahiri lineage of kriya yoga, where one gets different kriyas as he advances, in the third kriya when he is able to conciously reach a breathless state(BTW the state of prologed breathless for several hours has been shown in the laboratory a number of times, any scientific explanation for that??) he comes face to face with Lord Visnu. When he gets to the fourth kriya, he comes face to face with Siva. Also in hatha yoga, an aspirant passes through the Brahma granthi(lower chakras along the spine), then through the Visnu Granthi(middle chakras) and then finally reaches Sadasiva in the Rudra granthi(upper chakras). So in a sense Siva is the distilled essense of Visnu but this attitude is specific to a particular tradition. Several of the Saiva and Vaishnava puranas speak of the unity of Siva and Visnu and they are one and the same. But this knownledge should not something read from books and should be realised by oneself. Till one has got to the unity consciousness of the whole universe with his own self, Siva is Siva and Visnu is Visnu and all the gods are individual entities. The great saint Subramuniya swami(www.gurudeva.org) used to say that 200 years of westernized education made the Indians think that their deities are a only a representation of one Universal god and have no meaning by themself. But the deities are very real and become visible to you once your astral vision is developed as seen by the testimoneis of numerous saints. > > > Vishnu can be considered as the sun. Visnu is in fact worshipped as the sun- this form of Visnu is called Surya-Narayana. The sun in the solar system is only a small manifestion of Surya Narayana. > > > What religion do native tribals of the african > > jungle follow? They dont have books. why > > should the concept of a religion exist? > We are merely children when compared to state that most saints are in. If you have children then, you would regulate their behaviour so that they can blosson into responsible adults. Likewise our parent-saints have imbibed a religious code so that we can grow to adulthood of conciousness. Therefore concept of a religion is to guide man till he know for himself what the mystery of creation is!! Aum Namasivaya, Vijay Pillai > Hindu Religion existed long before Gita was > conceived. Gita, Vedas > or any other holy book is not religion. They simply > help someone > follow a religion. > > Sorry friend, your "scientific" theory has many > flaws. Maybe, you > should study things more with a universal > perspective. Look for your > === message truncated === Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 Namaste! Swami Sivananda in one of his books had precautioned that SriVidya should be learned only from the guru and the aspirant should not practise it on his own. Could you elaborate what the malefic effects were specifically as I myself was thinking of taking this sadhana from Gurudev. Aum Namasivaya Vijay --- devi_bhagat <devi_bhagat wrote: > - > > jai gurudev, > > do read > http://www.sambavi.com/Sri%20Vidya/DashaMahaVidyas.html > > it is a different explanation from the usual. > however, a note of > caution to all new comers, do not fool around with > mahavidya sadhnas.. > > i learnt the lesson the hard way. do make sure that > you have been > chanting guru mantra every single day for atleast 6 > months before you > try any. and i suggest starting with bhuvaneshwari > or mahakali where > broken sankalps and mistakes are forgiven. > . > > > > I have always believed in analyzing everything > > scientifically.. I was asking questions to > myself.. > > > good wishes > > > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2002 Report Share Posted January 3, 2002 , Yoga man <childofdevi> wrote: > Namaste! namaste, jai GURUDEV > > Could you elaborate what the malefic effects were > specifically things in my life went topsy turvy in a totally unexpected manner, and i had/ still have to cope with a lot of stress. as I myself was thinking of taking this > sadhana from Gurudev. > do go ahead, but perhaps start with chanting 4 rounds of guru mantra + 1 chetna + 1 gayatri daily. and try to concentrate your mind chanting whatever mantra appeals you, though i strongly recommend gayarti as and when you can. then, when you feel that you are someone who is regular with his practice (i still am not, my sadhna breaks and starts and breaks and starts, a sign of lack of self control, poor planning or whatever) you can start chanting the shri vidya mantra. why not in april, the coming navratri? that is the best time to start any mahavidya. My personal notion is that with all this talk of if you do not have faith you will not get successs ina 1000 times, how does one develop faith suddenly for a new person as teacher? the best solution is to do start and say honestly that this is experimental, and be sincere and give the chanting time day a few months and see if it gives you result. i also think that people should start with sadhnas of GOD's they have natural devotion for, which may be something you have grown with in the family environment, or may be coming from prev lives. the only thing is that i believe that the first sadhna at least should be started and done not as a prayog but with devotion for a few months if needed until it gives you the desired success in material/spiritual life, and then should be stopped with a proper sankalp for a few days before going to the next. good wishes aum namah shivaya anu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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